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6 Reasons Why Obama’s Popularity Is Likely to Plummet; The politics of hope & the politics of nope

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posted on May, 19 2013 @ 10:40 PM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by lynxpilot
reply to post by muse7
 


C'mon muse, never let the truth get in the way of a good story!


What truth? The nincompoop who made that Photoshop is too stupid to know the difference between a Marine and an Army uniform!



I knew quite well that both were army uniforms. Does that make any difference? Is somebody a lesser being for their service in another branch?

My personal opinion is that any president that has to have a slave hold his umbrella is a twit and I think they're all a-holes, but trying to make the argument that's been floating around the internet about this being some sort of scandal is absurd.
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posted on May, 19 2013 @ 10:40 PM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by muse7
 


No, more like the Marine Corps Manual is correct and the spokesperson is wrong.

Read it for yourself.


So I guess Commander in Chief does not classify as a "higher authority" then?



posted on May, 19 2013 @ 10:41 PM
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Originally posted by lynxpilot

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by lynxpilot
reply to post by muse7
 


C'mon muse, never let the truth get in the way of a good story!


What truth? The nincompoop who made that Photoshop is too stupid to know the difference between a Marine and an Army uniform!



I knew quite well that both were army uniforms. Does that make any difference? Is somebody a lesser being for there service in another branch?

My personal opinion is that any president that has to have a slave hold his umbrella is a twit and I think they're all a-holes, but trying to make the argument that's been floating around the internet about this being some sort of scandal is absurd.


No, the difference is that the Army isn't bound to the protocols for the Marine Corps. And why would they be?

And BTW, this isn't a "scandal", just plain 'ol ignorance.


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posted on May, 19 2013 @ 10:43 PM
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Originally posted by muse7

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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No, more like the Marine Corps Manual is correct and the spokesperson is wrong.

Read it for yourself.


So I guess Commander in Chief does not classify as a "higher authority" then?


Can you site the section and paragraph of the Marine Corps Manual that changes section 2806, paragraph 2?

I'll wait.



posted on May, 19 2013 @ 10:49 PM
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I really feel lame arguing about this non-issue but heck


The USMC serves as an expeditionary force-in-readiness. As outlined in 10 U.S.C. § 5063 and as originally introduced under the National Security Act of 1947, it has three primary areas of responsibility: The seizure or defense of advanced naval bases and other land operations to support naval campaigns; The development of tactics, technique, and equipment used by amphibious landing forces in coordination with the Army and Air Force; and Such other duties as the President may direct.


I think "umbrella holder" would fall under other duties



posted on May, 19 2013 @ 10:52 PM
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Originally posted by muse7
I really feel lame arguing about this non-issue but heck


The USMC serves as an expeditionary force-in-readiness. As outlined in 10 U.S.C. § 5063 and as originally introduced under the National Security Act of 1947, it has three primary areas of responsibility: The seizure or defense of advanced naval bases and other land operations to support naval campaigns; The development of tactics, technique, and equipment used by amphibious landing forces in coordination with the Army and Air Force; and Such other duties as the President may direct.


I think "umbrella holder" would fall under other duties


Not according to the Obama haters.... and I am still waiting to see where the regulations allow marines to carry wooden steps....
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posted on May, 19 2013 @ 10:55 PM
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The President is only the Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy according to the powers granted to the office in the US Constitution. (Article 2, Section 2)

Do you have a Section and Paragraph that changes or amends Section 2806, Paragraph 2 of the Marine Corps Manual? Other duties are fine, but that cannot be construed to include making a Marine violate the uniform policy.


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posted on May, 19 2013 @ 10:58 PM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Do you have a Section and Paragraph that changes or amends Section 2806, Paragraph 2 of the Marine Corps Manual?


Why do you think it needs to be amended? Why ignore "other duties as required"?

What about marines carrying wooden steps, where is that in the manual?



posted on May, 19 2013 @ 11:01 PM
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Originally posted by hellobruce

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Do you have a Section and Paragraph that changes or amends Section 2806, Paragraph 2 of the Marine Corps Manual?


Why do you think it needs to be amended? Why ignore "other duties as required"?

What about marines carrying wooden steps, where is that in the manual?


What are you talking about? Is there some regulation forbidding male Marines from carrying wooden steps like there is for Marines carrying an umbrella?



posted on May, 19 2013 @ 11:03 PM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
What are you talking about? Is there some regulation forbidding male Marines from carrying wooden steps like there is for Marines carrying an umbrella?


That is what I am asking, so where does it state marines can carry wooden steps
....
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posted on May, 20 2013 @ 02:14 AM
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Originally posted by wildtimes
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Yes, I understand what you're saying. Personally, I think we (the US) should be exploring, working, researching, developing, and focusing on ALTERNATIVE energy sources, and not "oil" - it's clear as glass to me that 'oil' is a huge factor in the current unrest all over the globe.



Yeah, oil seems to play a disproportionate role in a lot of world politics. I bet developing some sort of open source new kind of energy would put a dent in the elite.



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 04:06 AM
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Originally posted by hellobruce

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
What are you talking about? Is there some regulation forbidding male Marines from carrying wooden steps like there is for Marines carrying an umbrella?


That is what I am asking, so where does it state marines can carry wooden steps
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There is not a code written forbidding Marines from carrying wooden stairs while in dress blues.



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 05:04 AM
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Maybe President Obama ordered those Marines to carry umbrellas as a pre-emptive strike because he knew that they were planning to step in and usurp his right to carry his own umbrella.

But seriously, not only is Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II, tougher than any President, but she is also more humble and respectful of her troops. There are numerous photos of her online, carrying her own umbrella, but of course she is not a President of the United States. She is the leading member of the British aristocracy, a segment of society, the umbrellas of which, no President is worthy of carrying.

Long life to Her Majesty!! Huzzah!!!


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posted on May, 20 2013 @ 05:38 AM
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So I don't see how you can lay the blame on Obama while you are just as much a part of the problem


You don't know a damned thing about my 'lifestyle', and I was born here - I didn't choose to come here, and I have tried to expatriate myself twice now. I have always disdained 'consumerism' and 'credit-based' banking systems, and I have NEVER supported wars. I have worked in the trenches to empower the disenfranchised, to promote social justice and have lived within my means for decades. I stayed home to raise my kids, and worked providing cheap and VERY GOOD QUALITY daycare to other's kids in order to do so.

I was happy that Obama was going to change foreign policy to be less invasive, and have ALWAYS said we need to clean up our own act and stop sending youths to wars that can't be won, and aren't our fight.

I really resent you blaming ME for those 'dirty wars.' I'm no 1%er, either - we are struggling to get by, and I've been out of work for a long time. I can't even get a freaking interview at CVS - I'm overqualified, and over 50. So lay off of me.

I've been a liberal progressive for a long time now - and I had 'faith' that Obama would do the things he said he would. He hasn't, and I have a right to be upset about it. That's HIS JOB, and why he was ELECTED. The bank bail-out was the first offense, and the absolute power that Wall Street has is a huge burr under my saddle.

They are CRIMINAL MOBSTERS and yet not one of them has been prosecuted.

I'd be happy living in a 'commune' - with a bartering of goods and services, growing our own food, and ditching my car altogether. No money involved, just people working as a group to get things done and see to our own.



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 05:44 AM
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read the manual . Pretty much all been pointed out to you except the page number you want that too?
Quit deflecting.



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 05:50 AM
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Should everyone be recalled?
Yes.


It's a hard picture to read. It's almost as if the President exists to distract Americans from the real culprits in American politics, the legislators.

Yes. And in my opinion lobbying should be OUTLAWED, there should be no MONEY involved in campaigns, which should last no more than 3 months, and each candidate get only an allotted amount of 'air time' donated by the media outlets or the public broadcasting system (which is supported by viewers/listeners).

Term limits, and no lifetime legislative seats. The laws should apply TO EVERYONE, and congress and all other branches should be paid minimum wage and receive NO BENEFITS. Why do workers have to provide 'measurable outcomes', but those in charge do not? If the prez and congress were held to a common standard as the rest of us working stiffs, they'd have all been fired LONG AGO.

How many 'write-ups' and disciplinary 'meetings' do they go to? Who's keeping 'employee files' indicating annual or semi-annual 'reviews' on them?

It's ridiculous and out of control. As Plato said - the best leaders would be philosophers who don't WANT to be in charge, but do so because they are the best qualified to see to the needs of the 'people' in a just way.
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posted on May, 20 2013 @ 05:56 AM
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American Presidents usually have someone holding their umbrellas. The only picture I could find of one holding his own umbrella was the following.

www.realitychex.com...



Maybe President's are fearful of the sort of damage a willful umbrella can do to the self esteem. Only a down to earth personality like former President Bush disdained such nonsense.

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posted on May, 20 2013 @ 05:58 AM
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I agree with you whole-heartedly. We must be re-incarnated 19th century personalities. (In my own case 18th century.)

It is our duty to re-ground society.


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posted on May, 20 2013 @ 06:03 AM
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Can you please drop the stupid umbrella discussion? Who GIVES A CRAP who held an umbrella?!!!! The topic is Obama's failure to lead congress and his failure to be 'transparent'. I am a very forgiving person, always willing to give the benefit of the doubt and to forgive honest mistakes - but LIARS do not get support from me,

and enabling corruption doesn't fly with me either. I trusted that he was for real - and I am not anti-socialism.
If some Marine wants to get their knickers in a twist for holding a freaking umbrella for someone, that's just retarded.

Being a drone pilot is infinitely worse! Murdering civilians and having 'black ops' that are funded by the TAXPAYERS without their KNOWLEDGE is "just a bit" more worthy of discussion and protest.



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 06:08 AM
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LOL!!! That picture is freaking hilarious. Thanks for making me laugh, I needed it.


And yes, we seem to be of like mind, you and I.



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