MSNBC Lawrence O'donnell Completely Lies About Boston Lockdown & Calls Ron Paul The Liar, Unbelieva

Originally posted by jrod
What a tool. Clearly Marshall Law was declared in Boston. Ron Paul is one of the rarest types of politicians, an honest one.

The reason he did not gain more popular support is because the MSM, the republican party, and others de-railed his campaign and spread lies.

My grandmother used to like Ron Paul years ago, she is a hard-nosed republican. However she fell for the lie and I asked her why she like Mittens over Ron Paul, she told me Ron Paul is a nut job.

The power of the MSM to influence the average citizen is amazing and the average person has is clueless to the conditioning they are being bombarded with.

edit on 2-5-2013 by jrod because: typeO

Or perhaps it was due to him being a racist homophobe who doesn't believe in evolution or separation of church and state.

Originally posted by DaTroof
Actually, Paul is an idiot and O'Donnell proved that. There's a reason why Ron Paul couldn't even beat Mitt Romney. Paul is an idiot and only loved by his idiot constituents in Ignorance, Texas.

You sound very famiar to me...oh ya, Management at MSNBC fired you...Ed Schulz dude?
Larry will also soon be fired too...soon as their young hotties pass their GED's!!!

reply to post by DaTroof

care to elaborate on that, I mean calling him an idiot does not prove him to be an idiot. I watched the video and the reporter was made to look like a corporate piece of work, especially at the end.

Here in this thread is what is happening today to our country and to the world. When I say this world I mean the humans who are occupying this world. We simply have no trust. We can no longer accept the world as a diverse collection of perspectives. Our intolerance is projected onto others and we assign them the role of our enemies.

This whole argument is based on a battle of semantics or specific word usage. Ron Paul displays an ignorance of certain world realities, and Lawrence responds with an enthusiastic critique of the inflammatory language. And at the same time we citizens of this planet are experiencing decreasing stability and security.

Being humans we figure this assault on our normalcy is the plan of some nefarious cabal and couldn't possibly be the result of some semi intelligent apes making a mess of things.

The thing most worrisome about this is that we are losing our view of accepted reality. Each individual is retreating into their own delusional state, and the beautiful, and perfect state, of this wonderful world we occupy is being lost by the human species.

But back to the topic. Is the unique quality of the United States as a nation being threatened? You bet it is. Now I don't want to bash my country because it has worked out pretty well for me. That is if I compare it to the plight of many other humans in the rest of the world. But I think what many fail to understand is that this specialty results not from our form of governance, which I think we can all agree is a light unto the world, but rather the abundance, comfort and glory that is the United States is the result of, as it always is, empire and plunder. subjugation, cruelty, and yes murder.

Our success is to be our undoing.

What Ron Paul and others of his thinking fail to realize is that the world is indeed smaller. Populations are larger. and opportunity for pay back is more readily available. This romantic notion of man as an island unto him self is past, and in fact may never have been. This cry against oppression and longing for a simpler age. is, I am afraid, a call for desolation and destruction.

Don't be deluded into thinking that a few well placed bullets into a few well chosen individuals will result in a return to a state of independence and freedom. Americans are, right now, about as free as they have ever been or will every be.

Jesus Christ talk about derailing a thread. Anyone in there right mind should be jumping out of there seats when they saw what happened in Boston. If you think it's "normal" Well, it doesn't really matter since were ALL screwed. I think this was more or less a test to see how much they could get away with this. Not only are the majority of the people not protesting this police state, they actually support it. Just goes to show you biological and chemical engineering have come along way since 1776. Everyone is so docile now and afraid, including me. Even the people in the "know" aren't really doing anything.

Secretly deep down were all on the same boat heading down #creek and no one has a clue or a paddle on how to get out. This all really sucks, and I don't see how were going to get out of this.

It's just going to get worse and worse....

Originally posted by seeker1963
reply to post by ModernAcademia

 

I wonder how much government funding this new station receives?

MSNBC has been around since 1996, so it really isn't a new cable network. I don't think anyone knowledgable would call it a station, as a station broadcasts a signal over the airwaves, which MSNBC doesn't do.

And it's a privately-owned station, so it isn't getting any money from the gub'mint.

As to the original thread's point, Lawrence O'Donnell lied about at least one thing, that no guns of the militarized police were pointed at innocent persons. There was some thread here at ATS that showed an example of this. Also think Lawrence was splitting hairs when he said there were no tanks involved, as Ron Paul claimed. There were certainly armored personnel carriers, such as Humvees involved.

However, Lawrence's other points are correct as far as I know. @OP, you claim that Lawrence's segment that you linked to is full of "surgical lies" (whatever that means), but you don't back up your big claims. Please tell us which things O'Donnell said were lies, besides the one I already mentioned.

Originally posted by DaTroof
reply to post by ZombieJesus

 

I only needed several minutes to determine that O'Donnell was correct and that the YouTube video relies TWICE on a headline blurb "ordered to stay in their homes"... whose order? Under what law? What arrests were made in violation of the lockdown? It's easy to see who gets wrapped up in poorly worded televised reporting and who actually researches things.

Holy insane bat chit batman.... You are the epitome of a sheep that has glaring, empirical evidence of a guy lying about Paul (which I don't totally care for myself) and you drink up every little ounce of O'Donnell's koolade! Wow, you make the elitished handlers proud with your brainwash diatribe!

Originally posted by Kali74
Ron Paul did get it wrong but I think accusing him of lying is a bit much. I live in Boston I can tell you for a fact, people were asked, not ordered to stay inside... obviously the direct neighborhoods involved in the search was a different story. I wish people on all sides and that includes fellow members here, would stop politicizing this tragedy.

Like Lawrence O'Donnell is doing?

Originally posted by Granite

Originally posted by DaTroof
Actually, Paul is an idiot and O'Donnell proved that. There's a reason why Ron Paul couldn't even beat Mitt Romney. Paul is an idiot and only loved by his idiot constituents in Ignorance, Texas.

You sound very famiar to me...oh ya, Management at MSNBC fired you...Ed Schulz dude?
Larry will also soon be fired too...soon as their young hotties pass their GED's!!!

MSNBC has young hotties? Like Andrea Mitchell and Rachel Madcow?

Originally posted by Kali74
Ron Paul did get it wrong but I think accusing him of lying is a bit much. I live in Boston I can tell you for a fact, people were asked, not ordered to stay inside... obviously the direct neighborhoods involved in the search was a different story. I wish people on all sides and that includes fellow members here, would stop politicizing this tragedy.

LOL, I do not live there but a friend of mine (Fantasy football crony) left his house during the "voluntary" lock down and was forced to the ground at gun point, searched and then wasn't allowed back to his house for some hours.

Yep, I'm sure this is exactly the definition of voluntary!

Martin Bashir, another fine socialist propagandist, interviewed Roger Nicholson who attacked Alex Jones for being " The Westboro Baptist Church of journalism." Alex Jones then revealed a Youtube video of Nicholson laughing like a hyena over video footage of afghans( taleban or al qaeda) being killed by US rockets and machine gun fire. He couldn't get enough of watching one man being blown up and loved the carnage of another being burne dup next to a truck. All the while professing his addiction to violent video games. His fellow left wing cohost was at least disgusted by his behavior. He came across as a complete psychopath as well as a complete hypocrite.. No doubt he has a future at MSNBC.
They've gone past drinking koolaid at MSNBC, its blood now.

Originally posted by FollowTheWhiteRabbit
MSNBC is to Fox News as a cat is to a cat.

I agree with one minor correction. As a RAT is to a RAT!!

Originally posted by okyouwin
Here in this thread is what is happening today to our country and to the world. When I say this world I mean the humans who are occupying this world. We simply have no trust. We can no longer accept the world as a diverse collection of perspectives. Our intolerance is projected onto others and we assign them the role of our enemies.

This whole argument is based on a battle of semantics or specific word usage. Ron Paul displays an ignorance of certain world realities, and Lawrence responds with an enthusiastic critique of the inflammatory language. And at the same time we citizens of this planet are experiencing decreasing stability and security.

Being humans we figure this assault on our normalcy is the plan of some nefarious cabal and couldn't possibly be the result of some semi intelligent apes making a mess of things.

The thing most worrisome about this is that we are losing our view of accepted reality. Each individual is retreating into their own delusional state, and the beautiful, and perfect state, of this wonderful world we occupy is being lost by the human species.

But back to the topic. Is the unique quality of the United States as a nation being threatened? You bet it is. Now I don't want to bash my country because it has worked out pretty well for me. That is if I compare it to the plight of many other humans in the rest of the world. But I think what many fail to understand is that this specialty results not from our form of governance, which I think we can all agree is a light unto the world, but rather the abundance, comfort and glory that is the United States is the result of, as it always is, empire and plunder. subjugation, cruelty, and yes murder.

Our success is to be our undoing.

What Ron Paul and others of his thinking fail to realize is that the world is indeed smaller. Populations are larger. and opportunity for pay back is more readily available. This romantic notion of man as an island unto him self is past, and in fact may never have been. This cry against oppression and longing for a simpler age. is, I am afraid, a call for desolation and destruction.

Don't be deluded into thinking that a few well placed bullets into a few well chosen individuals will result in a return to a state of independence and freedom. Americans are, right now, about as free as they have ever been or will every be.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you but it sounds like you're saying:
The problem with the world is just a lack of trust and misunderstandings. The cry of oppression from people in the U.S. just isn't real. The people in the U.S. are the oppressors and we are in okyouwin's opinion just getting our just deserts, Ron Paul just doesn't get that we live in this global village. There is no cabal, there are no oligarchs. Don't assassinate anyone because we will never be freer.

OK, before I get slammed by Ron Paul supporters the above is not my opinion, just what I think okyouwin is verbosely saying.

I find his assertions ridiculous, but that is my opinion. I find it humorous how he talks about "accepted reality". What the hell is that? The reality that he accepts? And his reality (the accepted reality) is beautiful and perfect, but everyone else's is delusional. That there is nothing that can be done? That we should accept things the way they are? And then he ends his little commentary with a warning about assassination. That is totally weird!!

Who in the hell ever talked about murder except for this guy. Geez that is one of the weirder posts I've seen. What a frickin weirdo...ok sorry I shouldn't name call, but that post is weird.

Originally posted by DaTroof
reply to post by Catacomb

 

Ron Paul's rhetoric is based on headline lies, the type often spewed by Alex Jones and the right-wing libertarian lie crew. Spin is spin. Learn how to see it.

I see it in each and every post you make. Oh yeah!

reply to post by seeker1963


They have be receiving a great deal of money from the federal goverment because they would not be on the air otherwise. They are the lowest rated news channel, one of the lowest rated cable channels. So bad that the history channel has double the average viewers. Their is no way this station could even be on the air unless the system was rigged.

Originally posted by DaTroof
reply to post by Catacomb

 

NOT a forced lockdown, not even a lockdown.
No tanks.
No one held at gunpoint. Guns were held, and were pointed around, but not trained on anyone.
I could keep going, but why bother? Ron Paul is an idiot.

Everything you just said is completely wrong. Not some of it, all of it. What's the problem exactly? You don't have google on your computer, not interested in facts much or are you just trolling?

reply to post by BravoBull


Well I'm sorry you're having a hard time understanding. The main point I'm trying to make is fairly simple. We assign values to experience based on our own prejudice. There is presently a great cry against oppression and a belief that government is intent on the destruction of personal liberty. And there are people who think it is the duty of right thinking folks to oppose this effort to enslave. I'm saying this may be an over reaction. a misinterpretation. And the danger is that this vocal defiance issued in the most absolute of terms will only bring an escalation in the response.

For Ron Paul to state in no uncertain terms that the police state has arrived and to do so misrepresenting the facts is an example of the delusional state most of us have come to operate under. I have no doubt that Mr. Paul actually believes what he says. no matter how contrary to the reality. But a clear thinking person. should be able to see that two individuals who had just killed innocent people and had wrecked horrific destruction on scores of others, were at large, still in possession of explosive devices with the intent to use them. I personally don't see the actions of the ones in charge of capturing these individuals as an affront to personal liberty.

When I say lack of trust it seems obvious that Mr. Paul cannot accept that the capture of the perpetrators is the primary objective. There is no trust or confidence that actions are for this intention. When I use the word delusional, I think there are examples right here on this board. We have a denial of what is painfully obvious. People were murdered, maimed. Lives destroyed. And yet there is this denial, a complete rejection of the facts for the sole purpose of supporting their argument for oppression. It seems many of us have lost the ability or desire to identify reality, preferring instead to insist on promoting our perceptions at what ever cost. This is a loss for humanity and it makes me fearful for our future. And if you think that's weird, then you haven't truly thought through you position.

As for the part about payback, empire. plunder, murder; maybe you should review history.

reply to post by okyouwin


I am still waitng to see the carnage from the bomb explosion itself to decide if it was an acting job with fake victims or IF in fact several hundred people were IN FACT injured. This is of primary importance in determining who is dellusional and who is real.

If it was real and there were so many victims then YES that response was justified. If not then it was a practice of martial law for the militarised police units of DHS working alongside local police departments.

The threat level determines EVERYTHING!

I was told well haven't you watched the news lately, and my response is show me the #ing videos. Thanks ahead of time. Maybe we can put all this to rest once and for all. 9-11 was an inside job and they killed thousands there and I have done the research to conclusively prove it to myself. If they can kill 3000 in one day then I feel confident they would have no problem doing fake bomb plots either.

Originally posted by Swills
reply to post by DaTroof

 

No one held at gun point?

You sure bout dat?

Here's clip of Watertown family "volunteering" to stay in their homes as they are ripped out by police.

edit on 1-5-2013 by Swills because: (no reason given)

I cannot find any context for this clip....was it a suspects house?....did someone call in and give a tip on this house?....was this even during the boston house checks, or was this a drug raid from last year, last month?... was this even in boston?......question????? why do all of you posters not ask these questions?.... there is nothing in the entire 6 minute clip to substantiate your assumptions.......
AND THIS IS WHAT IS REALLY SCARY!!!!
will YOU use the same method of reasoning, but in a different circumstance, and act upon them with deadly force, without first gathering all the evidence???????

reply to post by jimmyx


We don't need context in Freedom Threads!

You have to understand that Ron Paul was crafted from the DNA of 18 signers of the Declaration of Independence.
His bowel movements are red, white and blue colored liberty pellets.
He urinates Gadsden yellow.
When Ron Paul drives by a prison the inmates are set free.
When Ron Paul lies (which he never does) it becomes the truth.
The CATO institute tried to bottle Dr. Paul's bathwater, it was too free and seeped through the glass.

You, my friend, just don't understand liberty and freedom.