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posted on May, 11 2003 @ 04:03 PM
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Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf



And you are the only one who can make yourself free. No government in the world can do it for you


Thank you.


That sums it all up. All govornments enslave, that is the purpose of govornment. The question is....to what extent does the population know of thier enslavement?

Govornments are all evil, every last one of them, all govornments are corrupt, shady, shifty, self serving entities. But a necessary evil we live with. So long as the population continues to oppose, or is in perpetual battle with thier gov, then they can at least be contained. Once a population starts trusting and thinking our govornment is good, and cares...thats the path to oblivion.



That is why the NWO can be good, no government, but order is installed. You See????




posted on May, 11 2003 @ 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by Illmatic67
If people really knew what the NWO was about no one would be for it.


nah some would like the non-religous and the mindless people out there

btw this is the 1984th post in here read the book nineteen eighty-four it's a good book, or so i've heard i shud prolly read it



posted on May, 11 2003 @ 08:44 PM
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Originally posted by FoxStriker
Right to bear arms = its going to be soon that we won't be allowed to have guns.
[Edited on 5/11/2003 by FoxStriker]


What would YOU need a gun for? So those evil terrorists would not be able to invade your house???


Please give me a valid reason why an average citizen might need a GUN to protect themselves. Do you actually think guns do anything? NO. Obviously you do not see what guns do. They create fear, hatred, and ignorance. Think about it.



posted on May, 11 2003 @ 09:27 PM
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Please give me a valid reason why an average citizen might need a GUN to protect themselves. Do you actually think guns do anything? NO. Obviously you do not see what guns do. They create fear, hatred, and ignorance. Think about it. Posted by the Catalyst

"If you carry a gun, people will call you paranoid. Thats ridiculous. If I have a gun, what in the hell do I have to be paranoid about?"
Clint Smith, Director, Thunder Ranch

www.thunderranchinc.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

The reason we still have any sembalance of democracy and freedom is because the general population has access to guns. This is the one and only reason that the Cabal has not yet attempted to shut things down (although technology and public opinion methods are in the pipeline to change that).

I would say that your statement proves that you have never been in a situation where you had the choice to defend yourself or die.



posted on May, 12 2003 @ 12:24 AM
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The NWO is not bad itself. But the power that it gives to certain people is bad. It can lead to horrible things.



posted on May, 12 2003 @ 10:49 AM
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i m not of course



posted on May, 12 2003 @ 11:37 AM
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Originally posted by dragonrider

The reason we still have any sembalance of democracy and freedom is because the general population has access to guns. This is the one and only reason that the Cabal has not yet attempted to shut things down (although technology and public opinion methods are in the pipeline to change that).




How true that is. So much propaganda designed to make us think how much better things would be if only the criminals had guns. It seems that since the socialist party lost footing that Gun control has been placed on the back burner but that is the hitch. Thats the kicker. No one will dare try to enslave an armed America. Even non-military weapons in the hands of people fighting for their freedom is a worthy adversary.

I think one reason is the re-tasking of the CIA, FBI, and ATF from its decade long crusade to disarm America toward the real threat of terrorism. Funny what can happen when you spend too many resouces targeting your own population. It didn't take long for the lack of attention to let something really bad happen.

Gun control is hitting what you're aiming at!



posted on May, 12 2003 @ 11:40 AM
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Originally posted by astrocreep

Gun control is hitting what you're aiming at!


It is also the use of two hands.



posted on May, 12 2003 @ 12:33 PM
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I think Dragonrider and Astrocreep summed it all up for me. Thanx dragon and astro.

As for the NWO not being a government. How the hell can the NWO not be a government is my question. look at the facts on how they operate.

The NWO members we will have to face in the future aren't soldiers, its politicians and government officials.



posted on May, 16 2003 @ 04:09 AM
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Why do Americans (not all, I'll grant you) seem to have this incredible desire and necessity to own firearms? I think it was dragonrider who said that is the only reason why democracy remains in the US. But if people didn't have guns, they would feel no need to use them. It's a pretty screwed up system if a person doesn't feel safe in their homes without a gun- but if everyone has them, obviously everyone else will feel the need to as well out of pure fear. Don't you think the reason there's so much gun crime in the States is just because THEY'RE SO DAMN EASY TO GET THAT ANYONE CAN OWN ONE! It's no wonder things are as screwed up as they are when you can buy a gun before you can drink a beer...



posted on May, 16 2003 @ 04:12 AM
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And you really think that hiding away in a shack in the woods sleeping with your shotgun waiting for an invasion is going to work? If the US was invaded then what difference would a few rednecks crawling out of the woodwork make?



posted on May, 16 2003 @ 01:29 PM
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Originally posted by Oisin
Why do Americans (not all, I'll grant you) seem to have this incredible desire and necessity to own firearms? I think it was dragonrider who said that is the only reason why democracy remains in the US. But if people didn't have guns, they would feel no need to use them. It's a pretty screwed up system if a person doesn't feel safe in their homes without a gun- but if everyone has them, obviously everyone else will feel the need to as well out of pure fear. Don't you think the reason there's so much gun crime in the States is just because THEY'RE SO DAMN EASY TO GET THAT ANYONE CAN OWN ONE! It's no wonder things are as screwed up as they are when you can buy a gun before you can drink a beer...



Thank you.......someone with some heart and a little bit of head too. Guns don't keep us free, soliders do. This gun glory in America is just that glory. Nothing more nothing less. Guns kill, they don't free. No gun has ever given me freedom. No gun has ever given me a choice. No gun has ever saved my life. So what do we need guns for???

For protection. Nothing more, nothing less. Yes I understand that guns are useful, but we need not guns that can rip through bulletproof vests. These only get good cops killed.



posted on May, 16 2003 @ 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by FoxStriker
I think Dragonrider and Astrocreep summed it all up for me. Thanx dragon and astro.

As for the NWO not being a government. How the hell can the NWO not be a government is my question. look at the facts on how they operate.

The NWO members we will have to face in the future aren't soldiers, its politicians and government officials.




How can the NWO NOT be a government???

Well they could be like the UN or Interpol.


You See????



posted on May, 20 2003 @ 11:39 PM
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What do you think the nwo life
will be like.
The country still has to run.
Opportunity to succeed must still
exist. We all can't just sit at home
doing nothing.

There must still be a job market,
and opportunities to profit from
entrepreneurship.

What have they won if they destroy
the fabrics of society, and we are just
brain dead, unaware slaves?



posted on May, 20 2003 @ 11:49 PM
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Originally posted by Oisin
Why do Americans (not all, I'll grant you) seem to have this incredible desire and necessity to own firearms?


Excellent question. One that I have been unable to answer. More then likely, it is due to something they are missing in their....private life. The fact of the matter is, that other Democracies which do not rely on their citizens possessing guns (Canada, the U.K.) have lower crime rates.

Oh, you'll get some communist Republican that will walk into this thread, tears streaming down his red white and blue face, heralding gun ownership as the greatest thing since Billy Ray Cyrus picked up a guitar...but really, anyone can pull "slanted" statistics out....the real proof is when you go to these countries and see for yourself how things operate.

Spent a summer in England once, beautiful place. There was a huge fight across from the hotel I was staying at...a "bobby" whacked this guy over the head so bad he had to be taken out on a stretcher.

Now that is what *I* call crowd control. No guns needed.



posted on May, 23 2003 @ 07:11 AM
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Jesus, someone finally agreeing with me, cheers mate! Admittedly gun crime is on the rise in the UK (I blame those crazy kids with their hop-hip music...) but this is due to the same influences on crime you get everywhere, poverty, lack of education, poor social infrastructure, isolated communities etc etc. At least we haven't gone too far down the road of vigilante justice that is being seen elsewhere. It's like anything else- blood will have blood, building more roads will mean people will own more cars, and owning a gun to protect yourself will only give you an opportunity to use it, and considcering most people have neither the intelligence nor the common sense to know when that is, how cvan it be a good thing? You wouldn't let someone drive a car or operate machinery without a licence, but even a child can operate a gun, all it comes to is pointing one end at the thing you want to die and pressing a button. It's not even like there's that much involved on an emoptional level- if you have to fight soneone off with your fists or even a knife, you know you're doing it, it affects you. Guns are an easy and automatic way of eliminating a target, and by their very nature make the user detatched to their use, because it's easy, trivial, and normal to do so. It's a screwed up situation, and a damn shame.



posted on May, 24 2003 @ 09:24 PM
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Originally posted by Oisin
I think it was dragonrider who said that is the only reason why democracy remains in the US.


Um...sorry to disappoint(?) you Oisin, but the U.S. isn't a Democracy, and I don't believe it ever HAS been. A "Democractic"-Republic? Perhaps. But an all out Democracy? Bah! Lies! Hoobalangistic lies!

America isn't a Democracy, and probably never will be, at the rate we're going.

As for Americans feeling they (meaning we, since I'm American...though I don't fall into this category) need to own guns, it's because we're all a bunch of idiots who think that being able to shoot somebody and kill them is a terribly difficult feat (physically, anyway. We all know it's difficult emotionally...for sane people).
That's one thing I hate about living in Oklahoma/redneck Capitol - if you don't drink all the time, go huntin' and fishin', then you're a wuss (for lack of a few words..hehe). I'd be much more impressed if you hunted with a sharpened stick, with your body painted in greens and black



posted on May, 26 2003 @ 10:24 AM
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That was a quote from someone else, I never said America was a democracy, hell I don't think democracy works anywhere let alone in the states.



posted on May, 26 2003 @ 10:32 AM
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How can you support something if you don't even know it exists? Or, if it exists, what it's plans are?

The question should be "Does the concept of NWO appeal to you?".
Then you've got to explain what that concept is and what it means to you in the context of your question.

For those of us who see the NWO as a shadowy, demonic figure sitting in the wings, waiting to suck the life blood out of us, the answer is always going to be no.

For those who believe that the NWO is nothing sinister, but rather a guide to a better future, the answer is always going to be yes.

But ultimately the question is as relevant as asking "Do you like alien life forms?".

You don't know wether it exists and you don't know what it is doing. There are those here who will claim otherwise, but I have yet to see the proof to back up their claims.



posted on May, 26 2003 @ 10:41 AM
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True, true. Never thought of it like that. Obviously many people would consider the new world order to be and entail as a very bad thing but on the other hand this is all conspiracy crap anyway and by the time we find out what is going on everything is always changed so that people have no idea what is going on. Look at history, the past is gone and shouldn't logistically be possible to change but it happens everyday, to the extent that by the time anyone works out what all these shady goings on in back rooms of government actually are, they'll already be implemented and no-one will be able to tell the difference.





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