Aliens are taking over the Planet Earth

reply to post by Dragonfly79


I'm replying after seeing some of those Conspiracy Archives and Alien files (offshoot of the Ancient Alien babe), and feeling very frustrated on how the media distorts things... Even simple common ground interpretations in regards to what a Conspiracy is (how one is identified as such) and moves everything into the field of crazy speculation and promotes idiots...

It's only natural to view unknown things as such at first.

Yup in part I agree but that is old mentality, today we have in large part already open our eyes that even here in this spec of dust government as we know it does not represent us but itself (and its clique). That government has no other aspiration to preserve the status quo and so any action taken is done only in the benefit of its goals, catering to its vested interests and members. This is how NASA, the Apollo and even the shuttle program came about ...

A single point of contact with whatever species is the oldest

I do not think that we could make that inference, oldest is a time comparison referential Being oldest does not equate to be the most vast or technologically capable in fact, the most slow moving society would probably get that definition in a multitude of candidates.

I don't think such an old civilization would have individuals who would need a government but they might establish indirect contact through younger civilizations with governments as they would better understand eachother and would make an easier contact

Due to the complexity required I would tend to agree that if spread across vast spaces a central government would be extremely pressed to maintain control. Even if we look how it goes here on Earth the first movement would be of individuals and private enterprise to push the boundaries and then a government co-opts the new findings and due to the latency of communication and travel time it fragments into independent governments that promise better local administration. It all depends on the capabilities available...

than say, a single all powerful omniscient being which would freak every species out.

I think that there is less chance of that type of event, it depends more on faith and logic. Omniscience would require such a large capability that it would require that being to be an equally vast universe (the observer). Since I'm a pantheist I already agree that we are indeed part of a single powerful structure/being but there is no chance that we would ever communicate...

Originally posted by jjsirius
I believe both the Retilians and the Pleiadians were dreamed up by the Greys for the purpose of distracting us from themselves.

According to EVP expert Peggy Kane, the Draconian Reptilians are good at perceiving people by disguising themselves as Angels or Pleiadians, but she also confirm that Pleiadians exist in the real world and try warn us against these evil Greys and Draconian Reptilians.

From around 3:32 into above intervew Peggy Kane is asked >>Do the Reptilians pretend to be Pleiadians talking to you?Alle the timeBut never humans?The Reptilians look down at humans as retarted cattles, but they hate the Pleiadians, but they have amazing respect for the PleiadiansHow did you began to hear directly from the Pleiadians?I hit the record button and my sound software, i was always experimenting, i hit the "record" and i didn't had a recorder, nothing going in, and i let it run for a minute, and there was this flat line with low wave patterns, so i pumped it up, and there was a >>SSSSSSH>We are the Pleiadians, we are trying to talk to youWe are trying to help the people there on Earth, we are trying to save their livesWhat did he say? What did he make of it?>He said that they tried to help it, and that the "little person" 'told' them that there was nothing that they could do to help him.>He spoke in English?>He did not talk to them in words. He 'talked' to them in their head. But they all understood and 'heard' the same thing at the same time>Didn't he... did he go a little berserk over this? Did he try to tell other officials? Did he try to go to the press?>No. He didn't do anything other than he was out there to do his job. And that was all. And before they could actually do anything there at the crash site itself, the military came and escorted them off of the location.

reply to post by AlienView


Yes 1,000 years from now it is quite possible computers will take over the world, and I know it is your ego in wanting to present the thread which made you translate computers to mean green men. ComputerView.

Or how about blue men View?

You know, if folks wanna claim that Aliens are the ultimate evil, and are all powerful. They pretty much send foot soldiers with anal probing spears, and they would be in legion.

Because they are just that evil to do so, and seeing as how they are advanced, they just could.

Im just being sarcastic. lol.

Yes, I've heard the myths before; Grays, Reptilians, Draconians, etc. Many myths and many stories. Is there any truth to any of it? I keep an open mind; If enough people see the same type of occurrence and beings over and over again then maybe it is more than coincidence or delusion. But what I am talking about here is not based upon any myths or delusions - it is based upon the potential for an unknown intelligence controlling a species whose egotism blinds it to the masters they can not see or fathom. Mystical lore is full of unseen and/or hidden masters who influence the real world from occult dimensions. What should be recognized now is if there is any truth to either the mystical or alien beings then modern computer intelligence is a perfect medium for them to manifest and take control. This might not necessarily be a bad thing. Maybe there are 'ascended masters' and maybe these masters are 'aliens', maybe as some occult lore would have you believe they are benign entities here to benefit humanity. 'IF" that is the case I say let them take over the Planet Earth - They could probably do no worse than what to date humans have done to each other in their endless cycles of power grabs and bloody war.

I did a terrible thing hurting another human being but I was not even in control of my self. I thought nature intended it, I thought God was telling me to do it. I think I'm a candidate for "electronic harassment" because I was getting signs through songs and the world around me.

Sounds crazy but so is life.

Originally posted by Panic2k11
reply to post by Dragonfly79

 

Yup in part I agree but that is old mentality, today we have in large part already open our eyes that even here in this spec of dust government as we know it does not represent us but itself (and its clique).

There can be so many different types of government. My reasoning was if there are civilizations out there which I believe there are, then some would want contact and others would not. Those who would want it are likely part of something already which contacted them at one time in their history, who discovered them and learned about their wish for contact. Each member has a position and they could all be considered as having a kind of power and one of them would have the most, even if there are minute differences in terms of assets, population, age, or comes down to one unique weapon.

It is likely then a civilization wanting to contact us listens to that strongest member which is probably also the wisest and most advanced, probably not even bound by time and space as we think of it.

Those civilizations that do not want contact even if they could do not play a part in this and never will since they don't want contact, not with anyone ever. In case of conflicts it is likely this organisation is going to be involved because the defending party might be interested in membership, such a group would always win even if it was only because of outnumbering a single civilization. But conflicts mean contact and it's likely a species that does not want contact turns the other way, space is infinite.

It's just like being all alone you can do whatever you want without bothering anyone. But if you do want contact and many humans want that then there has to be an adjustment, a change of attitude, like to become more considerate, friendlier almost to a point of unconditional love. There also has to be a single government or entity which notes every idea of every member as either good or bad like laws which would have to be accepted by all to preserve harmony. Any member having too many bad thoughts would mean action to be taken or even something as being thrown out. Those thoughts could be registered by technological means but also simply because of the effects of the action which came after the thought.

For those who don't want to adjust first contact must feel like an invasion, for those who do it would appear a rescue mission.

Either way if they want the planet it's doubtful we can stop them

reply to post by AlienView


The most powerful weapon the Greys have is their mental influence over our decision makers and ourselves.
Our social destruction could be charted beginning in the 1980's.

reply to post by Dragonfly79


Well we are merely speculating but my view is that direct contact would only be interesting (secure and fair) with species at the same technological level, I do not think there is a way whatever other variable change that would alter this necessary balance. This puts the topic on the type of contact...

Those who would want it are likely part of something already which contacted them at one time in their history, who discovered them and learned about their wish for contact.

At a larger scale a multiple solar system culture will have no interest in dealing with backward civilizations beyond social curiosity, cultural artifacts and biological data. They may interact but it will depend on policy considerations or self interest (if no special policy is in place). Mostly the interested party would be the backward civilization. Seeking contact in that situation seems a very great risk, as it would put the decision regarding the outcome into the hands of the "aliens".

I also do not agree with the notion of the Start Trek stile of prime directive (no interference at all) as being positive, to both parts especially in diversely populated universe/galaxy. Imagine the benefits if by 1910 were made aware that we are not alone, WWI would probably never had happened and technology would have evolved towards outworld expansion...

The fact that there is a good chance that we are not alone, almost a certainty today. The large number of observations (even if we only take a in consideration 5% for the UFO observations) and disregard any other type of contact makes it clear that there is already an alien presence amongst us. Taking data and looking on the motivations can clearly only indicate that a) they do not care what we do or happens to us b) they already have control of what we do and what happens to us.c) we are really alone there are not intelligently controlled UFOs

I think that B is what has happened as I disregard C as false (one needs only to look to what happened in Colares Brazil to see how there is clearly alien interaction). Option B also would explain our situation our lack of unity as a specie could initially be blamed on us alone but considering that some Governments do have an agenda to suppress something that would unite us toward a purpose is demonstrative enough that there is a darker agenda at play and it mostly seem to have no desire that the ants escape the ant farm. This also makes those interests localized in our sol system (as clearly it would take us several centuries to go beyond sol) and our society would have evolved drastically when we did take that step...

reply to post by AlienView


Are you saying they are taking over Earth as you title suggests or they are controlling mankind through electronic devices that your post suggests?

What if.....say....they were here....like 400,000 years before us. Would it still be considered them taking over earth or reclaiming their earth?

Or perhaps they never left and never lost it. And maybe we are just not as stupid as we have been for the past 2000 years. Or maybe some of us.....

Originally posted by Rosinitiate
reply to post by AlienView

 

Are you saying they are taking over Earth as you title suggests or they are controlling mankind through electronic devices that your post suggests?

What if.....say....they were here....like 400,000 years before us. Would it still be considered them taking over earth or reclaiming their earth?

Or perhaps they never left and never lost it. And maybe we are just not as stupid as we have been for the past 2000 years.

Or maybe some of us.....

It is possible that as computers and so-called artificial intelligence advance into the future we may find that we are recreating something out of the past - Yes they may have been here in the distant past and they may never have left, or left and planted the intelligence seeds in primitive man that would grow to the day when they will return to see what has grown from the primitive man to man of today. As you imply it is possible that what I call a takeover is in fact a reunion!

reply to post by AlienView


Yes but try to consider that there was a time when "we" ( me, you and every ATS member ) lived here in the distant past when we were more in tune and more advanced both spiritually and technological then we are now.

I know that's a lot to ask of people, not saying you. You know with everybody's egos and all.

*repost. (iPad issues)

It's true... There are beings called the Reptilians that run the Government, thru-out the world.
I met a few in the past. Some are good. My one friend Phil has slits in his eyes, he says his Dad is from Alpha Draconis in the Constellation of Draco. They are here for unknown reasons.
One probly being to take over Earth and they want a new world to conquer.
Most Reptilians are Bad. Pleiadians are benevolent and gentle beings.
I became a member of the GFOL some time after that. I was told by the Pleiadians that my Biological Father is Ashtar. I was adopted as a baby. :p Mostly because my mom was sick, it's a little personal.

On another note, i bought the Billy Meier Story on Dvd via Amazon.

Okay soo yeah no one has replied/added to this for awhile now but hey i'd still like to put my own 2cents in

If aliens did want to take over the world & if they are such evil creatures, wouldn't they have done so already?
I'm sure they are more than capable of doing so. I think they're just waiting on the right time. Like that guy who used to work at area51 called in to that radio show & said that they (aliens) are not what they claim to be & they're going to/are wiping out mass population so we will be easier to control.
That actually makes sense, & I don't think they will be the one doing the dirty work. They'll leave all that destruction to us. Aliens/UFO's aren't exactly keeping their existence top secret, I mean look at how many sightings there are (slowly increasing). I've been lucky enough to witness such thing If they really wanted to really stay hidden, they could & would.

P.S I'm a new member HIIIII!!!

reply to post by nms120113

What I initially proposed when I started this thread is that they are taking over [and may have already taken over]
through modern technology and the internet. Who controls the internet? No one you say; Are your sure? Are you
sure your hypothetical Reptilians aren't already in control?

You see if my hypothesis is true and the aliens are taking over I'm not so sure it is the so-called reptilians. And it
may not be a bunch of bad aliens at all. In another post I proposed it is a group of advanced alien universe or space
scientific types who want us to aid them in controlling the universe; Think it is possible? I do.

reply to post by AlienView


I also agree with them possibly wanting us to help them control the universe. Unfortunately not everyone on this planet can/will accept that notion hence my previous post about them waiting for the right time.

There could be a whole bunch of ET species, some good & some bad. I get what your saying but I don't get how they would benefit from controlling the internet. Modern Tech? Yeah sure but we do still have control of a majority of things like that, with the help of ET's or not. Surely we don't need them holding our hands helping us with every thing in regards to technology, give us humans some credit hehe We're not all completely stupid.

All in all, anything is possible
Completely half asleep writing this so apologies if it doesn't make sense!

reply to post by AlienView


Just another load of theoretical MAKEY UPPEy SCARMOMGERING BOLLOCKS..

Admin is it your policy to allow these morons to keep scaring the readership.

If thats the case im signing off..

FEARPORN is 2 stupid even to read..
Much Love
Plazmuh

Earth is blessed. Aliens will never be able to conquer free-willed earth. Only positive acts that further earth's mission will manifest.