posted on Nov, 5 2004 @ 08:49 AM
Pardon me, but I promise I am going somewhere with this.
Ive had a keen historical interest in war since I was a child, in the equipment of it (it sounds weird, but if you just look at it from the technical
aspect and divorce what it is used for a moment...hard to put into words for those who dont share my interest......like people who are into HP
Motorcycles or cars...they rave but I dont get it...go figure)
I grew up in a suburb of parents and grandparents who'd seen it since WW1. It left me feeling I should serve somehow and I ended up doing six years
in the reserves with my name in the units unofficial "to go" list.
But I dont love it
....married a green anti nuclear anti war reclaim the night activist who studied it...too much
...studied too much of it myself,
...my grandfather died before my mother was born of the post war effects of Mustard Gas
...my father fought in Europe late in WW2 and was on his way to Japan when the bomb was dropped.
...my uncle served in the RAN in cruisers during the later stages of the Pacific War and shared unpleasant memories.....like being the only survivor
of his department following a Kamakazi attack.
...my mother who lost her boyfreind in 1945 just days after the surrender.
...one godfather (my brothers) who survived 1942-45 as a PoW of Japan in Changi, but whose brother died on the Burma Thai railway.
...another Godfather (my sisters) who served in Korea.
...my godfather who did two tours in Vietnam in RAAF communications and remembered the USAF Security Police dragging a dead VC with a satchel bomb
from under his mess at the airbase. The same 15 year old who did their laundry and they gave extra money to for his sick mother.
...my step mother and in laws who grew up in the Blitz and lost freinds in London and Glasgow respectively.
...the little 75 year old jewish lady whose hair my mother used to do in the 1970s. One day she freaked and started screaming in German when my mum
did a chemical perm on her for the first time. Thats when she rolled up her sleeve and showed mum the stencilled number on her arm. The chemicals
smell triggered the memories of the camp showers. She said you could smell the chemicals they used to clean them if you were nearby, and you didnt
want to be near by. She went in with an extended family and came out alone. She was only 52....that was two years older than my mum but she looked so
much older. I saw and watched her from the back room through the curtain, where neither of them could see me. Great thing to hear when your seven or
Thats what shaped me and my views on the world.
I think Bush is an idiot, there were probably no WMD or viable links to AQ and 911, but I supported the WoT and the War in Iraq because I beleived the
Iraqis needed Saddam gone and as hard as I looked for it, I couldnt see another way of doing it, and I wasnt expecting an opened armed welcome for
the Coalition from some.
I'm not naive, I never expect a politician to do anything unless theres a profit in it for the bugger, but sometimes I hope a long term good comes
out of it. In hindsight if I had realised they were going to try and secure the place on a shoe string I would have said "no" and I hate to say it
but maybe Iraq needed a bastard like Saddam to hold it together. We dont seem to have much luck or heart for it.
I still believe we have to stay and fight the insurgents. I am tired of saying why I beleive it because I know those opposed to it in thier hearts
thier guts and thier minds will never accept it, and I dont blame them, but thats where we part ways.
I was sickened by the awful joy and euphoria of some of the posters revelling in the renewed assault in Fallujah, as I was equally repulsed by those
so bitterly and billiously opposed to it that some even wished thier own troops might get slaughtered to teach them a leason. I couldnt post at
it.....I was just so soul weary by this morning (10-12 hours ago).
I get no joy, and I don't revell in it at all. But I think it is tragically and horribly necessary....again I'm giving up saying why I beleive this
I just do, like some of you just believe it is wrong. I dont know if I'm right honest, but I don't know if you are either. I beleive, if somewhat
relucantly, long term good must, could come out of this and other likely battles to come, and not for the dickheads in Washington and thier corporate
mates. I hope the doomsayers and critics are wrong, god if I beleived in one, I'd pray they are, I hope they are.
I think whats happening is that decades of restraint and frustration and chaos has just been welling up in some people individually and collectively
and its as if 9/11 has just acted as a release valve and excuse to let it all out in a frenzy. Even the anti Bush anti war anti system live and let
live groups seem intent on bloodying themselves in it. Its not just in the USA, its around the world.
Makes me wish we didnt invent the bomb.....a few more "good" world wars we might not be coming to this.
I live in hope that there will be a (relative) end to this and some sort of sanity will re-establish itself before I cash in my chips.
For now, I'm going to try and lay off these heavy threads and go back to the threads where I can indulge in my inner geek
All that I'm hoping is Good luck everyone.