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6 Reasons Why Obama’s Popularity Is Likely to Plummet; The politics of hope & the politics of nope

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posted on May, 19 2013 @ 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by wildtimes

He can't win for losing. My mom has told me since 2008 that he's a poor leader. I argued with her about it, blamed the GOP for their obstructionist behavior.....
but now? NOW?

Yeah, I always thought 'he's a puppet, but at least the puppeteers want things to improve for the average householder'.....
NOW I know better.



Its one of those things, he runs one of the finest campaigns and makes some of the finest speeches I've ever seen or heard. I'm not a fan, like I said, but I do believe in giving credit where credit is due and he is brilliant at campaigning and speeches and fundraising.

But, that doesn't a leader make and I'm afraid I have to side with your mom on this. Clinton was a leader, people wanted to follow him and he wanted to lead- and had a gift for - leading. There is no doubt a segment of the population want Obama to lead, but I honestly don't think leading comes easily for him. Something gets lost between the speeches and the "doing"..




posted on May, 19 2013 @ 07:44 PM
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Originally posted by muse7
Lol Republicans keep manufacturing sideshows, country be damned! .

Um .. no. Obama keeps manufacturing scandals and illegal activities, country be damned!

There is nothing manufactured about giving a 'stand down' order in Benghazi and leaving
our people to die in the field. There is nothing manufactured about the IRS having
conservatives on a hit list. There is nothing manufactured about the bull Obama pulled
... he owns it.



posted on May, 19 2013 @ 07:46 PM
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Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by Terminal1
 



New CNN/ORC International poll suggests at this point of time, (May 19th, 9AM) President Obama has not taken a hit on his popularity.

Well, he did in MY HOUSE!
If people aren't paying attention (which most of them are not!), they'll just keep on keeping on with these dreams of hope, change, prosperity, justice, etc.

I was all about it a few years ago. Now I'm just Pissed As Hell.
Oh well. Live and learn.


People want peace and strong economy and that is what they are getting. The past has shown us that Obama will be like Reagan and Clinton. Coming into office in hard times and leaving with things much better. While Obama has not had scandals on the level of those to even if he did people do not care as long as they have peace and prosperity.



posted on May, 19 2013 @ 07:52 PM
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Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by flobot
 


www.abovetopsecret.com...

Now I know what's really going on.
I think.


Thanks for asking, though.


But you are as much of the "problem" that you just linked as Obama is.

You are living in the United States right? You are benefiting from our 'dirty wars' right?

So I don't see how you can lay the blame on Obama while you are just as much a part of the problem. If you choose to continue to live in the United States, you can't place blame on others for wars that support our lifestyle.



posted on May, 19 2013 @ 08:09 PM
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Originally posted by seeker1963
reply to post by Frogs
 


Do you know why Obama won't give approval on the Keystone pipeline????

Perhaps because one of his financial supporters has invested a ton of money into a railroad company to haul all that oil???

Let me give you a hint.......check out Warren Buffets investments into the railroad that will haul all of this oil if the pipeline fails..........................


Did you ever stop to think there are other reasons as to why the pipeline didn't go through? Here's a few.
1. None of this oil will be sold in America it is all for export from the foreign tax free zone where the pipeline was going.
2. This company has the worst record for oil spills.
3. In the long run it will cost more jobs than it will create.



posted on May, 19 2013 @ 08:19 PM
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His popularity is not going to change at all. Democrats will love Obama no matter what, and the republicans will hate him no matter what. Things wont change, he is will go down in history has a hero and great man for being the 1st black president. Regaurdless if you like it or not, thats real life. He will prolly be on our money one day.



posted on May, 19 2013 @ 08:25 PM
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Originally posted by muse7
Lol Republicans keep manufacturing sideshows, country be damned!

Creating a scandal about a Marine holding an umbrella for Obama is higher on their priorities list, than actually doing their jobs and working to pass legislation that helps out the country.

This has now gone past obstructionism and is now almost down right tyrannical.



On that front, I have a question for you. In the past this country was strong, both economically and military wise. Legislation brought us to our knees. What further legislation now, will be our saving grace?



posted on May, 19 2013 @ 08:27 PM
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Popularity of the President is important because he is the nation's leading voice. Anything requiring cooperation of the People, is helped greatly by Presidential popularity.

Since the start of 2009, most Americans have been consistent in believing that the country is headed in the wrong direction.

All graphs at Real Clear Politics:

www.realclearpolitics.com...

Direction of the Country



Americans don't seem to blame the President for this, at least not the majority of Americans.

Approval or disapproval of the President, clearly, is not solely a matter of his performance in steering the ship of state.

Americans are divided pretty evenly on the President, a few more approve of him than disapprove.

Presidential Approval



In addition to being in agreement that the country is moving in the wrong direction, Americans are united in disapproval of their legislators. They really don't like them, . . . but they voted for them.

Should everyone be recalled?

It's a hard picture to read. It's almost as if the President exists to distract Americans from the real culprits in American politics, the legislators.

Congressional Job Approval



I don't know if this picture is historically anomalous. When one looks at the numbers, one could make the argument, superficially at least, that maybe the President is the only thing pulling people together in the country, other than their disapproval of everything else going on in government.

It's a strange situation, isn't it?






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posted on May, 19 2013 @ 09:50 PM
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Sorry, but as long as the recipient class can vote someone into office that offered them "free stuff" at the expense of the production class they will never care what scandals and tyranny he commits. Free stuff trumps honor every time.



posted on May, 19 2013 @ 09:56 PM
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Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by Terminal1
 



New CNN/ORC International poll suggests at this point of time, (May 19th, 9AM) President Obama has not taken a hit on his popularity.

Well, he did in MY HOUSE!
If people aren't paying attention (which most of them are not!), they'll just keep on keeping on with these dreams of hope, change, prosperity, justice, etc.

I was all about it a few years ago. Now I'm just Pissed As Hell.
Oh well. Live and learn.


The history of Socialism should have shown you there wasn't going to be any prosperity or justice.

Except for the Socialists in charge that is. Socialism is for the masses, not the Socialists.



posted on May, 19 2013 @ 09:58 PM
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Originally posted by muse7
Lol Republicans keep manufacturing sideshows, country be damned!

Creating a scandal about a Marine holding an umbrella for Obama is higher on their priorities list, than actually doing their jobs and working to pass legislation that helps out the country.

This has now gone past obstructionism and is now almost down right tyrannical.


The Marine holding the umbrella isn't a scandal. It just shows how ignorant he is to Marine protocols and tradition. That's all that was.



posted on May, 19 2013 @ 10:01 PM
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Originally posted by wildtimes
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Yes, I understand what you're saying. Personally, I think we (the US) should be exploring, working, researching, developing, and focusing on ALTERNATIVE energy sources, and not "oil" - it's clear as glass to me that 'oil' is a huge factor in the current unrest all over the globe.



Well if anyone can name a resource that's more readily available, cost/benefit efficient, and in high demand then bring it up. If there was an option like that out there the demand would push the free market in that direction.



posted on May, 19 2013 @ 10:10 PM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by muse7
Lol Republicans keep manufacturing sideshows, country be damned!

Creating a scandal about a Marine holding an umbrella for Obama is higher on their priorities list, than actually doing their jobs and working to pass legislation that helps out the country.

This has now gone past obstructionism and is now almost down right tyrannical.


The Marine holding the umbrella isn't a scandal. It just shows how ignorant he is to Marine protocols and tradition. That's all that was.






posted on May, 19 2013 @ 10:17 PM
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A male Marine is never allowed to carry an umbrella in uniform. If Bush 1 forced a Marine to violate the uniform regulations that's just as ignorant. Two wrongs don't make a right, that's common sense.

Edit: The military person in that photo isn't a Marine! *facepalm*
edit on 19-5-2013 by NOTurTypical because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 19 2013 @ 10:20 PM
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C'mon muse, never let the truth get in the way of a good story!



posted on May, 19 2013 @ 10:26 PM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
A male Marine is never allowed to carry an umbrella in uniform. If Bush 1 forced a Marine to violate the uniform regulations that's just as ignorant. Two wrongs don't make a right, that's common sense.

Edit: The military person in that photo isn't a Marine! *facepalm*
edit on 19-5-2013 by NOTurTypical because: (no reason given)


Lol want to try again?


The manual states that a commander “may interpret the provisions of this Manual to address specific concerns whenever necessary.”



the Marine Corps shall provide detachments and organizations for service on armed vessels of the Navy, shall provide security detachments for the protection of naval property at naval stations and bases, and shall perform such other duties as the President may direct.



Given that the president is defined as the Commander in Chief “of the Army and Navy of the United States…” by the Constitution and that fact that the Marines’ dress code protocol says “the Commandant or higher authority” can authorize “articles that are not authorized for wear as a part of a regulation uniform,” is the president considered a commander with this ability?



The spokesperson for the Marines said “certainly.”


The Blaze



posted on May, 19 2013 @ 10:27 PM
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Originally posted by lynxpilot
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C'mon muse, never let the truth get in the way of a good story!


What truth? The nincompoop who made that Photoshop is too stupid to know the difference between a Marine and an Army uniform!




posted on May, 19 2013 @ 10:31 PM
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Any change to official Marine uniform regulations must come from the Commandant of the Marine Corps. No officer or official may change the regulations without direct approval of the aforementioned Commandant:

“The Marine Corps Uniform Regulations, published by the Commandant of the Marine Corps, shall be binding on all Marines. No officer or official shall issue instructions which conflict with, alter, or amend any provision without the approval of the Commandant of the Marine Corps.”

Marine Corps Manual, section 2806, paragraph 2.





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posted on May, 19 2013 @ 10:36 PM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by muse7
 


Any change to official Marine uniform regulations must come from the Commandant of the Marine Corps. No officer or official may change the regulations without direct approval of the aforementioned Commandant:

“The Marine Corps Uniform Regulations, published by the Commandant of the Marine Corps, shall be binding on all Marines. No officer or official shall issue instructions which conflict with, alter, or amend any provision without the approval of the Commandant of the Marine Corps.”

Marine Corps Manual, section 2806, paragraph 2.





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I guess you're right and the Marines spokesperson is wrong then





posted on May, 19 2013 @ 10:38 PM
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reply to post by muse7
 


No, more like the Marine Corps Manual is correct and the spokesperson is wrong.

Read it for yourself.

Did you admit yet that the asshat who made that Photoshop of Bush 1 is a moron who can't tell the difference between an Army and a Marine uniform??



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