'Deathbed Testimony' About UFOs Given By Former CIA Official 2013

We don't let senile old people drive cars but we believe them about aliens?

Thanks for posting this.

I had my skeptical husband watch it with me...and he looked a little rattled.

I thought this whistleblower was highly credible.

I wish the interviewer had asked more probing questions, but I have a feeling the man being interviewed had set some boundaries ahead of time.

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Then you know nothing about kidney disease. And you're dissing important testimony based on something you know nothing about.

Dialysis doesn't work forever my friend.

A good friend of mine died of kidney disease two years ago in his 40's, despite having dialysis.

triple post..so weird.

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editing triple post.

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Okay. There's being skeptical and then there's being skeptical.

What would an old man--obviously in poor health--have to gain from doing this?

There's a reality out there we are not privy to.

Not everything is a lie, or designed to obfuscate the truth.

Some people blow the whistle when they're about to die.

That's the reality.

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There's being skeptical and there's being 'septic-al'....

I personally do not accept what he says as truth but only because there is no way to prove it's truth as I know truth to be for me. Perception is tricky sometimes. However, I do not dismiss the man as a liar either. I just didn't hear anything new that has not been stated by other alleged witnesses or so called people in the knowing. It's a video comprising many stories that most of us have already heard at one time or another. I still enjoy this stuff though. I would like to believe him and others similar but just cannot find it possible to date. Maybe someday though.

A little skepticism is not unhealthy.

The problem creeps in when it is applied wholesale to justify outright denial for its own sake. Professional skeps, like (James Oberg, Michael Shermer, etc.) use this kind of approach all the time. There's no attempt whatsoever to find truth... just deny any and all possibility.

The flipside of this coin is, of course, immediate belief without questioning. Without that healthy ounce of skepticism, the subject of aerial phenomena is immediately set up for a tar and feathering from the likes of those mentioned above.

The evidence that UFOs are more than swamp gas and Chinese lanterns is out there and when you take it into context with how it is being purposely kept out of sight... you can only wonder why. From there... that old Pandora's Box of conspiracy theories takes wing.

So, here we have Mr. 'Anonymous' giving us a really interesting ride except that the choice of the anonymity creates questions of reliability that one can't just ignore. He may have very good reason but, as some people have pointed out, deathbed confessions usually don't come with hidden identity clauses.

Right here we have a good example of how one story can yank the chain in both directions. If you go too far in either direction, there's no telling what you'll step in.

I don't get him showing his face but he is still "hiding his identity"--That makes little sense to me. How can you verify that he actually was a high level CIA official if we don't know who he was, and was never using his real name while he worked for the CIA?

This is a man being given a final mission and you can see it in his eyes. This is pure bs and he knows it.

Originally posted by Dumbspiracy
We don't let senile old people drive cars but we believe them about aliens?

first of all, I see what you are trying to do there, but it's no going to work...

second of all, driving cars and speaking your truth about something are totally different.


you could know who killed JFK and you did not tell to you got really old because you finally though screw it im gonna tell..

so I would listen to you, use my intuition and I may say...wow, that is amazing..

thank you

and go from there

Originally posted by Unity_99
Starred and flagged for this excellent thread.

Disclosure has already happened, and it really has to do with the level of awareness and those seeing through the corruption, not exactly what they believe about ET. And its not exactly over yet either, in fact, it hasn't even come close to beginning.

Your the best Unity.

So again which is it, Disclosure has already happened or It hasn't even come close to beginning?

The old guy repeatedly looks up to the left, when he is "recalling memories". However looking up to the left when ever someone is recalling a memory is an indication that they are not recalling a memory but simply making things up from their imagination.

Also I don't believe people who work for the CIA are given false names.

Finally if people think this guy is credible, simply because he is old and supposedly dying, remember there are thousands of old guys who claimed to have served in Vietnam etc and they never did, in fact there almost was a law introduced because there are so many liars out there, who upset the men who actually did serve..Old people who tell huge lies are actually very common in the states.

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that is your opinion, not fair to state as a fact because in my opinion you are wrong


you see I KNOW that we are not alone, as a matter of fact


and there is nothing anyone can say to change that, it's not possible...

because I have seen with my own eyes and I have thought, I have communicated and can do so at any time with life from the cosmos...







fyi- you can to
i'm not so special, desire truth, ask and you shall receive...

stop drinking fluoridated water, do heavy metal cleanses, start doing some form of meditation, awaken your mind/"junk"DNA...
eat more greens, sunshine,

love is the key...

forgive...

just love

I do believe we are being visited and not alone, but I don't believe this man at all. Not a bit I can see it in his eyes that he is lying. Motive? Perhaps the reason is that we do not have the upper hand. That they are here and infiltrated. In such a scenario they would want to push a bs story such as this.

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The way he acts after he finishes with a feeling of relief adds to his credibility.

The feeling of relief could be because after a number of takes he was able to get through the lines he learned.

When finished he would feel relieved that the job is done, yes, whether his story to be true or whether he finally got his lines right.

As well, those who question how he may of been recruited to CIA. I would argue that the CIA has no employment add stating this or that as an asset.

Really, I believe there was a thread here on ATS discussing the CIA recruiting at some of the top Universities.
If memory serves me well the CIA set up recruiting stands like the military do.

wow all steriotypical ufo crap.

it MUST be true

Originally posted by talisman
I don't get him showing his face but he is still "hiding his identity"--That makes little sense to me. How can you verify that he actually was a high level CIA official if we don't know who he was, and was never using his real name while he worked for the CIA?

how bad are the CIA at background checks?

if i was CIA and even part of the "conspiracy" i would be angry at this guy for effectively calling me a dumbass.

also the CIA used to get people for specialised top secret jobs who have zero background experience.

this does not make sense.

Lots of good replies in this thread. Yea, it's healthy to be skeptical of what you hear when there's no evidence, but it get's to a point where people just deny everything and everything is just a hoax to them. I'm not saying to accept what people say, but just to be open minded and to acknowledge that it's neither true or false. Too many "This person is crazy, OBVIOUS hoax" replies, and those are just as bad as the ones who accept everything...