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reply to post by Bleeeeep
Look you are not unique in that you are targeted; everyone is. Most, simply do not recognize that something is wrong, or they misdiagnose it, just as you have. You want a solution? Stop dwelling on it. Your dwelling on it will only make it worse, because you are opening your thoughts to them. When all else fails, pray
reply to post by daskakik
but it doesn't cut it for me because I am aware of experiments like the God Helmet, that works along these same lines or Robert Monroe's work with binaural beats and OBEs, both of which used volunteers so, no, you don't need to randomly target people out of the general populace to accomplish the refining of the technology. You even posted a link to a thread about a human connected and controlling a rat. It is out in the open. There is no need for the clandestine type projects that some propose.
Originally posted by daskakik
reply to post by TheConstruKctionofLight
Of course there are dozens of reasons for clandestine ops but that is not what was being discussed. The question I made was what would be the reason for unconsenting test subjects for the refinement of the tech when consenting test subjects have and are being used.
My goal has been to point out that although the OP meant the thread to be about people who are actual victims of this kind of tech, we are not really in a position to discern who is actually a victim and who is mentally ill. So, this medium has its shortcomings in getting real help to the actual victims and it also fails those who don't need to counter technology but need help with mental health issues. The reason it fails is because there is no way to separate the two.
edit on 26-4-2013 by daskakik because: (no reason given)
It's like being forced to find out who we are by being put through the experience of knowing who we are *not*. And once you know who you are, there is no one or nothing that can take that away from you, unless you willing give it. Re-cognize. Again and again, as much as it takes.
I like to think in one sense we must take responsibility for our state of mind. Even in the face of hardship, we can choose how we face it, how we react. In fact, that may be the only thing we have control over, but that is everything, and really sort of what can set us free.
Originally posted by Unity_99
I think they are honing this technology and practicing/using it alot, and even in dream times now. They want total control. And yet, they don't have any if one starts to consciously work at turning their thoughts around. Its like you struggle for a time, ask for help from Family and work at turning things around or even your whole mood if its been its made leaden and then suddenly the door opens in the midst of the struggles and solutions happen, healing and your frequency raises and you are removed from this. This isn't to blame people, just that having hope and faith and working for remission and help/freedom from these lower frequency controls/assaults is a good thing. I would never give into any form of hijacking of my free will consciousness in waking moments or dream time. I believe the universe is interactive and we have a really Good Competent and Loving Team up there and they can raise anyones frequencies or hit the control switch so the ones doing this are only perceptionally coing things, it doesnt have to work.
Hi daskakik,
Originally posted by daskakik
reply to post by tetra50
My point was that we can't point someone in one direction or the other because there is no way for us to know what kind of help they need.
That is one of the reasons I singled out your request that we suspend disbelief. You pointed out that you had seen members of ATS tell others to seek mental help and that is why you made that request but, for some that is exactly what they need. The catch is that there really is no way for people participating on a forum to know.
edit on 26-4-2013 by daskakik because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by daskakik
reply to post by TheConstruKctionofLight
Of course there are dozens of reasons for clandestine ops but that is not what was being discussed. The question I made was what would be the reason for unconsenting test subjects for the refinement of the tech when consenting test subjects have and are being used.
My goal has been to point out that although the OP meant the thread to be about people who are actual victims of this kind of tech, we are not really in a position to discern who is actually a victim and who is mentally ill. So, this medium has its shortcomings in getting real help to the actual victims and it also fails those who don't need to counter technology but need help with mental health issues. The reason it fails is because there is no way to separate the two.
However, overall my point to you is this: It's been perfected to the point, I believe, that it no longer is just about your mind and thoughts; it may very well be more even than inducement to act. If we have truly become puppets, as this was designed, eventually, to do to the population, at large, then this line will certainly have been crossed.