The shooters have all been Democrats!!!

reply to post by MsAphrodite


That is just too funny to even comment on. The one that cracks me up the most is that political views of the parents of the Columbine shooters somehow caused the shootings. How on Earth could anyone connect political views of parents to be the cause of someone else shooting a gun at people? Please try to rationalize how absurd that sounds.

Since we're in fantasy land now in finding the cause of mass shootings, I'm going to go ahead and indicate that the corrective measures of gun control going forward are probably going to be just as insane as the found cause of shooting people.

Please, for the sake of humanity, worry about yourself and stop pointing the finger at others. Complicating life by thinking your right about things only helps humanity to move backwards. There's a reason the acronym of the famous phrase of 'KISS' ends with the word 'Stupid' and not 'Smartie.'

Get real.

McVeigh used a bomb not a gun.

Koresh and Weaver weren't mass shooters. They got into a shootout with the police at their homes. They didn't wake up that morning thinking that'll be the day they kill somebody.

I have no idea what political party Huberty was, and willing to bet you don't either. His wife did say he hated the United States.


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I don't know whose IQ is smaller.

The one of a person registering himself with a political party, or the one putting this person into a mental "liberal, democrat, republican, leftist, right-wing, socialist" drawer, depending upon the political affiliation of the chosen party. Especially because you could easily register with more than one party, or change your affiliation on a daily base.

I really can't figure that one out, but it's almost a draw I'd say.

Interesting.

The Manchurian Candidate program has selected it's next patsy category.

reply to post by ttobban


i agree completely...what logic box did the OP use to associate political party registration with mass shootings? the reasons for these mass shootings has nothing to do with being a democrat or republican. it's about how mentally unstable ALL of these people were, while also having access to rapid fire weapons with ammo clips that were large, and easy to change out.

The OP-provided information is false in part and selective as well.

First off, the Virginia Tech shooter was a Korean permanent resident of the US, not a citizen; hence, he would not be registered as a voter with any political party in the US.

Second, the newspaper article/letter fails to mention Jared Lee Loughner, the shooter of Gabby Lee Giffords, a Democrat; he is a registered independent. Why wasn't this shooter included in the list or commented on by the OP? PERHAPS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T CONVENIENTLY FIT THE PROFILE THAT IS BEING CLAIMED?

What most all of these shooters have in common are mental problems. They also tend to be from suburban or urban places, and the majority of persons in such areas tend to be registered Democrat.

There's also the fact that there have been any number of other shootings that were not looked into for this supposed statistic/correlation.

Interestingly enough, apparently TIm McVeigh was a registered Democrat.

This guy in Maine, who was killed by his wife, and who had apparently planned on building a dirty bomb -- and had acquired some of the materials -- was not likely a Democrat because he had planned to use the bomb on Obama.

Yes, there have been some famous Democrat shooters, the most prominent being John Wilkes Booth. However since his time the two parties have essentially switched ideological sides. No doubt today JWB would be a registered Republican, as that is the party of the South these days.

All of these multiple shooters also are men. Anyone notice that? Perhaps men shouldn't be allowed to have guns, or maybe there is some vast male conspiracy to do away with gun rights.

For the folks here trying to paint this as some kind of political-based conspiracy or as something in the mental make-up of registered Democrats, please do a comprehensive analysis of all the multiple shootings in the past few years before coming to conclusions.

That said, I could see one explanation if there is a correlation with political party for these shooters: I suspect some/all of the anti-depressants people take make them more violent, and I would hazard to guess that "liberals", Democrats and such are more likely to take such medications than are conservatives and Republicans. This is an honest hypothesis on my part; one can call it stereotyping (that liberals are more likely to take such medications), but I think it is accurate, and I really think there are problems with the psychotropic medications this countries imbibes way too much of.

The lack of serious analysis of this issue is what I find the most striking in this discussion of the epidemic of rage shootings. We've always had guns, but we haven't always had a society pickled on SSRI's (anti-depressants), but don't expect the mainstream corporate media to investigate this angle. I really think this is a more fruitful avenue of investigation rather than the political affiliation of these shooters. Call me kooky if you must.

Originally posted by GreenGlassDoor
I have no idea what political party Huberty was, and willing to bet you don't either. His wife did say he hated the United States.

FYI...That would likely make him a Democrat.

reply to post by SkepticOverlord


Could you clarify this for me? Perhaps supporting evidence?

Seems to be of the same argument as this:



Political affiliation has little to do with these actions and I also seriously doubt that all the shooters have been Democrats. A few examples were given without any proof, just statements.


Also, many people register with one party and vote for another due to the majority of people in their district and wanting to participate in local primaries or even to skew statistics to make it seem that the opposing party is gaining ground. There are various reasons that people around the country use.

This thread should be moved to skunk works where it belongs as it is nothing but sensationalism and a straw man argument.

Originally posted by MsAphrodite
Democrats are the ones who want to make gun ownership illegal

No, no, no. Please don't make statements that generalize an entire group of people. I see so many people on ATS making blanket statements like this without realizing how torpid it makes them seem. Nobody will take anything seriously if you make foolish statements.

I'm a leftist and I support gun ownership.

Originally posted by madmac5150

Originally posted by buster2010
So the Dems use guns. At least they don't cause the property damage like the Republican killers like Timothy McVeigh when they go on a killing spree.

Because the death of innocents is far more acceptable than property damage. Love the logic.

His sarcasm wasn't meant to be taken literally. He was pointing out that there are/were Republican mass murderers too.

I guess not everyone can decipher deadpan humour.

reply to post by MsAphrodite
Ummm...The most telling part of this whole discussion is not so much that the MAJORITY of these individuals are democrats or liberals or progressives and did became mass killers......The most telling part is that they held these political affiliations and beliefs......WHILE AT THE SAME TIME BEING ON SSRI ANTIPSYCHOTROPIC MEDICATION.........Perhaps the real connection is between that ideology and the penchant to be medicated and then have psychotic fugue episodes that lead to murder and suicide.

So if we connect the dots...progressivism, leads to socialism which leads to antipsychotic medication use, (due to unresolved guilt) which then leads to antisocialism and attempts to expunge the indoctrinatorial progressive element...Hence these events taking place primarily in schools and media outlets such as theaters......I mean...who coulda known...........right?

YouSir

Ha- you mean the shadowy neo-con agency that made sure that Obama got re-elected?

Sal

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by Char-Lee

 

I don't suggest it's a conspiracy and it's why I've never wrote anything about it myself. I don't think their political leaning had anything more to do with it than thoughts they were working for some shadowy neo-con agency setting national agenda.

From what I could find in checking into this after it was posted to another site I was at though, the affiliations where they were known, did seem to come out that way. Some will make mountains out of that...but I think it's just one of those interesting quirks life sometimes has with things.

And the people who brought down the twin towers were republicans.

I guess we are even now.

All republicans are smart, all democrats are dumb, all independants are communists, all blacks are lazy, all whites are hard working, all masons are satanists, all americans are arrogant, all europeans are entitlists.

Yeah lets generalise. No thanks!

apparently Dems make better patsies.

This is a ridiculous thread for many reasons. It is based on guesswork - not fact. If you have proof that all the listed shooters were democrats, by all means, provide that proof. A letter in a paper is not proof. It's statistically laughable as well. I'm certain there are probably dozens of shared beliefs such a small # of shooters shared. The premise that simply supporting a political party should automatically roll you into blanket bans for your party based on mere affiliation is dangerous and ludicrous.. and pretty damned stupid.

You'd also need some sort of link to their political affiliation as being the impetus for the shootings. If not, there would be no logical reason to link a ban to their affiliation, whatever it was.

"This nutcase who was hearing voices in his head shot a bunch of people, and because he was a registered Democrat, all Democrats should have their guns taken away." That really doesn't sound incredibly stupid to you people?

I just can't understand why the hell people are here bickering over political parties. Why would ANYONE, besides the politicians themselves, want to be associated with either of those corrupted parties, be it democrat or republican? WHY? What has YOUR party done for YOU? I'll tell you what they've done, same as the party you oppose, not a damn thing. The Dems and Repubs are fv@king the citizens 6 ways to Sunday. This country is in dire straits, and it's because of BOTH parties. And we need to get over that ''conservative'' and ''liberal'' crap because in all actuality, most Americans don't lean extremely to either side. Notice that I said MOST. If there ever was a ''civil war'', we would slaughter each other because THEY have us divided on so many fronts, be it race, party affiliation, or any other trivial bvllsh!# they like to use to divide us. Both parties golf and have dinner and drinks with each other. Those politicians are NOT enemies, they just put on a show for the gullible to believe that they are. Think WWE. Meanwhile, the citizens become real enemies over a dumb ass party affiliation. Old tactics, but apparently, still very successful.

Originally posted by ttobban
reply to post by MsAphrodite

 

That is just too funny to even comment on. The one that cracks me up the most is that political views of the parents of the Columbine shooters somehow caused the shootings. How on Earth could anyone connect political views of parents to be the cause of someone else shooting a gun at people? Please try to rationalize how absurd that sounds.

Since we're in fantasy land now in finding the cause of mass shootings, I'm going to go ahead and indicate that the corrective measures of gun control going forward are probably going to be just as insane as the found cause of shooting people.

Please, for the sake of humanity, worry about yourself and stop pointing the finger at others. Complicating life by thinking your right about things only helps humanity to move backwards. There's a reason the acronym of the famous phrase of 'KISS' ends with the word 'Stupid' and not 'Smartie.'

It is quite easy to do so, and quite well documented as a fact. If a child grows up with both oarents in the kkk, there is an almost 80% chance that child will either join as well, or walk through life with a racist mindset.

Racism is almost gone, thankfully. But that doesnt mean it wasnt real, it was quite real, and motivated many to ki and torture and rape etc....

It is arguably a political ideology, and it is passed down to children by parents.

As wellnas the documented facts that dems parents usually dem children, and repub parents usually raise repub children.

This is all quite well documented in fact, please try to be at least mildly objective in your responses, as throwing arojnd basless claims is well....baseless ajd ignorant.

Here watch I will do it as an example.

Democrats are predominantly idiots, as everything the describe lacks any logic or even a shred of common sense, assuming the .gov needs to control everyone, because in reality, their political mindset is a rorschach test, and shows their true inner thoughts about themselves. They know they cant be trusted to do whats right unless they are made to do so, so they assume everyone else is the same way.

Now it might seem like it makes sensex and even has enough shreds of reality to make it sound possible, maybe even profound and true, but that doesnt turn the steaming pile I just pull out my backside any more valid. It is just a carefully crafted piece, meant to persuade one side to view the other as somehow less human, therefore easier to target, and even kill, as you nonlonger see themnas human, but an obstical to overcome.

Another stone throwing thread. Humans insist on criticizing others in order to feel better about themselves. On ATS this is pretty common and appears to be accepted as bein normal. Threads like this have little credibility and seem more personal than reasonable.

Originally posted by poloblack
I just can't understand why the hell people are here bickering over political parties. Why would ANYONE, besides the politicians themselves, want to be associated with either of those corrupted parties, be it democrat or republican? WHY? What has YOUR party done for YOU? I'll tell you what they've done, same as the party you oppose, not a damn thing. The Dems and Repubs are fv@king the citizens 6 ways to Sunday. This country is in dire straits, and it's because of BOTH parties. And we need to get over that ''conservative'' and ''liberal'' crap because in all actuality, most Americans don't lean extremely to either side. Notice that I said MOST. If there ever was a ''civil war'', we would slaughter each other because THEY have us divided on so many fronts, be it race, party affiliation, or any other trivial bvllsh!# they like to use to divide us. Both parties golf and have dinner and drinks with each other. Those politicians are NOT enemies, they just put on a show for the gullible to believe that they are. Think WWE. Meanwhile, the citizens become real enemies over a dumb ass party affiliation. Old tactics, but apparently, still very successful.

Agreed. Politics are about buying favors to meet someones agenda. The losers are the lemmings that follow their leaders instead of thinking for themselves.