posted on Dec, 1 2004 @ 06:21 PM
[QUOTE]I don't think its could be covered up. The governement is strong, but not omnipotent, and with stuff like that happening every month, I just
don't think it'd be possible to keep it that quite. Besides, why cover it up? You are crushing these rebels, better to let them know that they
infact don't stand a chance.[/QUOTE]
The Patriot Act allows for random searches without warrants, random indefinite detainment with no charge, and random surveillance.
Basically, a guy could smash your door down, search your house, tell you you were coming with him, and then tell your mother that she was under
surveillance, and that he had planted cameras throughout the house, and that if she ever tried to tell anyone, the government would find out about it,
and they'd come for her too. Then he'd leave with you, put you in a small jail cell, and you wouldn't be seen again for years.
That's legal. He might not even put the surveillance equipment in - but he can. He can put microphones everywhere, and there isn't piddly you can do
Families can go missing, neighbours can be threatened. Because of the Patriot Act, murder can be committed -and, as the phrase goes- gotten away
This is your world, this is your government, who supposedly works for you. If I were an American, I'd already have gotten a group of friends together
and started trying to incite true revolution, because it is by now obvious that America must be woken up, and must destroy the shackles that are
holding it down.
The Second Part Of My Post!
The Man In Oklahoma!
If what John Titor says happens to be true, well, I think I know his Farmer General. I won't give contact information, for his protection and
well-being, but, I know a guy about 20 or so in Omaha, Nebraska, who has a high IQ, is a community-leader, owns a number of acres that are no longer
farmed, but once were, knows the ins and outs of his guns, is looked up to by everyone he knows as a leader, and actually created a contingency plan
when he was younger about what to do if the government ever got drunk on it's own power.
Before I told him about the whole thing - I asked him, how many people were there that were around as smart as him, within 2-3 years of his age, who
were active in the community, and could be described as farmers, that lived in the Omaha area - he said it's definitely less than 5. So, it sounds
like, if there's gonna be a Farmer General, he's it. I took a moment or two and thought out simple scenarios for the achieve his being the leader of
an American Rebel Army - and I'll put them up here in a moment.
The Great Plan!
My friend, whom I shall now refer to as the General From Omaha, of GO, would be driving along in the country (as he actually does regularly, because
he loves the outdoors and the country as opposed to the city he lives in) and he would then see a black unmarked van parked out front of a house with
people who he knew - and the situation would not feel right.
He'd pull over, get out, see the husband being pulled into a van, then the van would pull away, and he'd run in to find the rest of the family
huddled together, he'd learn that the father of the family had just been taken for no apparent reason, and then he'd help them, and he'd tell
people and he'd decide to go trouble trouble.
He'd get a weapon, and then he'd go driving around looking for more black vans, and sure enough find one, and he'd impede the arrest. From this, he
would continue to go out and look for people, only, with larger and larger groups, and this would spread. Those he saved would think of him as the
leader of their group, those they saved would simply be referred to him.
Similar movements would take place across the country - but those in coastal areas would move inland, finding an already large group that knows the
area, with this GO as the leader. These new groups would now have a more powerful backing and would continue to spread outward, absorbing smaller
groups when they came into contact. There would be losses, but overall, the group would simply continue to grow. Eventually, it would be a sizeable
force, numbering in the thousands or tens of thousands, and the GO would realise that he was no longer saving individual farmers from wrongful arrest
- he was now, in a way, commanding an army.
This army would continue it's work and try to make it's voice heard, living chiefly away from the cities, and eventually, the American Government
would be forced to realise that this was an enemy that needed to be dealt with, and the civil war would be begun. I think that this is something that
could happen by 2008, though perhaps on a smaller scale. It could be full-swing in 6 years, before 2010.
Of course, it isn't like this is how it 'has to happen', this is just something that I thought of, that interestingly corresponded to my friend's
long-ago thought up contingency plan. If Titor's future happens, this is one of many scenarios, and is likely quite flawed, but is a possibility.
Just last week, I was thinking about this.
If you managed, somehow, to put two black holes right beside each other, then there is a possibility that their mass would curve spacetime in such a
way that there would be no point of infinite density. That they would manage to hold open a spacetime hole seems to be the consequence - my physics
teacher said "Well, maybe, but if you're going to just break the laws of physics and hold those two objects apart somehow, then, you might as well
just break the laws of physics and pass the light barrier."
-- I think it could be done with superconductors, that's why I'm still trying to work this out, but it would seem like his dual singularity idea has
a tiny bit of a possibility. If we can be clever enough to find loopholes around this, then John Titor's time-travel/universe-travel device could be
feasible. We'll have to see - if my friend is the farmer general, he'll likely be one of the first to hear about a rebellion.
[edit on 1-12-2004 by Viendin]