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'Deathbed Testimony' About UFOs Given By Former CIA Official 2013

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posted on May, 5 2013 @ 06:16 PM
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I don't know what I am supposed to make of this video.. it is an interview with some old guy who claims he was in area 51 and saw all sorts of crazy stuff. well we have heard it all before and simply because his claims are similar to what others have claimed it does not mean he is saying the truth.

I have to take his word for everything that he said and he has nothing other than that. i think when I am gray and old I will call some ufo experts and tell them i was in the CIA with some different name and that I saw exactly the same thing this old man and saw. Then people OMG they are both telling the same story it must be true even though all we have to go on is their word... no tangible proof of what they saw or if they were in the CIA.



If you like hearing stories of this sort message me I got tons of them and some based on real life experiences with some elaboration for flavor.




posted on May, 5 2013 @ 06:44 PM
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posted on May, 5 2013 @ 07:00 PM
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I just got to page five of the comments and am a little disappointed as I find the 'is he, or isn't he' telling the truth irrelevant.On this site you could have meaningless discussions upon that all day and night.
What I'm interested in from the good members is if, hypothetically, he is telling the truth what does what he is saying mean in relation to the other things we have been told by the people who also may or may not be telling the truth?

E.g. I've never read before that Eisenhower was worried about an invasion.
Does anyone have more info on this, is there corroboration from other witnesses of this worry?
(of whom there will obviously also be a 'are they or aren't they' comment, but it doesn't progress our understanding of this subject further)

Thanks.



posted on May, 5 2013 @ 07:05 PM
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Originally posted by TheBlackHat
The old guy repeatedly looks up to the left, when he is "recalling memories". However looking up to the left when ever someone is recalling a memory is an indication that they are not recalling a memory but simply making things up from their imagination.



The idea that memory access is related to eye movement direction is complete pseudoscience.
Francis Shapiro of EDMR fame also peddles such nonsense.
edit on 5-5-2013 by Loopdaloop because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 5 2013 @ 07:08 PM
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If you question the 'weapons of mass destruction' then you just do not know what you are talking about.
WMD are more than just nuclear devices, as the citizens of Syria are finding out...which brings to question the three large convoys escorted out of Iraq by Russian special forces just days prior to our invasion.
We are still digging large Russian interceptors out of the desert sands where Sadams forces buried them, to be resurrected when the time was right.
To say there were no WMD's in Iraq is to be an apologist for the liberal left and god Obama and your queen Hillary...
Ignorance is no excuse. Ignorance in the face of reality is treason.



posted on May, 5 2013 @ 07:48 PM
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This old guy really has nothing to gain other than clearing his conscience. It's such a shame people have to carry such a burden of stupid secrecy. The truth shall set you free.



posted on May, 5 2013 @ 08:33 PM
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Originally posted by daveinats
If you question the 'weapons of mass destruction' then you just do not know what you are talking about.
WMD are more than just nuclear devices, as the citizens of Syria are finding out...which brings to question the three large convoys escorted out of Iraq by Russian special forces just days prior to our invasion.
We are still digging large Russian interceptors out of the desert sands where Sadams forces buried them, to be resurrected when the time was right.
To say there were no WMD's in Iraq is to be an apologist for the liberal left and god Obama and your queen Hillary...
Ignorance is no excuse. Ignorance in the face of reality is treason.


Are you on the right thread? What has WMD's got to do with disclosure?



posted on May, 5 2013 @ 09:15 PM
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Signing a document with a specific number of years stating when you could disclose information without the possibility of being subjected to Federal prosecution is something one would not forget. It's not some arbitrary, insignifiicant date. Remember, this is information that is eating you up inside to release. Think about that for a minute.

Then, when you finally decide to release the information you would want to have all your information and stack of cards in order. You have had 30-40 years to achieve this task. You should be able to recall from memory, notes, evidence every single detail of that event if it was indeed that important to you, I know I would. Where is the 3X5 index card? You should not even need an index card. You should have it memorized it by now. It's an index card, not a book.



posted on May, 5 2013 @ 09:20 PM
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This video must be about 4 years old ? he cleary says in the interview that the 50 secrecy ended in 2010... as in it was not 2010 yet ?



posted on May, 5 2013 @ 09:44 PM
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Originally posted by DaTroof
He wants to remain anonymous, yet shows his face and real voice on film? Red flag.





So much for anonymous.

Run that face program.




posted on May, 5 2013 @ 09:49 PM
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How about this plan? Throw the world into a political spin cycle. Establish full global fear. Let the mash ferment until humans are too weak to care. After the SHTF, and the fan is about to turn off for the last time, an alien "savior" race comes to lift us from ourselves. We are forced to welcome them. Sorry if it's off topic.



posted on May, 5 2013 @ 09:58 PM
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Originally posted by Loopdaloop
I just got to page five of the comments and am a little disappointed as I find the 'is he, or isn't he' telling the truth irrelevant.On this site you could have meaningless discussions upon that all day and night.
What I'm interested in from the good members is if, hypothetically, he is telling the truth what does what he is saying mean in relation to the other things we have been told by the people who also may or may not be telling the truth?

E.g. I've never read before that Eisenhower was worried about an invasion.
Does anyone have more info on this, is there corroboration from other witnesses of this worry?
(of whom there will obviously also be a 'are they or aren't they' comment, but it doesn't progress our understanding of this subject further)

Thanks.



Eisenhower was going to have to invade area 51 with an army division from Colorado if they were not allowed into the base.

I can see that happening because at that time the powers that were were just setting up shop and did not have their tentacles into everything yet...and Eisenhower being a general/military man he could get the army behind him and make that happen...

remember Eisenhower later would make a speech telling of these shadow government operations and warning us the people of such things...

this is interesting information and makes me think we can pull it off if we can support the patriotic leadership in the military and ask them to help us the people save the people from the so called new world order


lots of work to do, just keep sharing truth, researching, praying, being the change, whatever it is you do



thank you



posted on May, 5 2013 @ 10:53 PM
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I for one, am entertained by all of the people who are trying so desperately to find a way to keep this video, and this man, from completely shattering their fwagile widdle world view, and everything they thought they ever knew about reality and the universe in which we live.

For these small minds, "extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof"

to which I say,

Who is the one who gets to decide for all of humanity what constitutes "EXTRA" ordinary???

To me, what this man says falls short of extraordinary so, I feel no need to find a way to keep this video
from incorporating its self into my worldview. It is pretty basic stuff really.
What exactly about this video and what this man is saying, is so hard to "believe"?


edit on 5-5-2013 by GeneralChaos because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 5 2013 @ 10:55 PM
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the skeptic in me says why did his hearing aid switch from his left to his right ear toward the end when the light also changed (different time of day most likely), and was it just that, ONLY a hearing aid?

the realistic me says it was probably so he could hear better or look better on the camera and that he didn't look like he was lying, despite a few pauses before answering which melds into the questions in my first paragraph.

either way, very interesting story.



posted on May, 6 2013 @ 01:06 AM
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Originally posted by cornucopia
what made you post in this thread?

Curiosity.



what made you join this website?

Curiosity.



deny ignorance


That's right. Less guessing and believing. Less making things up. More real knowledge.



I posted this because my mission is for ALL Humans to know/remember that we have family out in the cosmos.

We do? Please do tell.



Humans here on this world it's time to evolve once again


It's time?
It's not a matter of time or will. Things constantly evolve.



Many are ready...

What does this even mean?



We will not let the few hold us back..

Holding you back how? And what would you do otherwise, do you mean?



posted on May, 6 2013 @ 01:09 AM
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This clip was highly edited for the purposes of showing at the Disclosure Hearing. They were limited to mere minutes out of what was obviously a very long interview. I imagine the rest will become available at some point.

No-one here gets to diss Richard Dolan until they've read his books, UFOs and the National Security State and taken a good hard long look at his website, keyholepublishing. He's got a wealth of information over there free for the looking and is one of the most reasoned and intelligent of all of the UFO researchers. I cannot imagine him not vetting this person to make sure he was who he said he was and I imagine the entire video will have a lot more revelations in it.

If you saw the Disclosure Hearings you would realize that the Congresscritters who were in attendance were being given a very simplified overview of a very complicated subject (so as not to blow the tops of their relatively small heads off). As it was by the end of the week, a couple of them looked like they were ready to lose it; most seemed to have a great deal of difficulty coming to grips with the possibility that the government they had served in for so many years could actually be lying, even though any slightly awake third grader could easily come to that conclusion.

Stay tuned, there's probably a lot more coming out. This is going to be a multiple-salvo war of words, if not evidence.



posted on May, 6 2013 @ 01:32 AM
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Originally posted by sean
This old guy really has nothing to gain other than clearing his conscience. It's such a shame people have to carry such a burden of stupid secrecy. The truth shall set you free.


He is an old dog. he wants attention. I have family who works in firefighting... they get calls from old people with outrageous claims simply to get attention.



posted on May, 6 2013 @ 04:16 AM
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Originally posted by signalfire
If you saw the Disclosure Hearings you would realize that the Congresscritters who were in attendance were being given a very simplified overview of a very complicated subject (so as not to blow the tops of their relatively small heads off). As it was by the end of the week, a couple of them looked like they were ready to lose it; most seemed to have a great deal of difficulty coming to grips with the possibility that the government they had served in for so many years could actually be lying, even though any slightly awake third grader could easily come to that conclusion.


I agree. I find it interesting to see how stressed people get over these issues



posted on May, 6 2013 @ 04:21 AM
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Originally posted by Loopdaloop

Originally posted by TheBlackHat
The old guy repeatedly looks up to the left, when he is "recalling memories". However looking up to the left when ever someone is recalling a memory is an indication that they are not recalling a memory but simply making things up from their imagination.



The idea that memory access is related to eye movement direction is complete pseudoscience.
Francis Shapiro of EDMR fame also peddles such nonsense.
edit on 5-5-2013 by Loopdaloop because: (no reason given)


No he is looking at the interviewer... to the left of the camera.



posted on May, 6 2013 @ 04:21 AM
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Originally posted by Loopdaloop

Originally posted by TheBlackHat
The old guy repeatedly looks up to the left, when he is "recalling memories". However looking up to the left when ever someone is recalling a memory is an indication that they are not recalling a memory but simply making things up from their imagination.



The idea that memory access is related to eye movement direction is complete pseudoscience.
Francis Shapiro of EDMR fame also peddles such nonsense.
edit on 5-5-2013 by Loopdaloop because: (no reason given)


No he is looking at the interviewer... to the left of the camera.



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