Anybody Pro-NWO here?

Originally posted by astrocreep

Gun control is hitting what you're aiming at!

It is also the use of two hands.

I think Dragonrider and Astrocreep summed it all up for me. Thanx dragon and astro.

As for the NWO not being a government. How the hell can the NWO not be a government is my question. look at the facts on how they operate.

The NWO members we will have to face in the future aren't soldiers, its politicians and government officials.

Why do Americans (not all, I'll grant you) seem to have this incredible desire and necessity to own firearms? I think it was dragonrider who said that is the only reason why democracy remains in the US. But if people didn't have guns, they would feel no need to use them. It's a pretty screwed up system if a person doesn't feel safe in their homes without a gun- but if everyone has them, obviously everyone else will feel the need to as well out of pure fear. Don't you think the reason there's so much gun crime in the States is just because THEY'RE SO DAMN EASY TO GET THAT ANYONE CAN OWN ONE! It's no wonder things are as screwed up as they are when you can buy a gun before you can drink a beer...

And you really think that hiding away in a shack in the woods sleeping with your shotgun waiting for an invasion is going to work? If the US was invaded then what difference would a few rednecks crawling out of the woodwork make?

Originally posted by Oisin
Why do Americans (not all, I'll grant you) seem to have this incredible desire and necessity to own firearms? I think it was dragonrider who said that is the only reason why democracy remains in the US. But if people didn't have guns, they would feel no need to use them. It's a pretty screwed up system if a person doesn't feel safe in their homes without a gun- but if everyone has them, obviously everyone else will feel the need to as well out of pure fear. Don't you think the reason there's so much gun crime in the States is just because THEY'RE SO DAMN EASY TO GET THAT ANYONE CAN OWN ONE! It's no wonder things are as screwed up as they are when you can buy a gun before you can drink a beer...

Thank you.......someone with some heart and a little bit of head too. Guns don't keep us free, soliders do. This gun glory in America is just that glory. Nothing more nothing less. Guns kill, they don't free. No gun has ever given me freedom. No gun has ever given me a choice. No gun has ever saved my life. So what do we need guns for???

For protection. Nothing more, nothing less. Yes I understand that guns are useful, but we need not guns that can rip through bulletproof vests. These only get good cops killed.

Originally posted by FoxStriker
I think Dragonrider and Astrocreep summed it all up for me. Thanx dragon and astro.

As for the NWO not being a government. How the hell can the NWO not be a government is my question. look at the facts on how they operate.

The NWO members we will have to face in the future aren't soldiers, its politicians and government officials.

How can the NWO NOT be a government???

Well they could be like the UN or Interpol.


You See????

What do you think the nwo life
will be like.
The country still has to run.
Opportunity to succeed must still
exist. We all can't just sit at home
doing nothing.

There must still be a job market,
and opportunities to profit from
entrepreneurship.

What have they won if they destroy
the fabrics of society, and we are just
brain dead, unaware slaves?

Originally posted by Oisin
Why do Americans (not all, I'll grant you) seem to have this incredible desire and necessity to own firearms?

Excellent question. One that I have been unable to answer. More then likely, it is due to something they are missing in their....private life. The fact of the matter is, that other Democracies which do not rely on their citizens possessing guns (Canada, the U.K.) have lower crime rates.

Oh, you'll get some communist Republican that will walk into this thread, tears streaming down his red white and blue face, heralding gun ownership as the greatest thing since Billy Ray Cyrus picked up a guitar...but really, anyone can pull "slanted" statistics out....the real proof is when you go to these countries and see for yourself how things operate.

Spent a summer in England once, beautiful place. There was a huge fight across from the hotel I was staying at...a "bobby" whacked this guy over the head so bad he had to be taken out on a stretcher.

Now that is what *I* call crowd control. No guns needed.

Jesus, someone finally agreeing with me, cheers mate! Admittedly gun crime is on the rise in the UK (I blame those crazy kids with their hop-hip music...) but this is due to the same influences on crime you get everywhere, poverty, lack of education, poor social infrastructure, isolated communities etc etc. At least we haven't gone too far down the road of vigilante justice that is being seen elsewhere. It's like anything else- blood will have blood, building more roads will mean people will own more cars, and owning a gun to protect yourself will only give you an opportunity to use it, and considcering most people have neither the intelligence nor the common sense to know when that is, how cvan it be a good thing? You wouldn't let someone drive a car or operate machinery without a licence, but even a child can operate a gun, all it comes to is pointing one end at the thing you want to die and pressing a button. It's not even like there's that much involved on an emoptional level- if you have to fight soneone off with your fists or even a knife, you know you're doing it, it affects you. Guns are an easy and automatic way of eliminating a target, and by their very nature make the user detatched to their use, because it's easy, trivial, and normal to do so. It's a screwed up situation, and a damn shame.

Originally posted by Oisin
I think it was dragonrider who said that is the only reason why democracy remains in the US.

Um...sorry to disappoint(?) you Oisin, but the U.S. isn't a Democracy, and I don't believe it ever HAS been. A "Democractic"-Republic? Perhaps. But an all out Democracy? Bah! Lies! Hoobalangistic lies!
America isn't a Democracy, and probably never will be, at the rate we're going.

As for Americans feeling they (meaning we, since I'm American...though I don't fall into this category) need to own guns, it's because we're all a bunch of idiots who think that being able to shoot somebody and kill them is a terribly difficult feat (physically, anyway. We all know it's difficult emotionally...for sane people).
That's one thing I hate about living in Oklahoma/redneck Capitol - if you don't drink all the time, go huntin' and fishin', then you're a wuss (for lack of a few words..hehe). I'd be much more impressed if you hunted with a sharpened stick, with your body painted in greens and black

That was a quote from someone else, I never said America was a democracy, hell I don't think democracy works anywhere let alone in the states.

How can you support something if you don't even know it exists? Or, if it exists, what it's plans are?

The question should be "Does the concept of NWO appeal to you?".
Then you've got to explain what that concept is and what it means to you in the context of your question.

For those of us who see the NWO as a shadowy, demonic figure sitting in the wings, waiting to suck the life blood out of us, the answer is always going to be no.

For those who believe that the NWO is nothing sinister, but rather a guide to a better future, the answer is always going to be yes.

But ultimately the question is as relevant as asking "Do you like alien life forms?".

You don't know wether it exists and you don't know what it is doing. There are those here who will claim otherwise, but I have yet to see the proof to back up their claims.

True, true. Never thought of it like that. Obviously many people would consider the new world order to be and entail as a very bad thing but on the other hand this is all conspiracy crap anyway and by the time we find out what is going on everything is always changed so that people have no idea what is going on. Look at history, the past is gone and shouldn't logistically be possible to change but it happens everyday, to the extent that by the time anyone works out what all these shady goings on in back rooms of government actually are, they'll already be implemented and no-one will be able to tell the difference.