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Originally posted by SearchLightsInc
Actually if you had been listening you'd see i was referring to the government stepping in and making it legal. They shouldn't be forcing religious institutions to perform gay marriages, that would trampling on peoples free will.
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
reply to post by Annee
Sorry, I didnt know this thread was dedicated to religious arguments only.
Did I miss a signpost or something?
Feel free to completely ignore me and only focus on the simpletons perspective then.
Originally posted by Annee
It's about same sex marriage.
It is not about abolishing Legal Government Marriage.
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Originally posted by Annee
It's about same sex marriage.
Yup.
It is not about abolishing Legal Government Marriage.
Is that not a means to providing same-sex couples with the ability to marry?
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Originally posted by Annee
It's about same sex marriage.
Yup.
It is not about abolishing Legal Government Marriage.
Is that not a means to providing same-sex couples with the ability to marry?
NO! You're talking about a completely separate issue.
Gays want exactly what Legal Government Marriage is Today RIGHT NOW.
They want the full Equal Rights of what Legal Government Mariiage is Today RIGHT NOW. Exactly as it is for straight couples.
They do not want to change it. They do not want to do away with it.
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
So, not only do you speak for the gay community at large, but it's about the perceived entitlements then? Just a grab for the golden ring?
Here I was thinking it was about a union between people who love each other and want to spend the rest of their lives together. Guess I dont know what marriage is.
Originally posted by Annee
Don't try to twist words.
What part of LEGAL GOVERNMENT MARRIAGE are you not getting?
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Originally posted by Annee
Don't try to twist words.
What part of LEGAL GOVERNMENT MARRIAGE are you not getting?
What words am I twisting? People want to marry without obstacles. I offer a solution. THE solution to end any and all nonsensical debate over who has dominion over your personal relationships.
You make it sound like people just want to file a joint tax return.
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Originally posted by Annee
Don't try to twist words.
What part of LEGAL GOVERNMENT MARRIAGE are you not getting?
What words am I twisting? People want to marry without obstacles. I offer a solution. THE solution to end any and all nonsensical debate over who has dominion over your personal relationships.
You make it sound like people just want to file a joint tax return.
Originally posted by Annee
By the way -- CHOICE is the solution.
When everyone can CHOOSE what type marriage they want.
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Originally posted by Annee
By the way -- CHOICE is the solution.
When everyone can CHOOSE what type marriage they want.
Which brings us back to more or less intrusion.
If government has to legislate a vehicle for every choice that's volumes of legalese and tax codes.
If government just butt out of it then everyone gets their choice with the benefit of less regulatory waste.
I see that lots of people would rather stay home and beg mommy and daddy for a raise in their allowance than strike out on their own.
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
reply to post by Annee
I get it. You're happy in your box and you want to drag everyone else in.
Personally, I'd rather get rid of the box and let people do as they wish. Que sera.
Originally posted by Annee
You want to take away Rights, before someone has them. In this case gays right to Legal Government Marriage.
I'm not dragging anyone anywhere. I am fighting for Equal Rights. Once gays have that right, they can choose whatever they want.
I never said abolishing government marriage is an invalid subject. But, it is not about the right of gay's to marry. It is an entirely different discussion.
Originally posted by peck420
Removing the government from marriage is the only way to provide EQUAL rights to EVERYONE (I used your words intentionally).
As it stands now, regardless of the rulings on homosexual marriages, there will still be a minority of US Citizens,
Originally posted by peck420
reply to post by Annee
Ah, so it is not equality for everybody.
Just wanted you to be 100% clear on that.
Thanks for ruining your own credibility in any discussion that involves 'rights'...
Originally posted by Annee
I actually support multiple marriages, but understand the complexity of changing an entire structure system.
Same gender couple marriage changes nothing.