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Originally posted by mindlessbrainpower89
Why do you think Jews where Kippahs on their heads? It shows their marriage with G-d and reminds them that there is a G-d above.
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Originally posted by SearchLightsInc
I dont think the government would be messing with it if there wasn't demandedit on 19-6-2013 by SearchLightsInc because: (no reason given)
That's interesting. So government never gets involved in something unless people want it to?
Even if that were true should popular demand dictate how others live their lives?
Other people are not your property.
Originally posted by peck420
Originally posted by SearchLightsInc
I dont think the government would be messing with it if there wasn't demandedit on 19-6-2013 by SearchLightsInc because: (no reason given)
Government control was instituted long before your government was a twinkle in the eye of another country that didn't even exist when the marriage was bastardized.
So, please enlighten us as to what 'demand' constituted government intrusion into a pure private matter?
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Reply to post by SearchLightsInc
In this case? As in laying their order and regs over more people?
They wouldnt be involvrd in "this case" if they werent involved in marriage at all.
Which is my whole point.
Government wouldnt have had to declare an end to slavery if government hadnt sanctioned it in the first place.
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Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Government wouldnt have had to declare an end to slavery if government hadnt sanctioned it in the first place.
Originally posted by SearchLightsInc
Well, were at this point in history where they ARE involved and it seems that people WANT them involved in this, right or wrong, this is currently how it stands.
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Government wouldnt have had to declare an end to slavery if government hadnt sanctioned it in the first place.
Whether the government should be involved in marriage at all, is a separate argument from Equal Rights for All.
Right now a minority group does not have the same rights as everyone else.
Originally posted by billdadobbie
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic
i do not give a dam either way if someone is straight or gay as long as they do not bother me but i find it weird that at the same time world wide that this is getting pushed through the law and question what next ??
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Government wouldnt have had to declare an end to slavery if government hadnt sanctioned it in the first place.
Whether the government should be involved in marriage at all, is a separate argument from Equal Rights for All.
Right now a minority group does not have the same rights as everyone else.
It's the very same argument. We can get everyone the same rights one of two ways:
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Originally posted by SearchLightsInc
Well, were at this point in history where they ARE involved and it seems that people WANT them involved in this, right or wrong, this is currently how it stands.
And supporting it doesnt help.
Just because Steve has always beaten his wife Steve should continue to beat his wife?
It's okay if we get Steve to beat everyones wife equally? Maybe just switch from using his fists to using something softer like a paddle?
How about we get Steve to stop beating his wife?
Originally posted by Annee
NO it isn't.
Originally posted by SearchLightsInc
The government are having to intervene because religions are never going to allow same sex marriage off their own back. Its simple really, government is basically picking up the slack of religious institutions.
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Originally posted by Annee
NO it isn't.
Well, gee. That's airtight reasoning right there.
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Originally posted by SearchLightsInc
The government are having to intervene because religions are never going to allow same sex marriage off their own back. Its simple really, government is basically picking up the slack of religious institutions.
Wait. Are you saying all the gay Catholics cant get married in a Catholic ceremony and it's governments job to force the Catholics to perform the ceremony?
You do realize that even in states which recognize gay marriage as another extension of government intrusion religions that disapprove of homosexuality are still not mandated to perform service, right?
Originally posted by SearchLightsInc
And rightly so. But its legal and that's all that counts at the end of the day.
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
reply to post by Annee
Need I repeat mine? What dont you get about government having created the inequality in the first place?
The two option are viable. One creates more liberty the other more intrusion.
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Originally posted by SearchLightsInc
And rightly so. But its legal and that's all that counts at the end of the day.
I dont think you believe that. Otherwise you'd concede that removing government intrusion altogether brings us to the same end.
To remove something of illegal status one can either explicitly declare it "legal" requiring more government intervention, or remove the language/structure that makes it "illegal" resulting in less government intervention.edit on 20-6-2013 by thisguyrighthere because: (no reason given)