Nazi Style Raids. Boston Bombing. Video Going Viral.

Originally posted by S3rvoV3ritas
reply to post by 3mperorConstantinE

 

That was actually a photo of the police getting replenished on milk for their donuts....

So, you mean to say that MSNBC isn't telling me Da Troof?



S&F

Originally posted by guymontag

Originally posted by S3rvoV3ritas
reply to post by 3mperorConstantinE

 

That was actually a photo of the police getting replenished on milk for their donuts....

I seriously wouldn't doubt it.

No Joke: Cops Request “Dunkin Donuts” in Boston Remain Open During $333 Million City Shutdown

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The nerve of them ! How dare they take a cheap meal rather than going all out of steak and salad !
You guys crack me up. It's like everyone is trying to find the bad and convince themselves that we were being help hostage by the Police rather than Two terrorist bombers

reply to post by SMR


Yes because it's entirely possible for 2 individuals to hold an entire city hostage...

Originally posted by SMR
The nerve of them ! How dare they take a cheap meal rather than going all out of steak and salad !
You guys crack me up. It's like everyone is trying to find the bad and convince themselves that we were being help hostage by the Police rather than Two terrorist bombers

I didn't see two kids running down the streets screaming at people to stay in their homes, shut their doors and windows, or to come out with their hands up on command. Did you?

I didn't see that. Who was holding who hostage, again?

I guess you get an entirely different programming than what I have -- who is your cable provider?

Or maybe I just see it for what it was. Two men on the lose with an arsenal of weapons and bombs, throwing them out of a car on residential streets ... shall I go on ?
You guys WANT a conspiracy and WANT to blame Police. It's like the guy that hates the Police, until they are needed for his purpose.

Originally posted by SMR
Or maybe I just see it for what it was. Two men on the lose with an arsenal of weapons and bombs, throwing them out of a car on residential streets ... shall I go on ?
You guys WANT a conspiracy and WANT to blame Police. It's like the guy that hates the Police, until they are needed for his purpose.

No. It's really not.
I'm not a fan of paramilitarized police forces.
There are some city cops that may be nice people (approx 1 in 15), but I for one sure as hell don't “need” them. At all.
To be quite honest, if more of those who are inherently capable, had some semblance of self-reliance; especially when it involves their own living space – then we wouldn't have so many of these quasi-military, for-profit, quota-driven asshats running around our cities and towns. Honestly, these people are often worse than the criminals they're supposed to be after.

Yes, I would rather have a 19 year old, cookery-wielding Chechen in my backyard-shed than 2-dozen+ Storm Troopers with flash bangs and MP5s crawling through my garage.

I've also never had a drug dealer pull me over for not wearing a seatbelt in my automobile, neither, so go figure.


Speaking of conspiracy … please tell us about this arsenal of weapons the two young men were using.
Were they the weapons being used while they were yelling “Chill out! We didn't do it!” while the police were firing at them?
FYI: I have read the criminal affidavit filed by the FBI and can't seem to find any information on this amazing cache of weapons. So please, inform us.

— Or, were you just parroting what the talking box in your living room said?


P.S. The star on your previous post wasn't somebody agreeing with you. Accident. The star was meant for S3rvoV3ritas. So be a champ and star his post thanks

Originally posted by 3mperorConstantinE
P.S. The star on your previous post wasn't somebody agreeing with you. Accident. The star was meant for S3rvoV3ritas. So be a champ and star his post thanks

Notice the irony in that request ?
I rather have it removed than to star something I do not believe in. Amazing request
Besides. This website isn't about post count, stars or flags. It's about denying ignorance. Though I must say. I have seen a lot of ignorance this past couple weeks.

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Sarcasm:

• (noun)

1. something that is often lost in translation during TCP/IP transmission, apparently.
   

P.S. Now that we got that out of the way, would you care to answer the question asked?

I watched the video. The authorities obviously had a reason to be nervous about that particular property. I assume they didn't do this to every house in Watertown.

As it turned out, the terrorist wasn't at this house. But he could have been. If he was, and they managed to apprehend him, you'd all be singing their praises. Good job, boys!

Come on, you can't have it both ways. You want them to catch the bad guys or not?

In the end, they took the fool alive. It was a superb result, and everyone involved that day deserves a pat on the back.

OK I'm not cool with the entry into the home. It's a 19yr old kid with devices that did very little property damage. It's not like he is eluding police on foot with enough pressure cookers to level a city block or anything. But I digress... I am only left to wonder what happened to the front doors of peoples' homes who never answered. Honestly I have yet to hear if any were kicked in, but I imagine that the officer would have done so if the people had not opened the door finally in the beginning of this video.

The search of the home is quite frightening alone, but it's not the biggest rights violation I saw in that video. After the first officers send the now pronounced non-suspects out of the home, they are immediately sent down the front porch stairs to another LEO who knows they are not Suspect #2 but still proceeds to physically pat-down these innocent bystanders on there own property. There is absolutely no reason to carry on with searching anyone for weapons and/or contraband unless they fit the description of the wanted individual, which had already been determined before each individual was allowed to walk out the front door. These people are not treated like free innocent individuals who are within there own private property.

The home search is very scary, and as others have pointed out in different threads, it set a legal precedent that will now be hard to argue against in a court of law. But the pat-down to me is far worse. This is because this wasn't a public venue, this was on these peoples property, mind you without a warrant, after it had already been made clear they weren't the suspect. There is absolutely no right to basically pat-down every single citizen of those searched neighborhoods when they were on their own property obeying the "suggested" shelter dictate . It absolutely served no purpose in apprehending the wanted suspect.

I can tell you this... If that had happened at my house, I'm probably would have been getting cuffed and ringing the ACLU with my one call.

Originally posted by OatDelphi
It's a 19yr old kid with devices that did very little property damage. It's not like he is eluding police on foot with enough pressure cookers to level a city block or anything.

A 19 year old who had committed a terrorist attack on US soil, killing and injuring numerous people.

You don't take chances with this kind of thing. Because if you do, the next wannabe terrorist sees how weak you are.

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Yeah, right ... You made the effort to edit your post to add sarcasm ...
You meant it and found out just how stupid a remark it was and your fallback was 'sarcasm'

I'm actually worn out posting the same things over and over is all these Boston threads. I have said it time and time again and others have as well. Pictures and video show the shootout. You dont see what you dont want to see, but only what you want to see. Been dealing with your kind for nearly Two weeks now. One member had the guts to say the 19yr old didnt have a bullet wound to the neck when he was getting out of the boat ... and his proof was a blurry picture !

If and when Martial Law comes, you'll know it and feel it !

This video proves one thing for me,the government needs no "gun control",Something wicked this ways comes,and it's not Django

Originally posted by SMR

If and when Martial Law comes, you'll know it and feel it !

Martial law gets enacted all at once. A police state gets there over time. This one is well under way.

Originally posted by Erongaricuaro
reply to post by LadyGreenEyes

 

A few days ago I was able to watch a couple video clips that had since been taken down from YouTube a couple hours later when I went back to find and post their links in this thread. One was a TV news report with action video and news anchor commentary about door-to-door police searches of homes in Watetown.

One man interviewed in the newsclip spoke of being shocked by sudden police presence in his home and ordering him outside. He asked if he could get his shoes and was told, "Just get out, now!" Others interviewed spoke of being kept rounded and out of their homes for hours wondering when they might be able to go back in. Other comments heard suggested people who authorities encountered outside of were ordered to go inside and remain in their homes while others encountered inside their homes were ordered out and were detained in a location down the street for possibly hours.

The clips showed armed police vehicles and officers in SWAT-like gear encountering and escorting people out of their homes and up the street with their hands overhead. It appears some reports and commentary in this thread are at least somewhat accurate and steps have been taken to downplay events and remove some of the more inflammatory and revealing scenarios. Videos I found subsequently were among some you posted above and did not reveal a great deal of details about the events of that day in Watertown.

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Appreciate the data! The more I see, the more it looks just as bad as many have suspected from the start. I did see one short clip (think I posted the link) with a news person talking about the situation, but there wasn't a lot of video; maybe 2 minutes total length. Some told to go inside, and others told to leave their homes, people on the ground as though being arrested, and so forth; seems they used a hunt for ONE person as an excuse to run a martial law trial, and see if anyone complained. From most comments I saw on video, most weren't complaining at all, beyond saying it was scary. Someone I know, that I talked to, actually stated they would have had no problem letting cops in to search their home, for NO reason at all, because they "have nothing to hide". Unreal!

I suspected some videos were removed. The last four years or so, online censorship of data seems to be the norm.

If this was a test run, and it's looking more like that's the case, they must be thrilled at the results. Then again, this was Massachusetts. I am not sure this would go over well in some places. Considering the comments from that person I know, though, I could be wrong.

The removal of the videos, concealing the facts, supports the claims of martial law. I don't want to cry wolf, but in this case, I think the furry buggers are at our heels. Thanks again for the information.

If anyone does locate videos with more incriminating actions, please post. Maybe download, too, in case those are removed!

Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes

Appreciate the data! The more I see, the more it looks just as bad as many have suspected from the start. I did see one short clip (think I posted the link) with a news person talking about the situation, but there wasn't a lot of video; maybe 2 minutes total length. Some told to go inside, and others told to leave their homes, people on the ground as though being arrested, and so forth; seems they used a hunt for ONE person as an excuse to run a martial law trial, and see if anyone complained. From most comments I saw on video, most weren't complaining at all, beyond saying it was scary. Someone I know, that I talked to, actually stated they would have had no problem letting cops in to search their home, for NO reason at all, because they "have nothing to hide". Unreal!

I suspected some videos were removed. The last four years or so, online censorship of data seems to be the norm.

If this was a test run, and it's looking more like that's the case, they must be thrilled at the results. Then again, this was Massachusetts. I am not sure this would go over well in some places. Considering the comments from that person I know, though, I could be wrong.

The removal of the videos, concealing the facts, supports the claims of martial law. I don't want to cry wolf, but in this case, I think the furry buggers are at our heels. Thanks again for the information.

If anyone does locate videos with more incriminating actions, please post. Maybe download, too, in case those are removed!

Yes. The videos, which I also did not see, support the claims of martial law.

Originally posted by FOXMULDER147
I watched the video. The authorities obviously had a reason to be nervous about that particular property.

As it turned out, the terrorist wasn't at this house. But he could have been.

In the end, they took the fool alive. It was a superb result, and everyone involved that day deserves a pat on the back.

It appears others may agree with your assessment of the suspect's arrest, despite some details remaining yet unanswered.

www.usatoday.com...

Boston Marathon bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev had no gun when police fired on a boat where he had been hiding Friday before his capture, federal law enforcement officials told The Washington Post.

The FBI would not tell the Post what prompted officers to fire dozens of rounds at the covered boat in a Watertown, Mass., driveway Friday night. Tsarnaev was wounded when he surrendered, but the FBI would also not say whether he was shot during the finale or the shootout with authorities that killed his 26-year-old brother, Tamerlan.

Some authorities said at the time the wound may have come from a suicide attempt.

One law enforcement official described the final chaotic 30 minutes as the "fog of war," saying that an accidental shot may have caused other officers to begin firing.

"Law enforcement was placed in an extraordinarily dangerous situation," FBI spokesman Paul Bresson told the Post. "They were dealing with an individual who is alleged to have been involved in the bombings at the Boston Marathon. As if that's not enough, there were indications of a carjacking, gunfire, an ambushed police officer and bombs thrown earlier. In spite of these extraordinary factors, they were able to capture this individual alive with no further harm to law enforcement. It was a tremendously effective outcome under dire circumstances."

Originally posted by buckrogerstime

Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes

Appreciate the data! The more I see, the more it looks just as bad as many have suspected from the start. I did see one short clip (think I posted the link) with a news person talking about the situation, but there wasn't a lot of video; maybe 2 minutes total length. Some told to go inside, and others told to leave their homes, people on the ground as though being arrested, and so forth; seems they used a hunt for ONE person as an excuse to run a martial law trial, and see if anyone complained. From most comments I saw on video, most weren't complaining at all, beyond saying it was scary. Someone I know, that I talked to, actually stated they would have had no problem letting cops in to search their home, for NO reason at all, because they "have nothing to hide". Unreal!

I suspected some videos were removed. The last four years or so, online censorship of data seems to be the norm.

If this was a test run, and it's looking more like that's the case, they must be thrilled at the results. Then again, this was Massachusetts. I am not sure this would go over well in some places. Considering the comments from that person I know, though, I could be wrong.

The removal of the videos, concealing the facts, supports the claims of martial law. I don't want to cry wolf, but in this case, I think the furry buggers are at our heels. Thanks again for the information.

If anyone does locate videos with more incriminating actions, please post. Maybe download, too, in case those are removed!

Yes. The videos, which I also did not see, support the claims of martial law.

Enough have reported seeing them that I will give the benefit of the doubt, and assume they are real.

The world has gone mad.

Originally posted by SMR
reply to post by 3mperorConstantinE

 

Yeah, right ... You made the effort to edit your post to add sarcasm ...

You meant it and found out just how stupid a remark it was and your fallback was 'sarcasm'

I'm actually worn out posting the same things over and over is all these Boston threads. I have said it time and time again and others have as well. Pictures and video show the shootout. You dont see what you dont want to see, but only what you want to see. Been dealing with your kind for nearly Two weeks now. One member had the guts to say the 19yr old didnt have a bullet wound to the neck when he was getting out of the boat ... and his proof was a blurry picture !

If and when Martial Law comes, you'll know it and feel it !

You're kidding, right?
Either that or you're smoking something that is interferring with your ability to communicate rationally.
*Sigh*
The part of my post to which you're referring, YOU QUOTED IN YOUR REPLY. Now, look and compare that quotation to my original post.

Do you see anything different??? Because I sure as hell do not.

And “your kind” … hmmmm...Woo-hoo! An ad-hominem attack. Super classy.
But I'll play along, and happily take your inexplicably-inflated ego down another peg.

So as far as you being worn out, it doesn't surprise me at all. Thinking and logic are apparently akin to abstract algebra to you and “your kind”, a full 92% of the CNN-watching population.

In addition, please note that I've never said that what happened in Boston was "martial law". I wrote "martial law traning day".
Figure that one out for yourself, Kelly.

It doesn't matter when the police/FBI injured the kid's throat -- he had no weapon in the boat.

I am certain that the talking box in your living room informed you of that new information, from the Boston PD today, did it not?

Boston's Door-to-Door Searches Weren't Illegal, Even Though They Looked Bad

There were two components to last week's shelter-in-place request in Watertown, Massachusetts. The first was a request that people not to leave home. The second was a door-to-door search by heavily armed law enforcement officials. Those are two very different things, with different implications. But neither was illegal.
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The ACLU agreed. In a phone interview Monday, Carol Rose, executive director of the ACLU of Massachusetts, told The Atlantic Wire that her organization was in contact with attorneys for the city, state, and the Department of Homeland Security on Friday.
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Under the Fourth Amendment, homeowners have the right to refuse a request for a search if the police don't have a warrant. But that rule has an exception. If there are exigent circumstances, like the threat of imminent danger, a warrant isn't necessarily needed, but the police must still have probable cause.

Are there any links to stories told BY THE PEOPLE whose houses were searched? How did they feel about this? Anyone?