Anybody Pro-NWO here?

Originally posted by Oisin
by the time we find out what is going on everything is always changed so that people have no idea what is going on.

That doesn't mean that you can't assume it is there. And it also doesn't mean that you can't try to influence it.
It's your choice dude.

No obviously it probably isn't and never will be, just trying to be objective.

Originally posted by Oisin
No obviously it probably isn't and never will be, just trying to be objective.

I'm not knocking you dude. I honestly believe that it's down to you to make your own mind up.
If you've come to the conclusion that it doesn't exist then that's cool for you. Just make sure that you're happy with that belief.

But in the same vein, don't close the door on the idea. If it does exist (in whatever form) and you just convinced yourself that it doesn't, you could have just lost your chance to make a difference.

I don't want to make a difference! This may sound heartless and cruel and downright selfish buit I couldn't give a toss what kind of world I leave after me when I'm gone. If only I'd had children maybe this'd all be different...

As for the question of guns earlier. What the hell are you talking about.

You need guns for protection. If you are dumb enough to think that you are safe because of soldiers, then your're dumb enough to kill yourself.

Tell me this, if its stupid to have guns, then why not strip our military of guns and our law inforcement.

Think before you post. You may not be able to see it now because your fat and happy, but life wont allways be that way. What if one day you house is taken over by robbers and hold your wife with a knife. I bet you would want a gun.

Guns don't kill people, Idiots with guns kill people.

The reason our American Fathers put that common citizens should be allowed to have guns is to always make sure that the government would never suppress its people. If you think people shouldn't have a gun, then you blindly have to much faith in people.

I wasn't trying to bash guns, just the fools that operate them. Many people kept declaring that guns keep them safe and give them freedom, when in fact that is not the case. It is the person behind the gun that gives one freedom. So in other words the solider is the freedom giver, not the firearm that he holds. For without the solider, there would be no gun to operate.

All I was trying to preach was that the freedom giver is the solider not his gun.



You See???

What if one day the soldier turns on you. Guns (in the hands of responsible people) are used in "What If" situations.

I don't like guns!!! but you know as well as I do that guns aren't safe in anybodys hands except our own.

Kinda works like M.A.D situation that happened during the cold war, Russia had nukes and so did the US, but no one fired because it would have been stupid to do so.

[Edited on 5/27/2003 by FoxStriker]

In reference to weapons, its amazing to me that you two (A-V and Oison) can sleep through the reasons why weapons are a necessity and then snortle awake to ask the inane question that had just been answered.

As far as how can the NWO not be a government, if it is the power that controls the governments, then it isn't a government.

I am glad their gone, I got tired of them spray painting peoples back with NWO and....oh, you mean a different NWO, sorry

Guns: Love them. Hate them. Love them when they are respected. Hate them when they are misused.

Soliders: Love them. Hate them. Love them when they show respect. Hate them when they misuse their authority.

NWO: Love them. Hate them. Love them when they show respect. Hate them when they misuse their power.

Can my statements get anymore elementary???


Now please folks, let us forget about guns and start talking NWO.



Abraham

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well said helen you all belive that one ruler and one costution to govern the world so i guess that means one religion one race one of everything no choices no freedom and those who dont comply will be dealt with, today i saw on the news they have started putting micro chips into newborns...........they need to know when where and who you are so they can pull you up for doing something youre not having a joint having a beer having fun anything thats making you feel good everybody will suspect everyone and trust no-one secret societys will be born but there will be no power for the people........taking away power so that the peoplecant fight back is one step the nwo originated in england or europe we have had the longest running monarchy ever no revolutions no weapons. I think america will be the hardest to over run and they know this an assasination of a president or something big will have to be done so that the government can a good excus to get all handguns pulled in from the public just wotch people 2012 is when the world is predicted to end by nostradmus but wotdid he mean world as we know it all rights and freedom? i think so ive never heard anything good of nwo globalisation etc etc and i like facts from both sides so if its soooo good why cant i find them...........EDUCATE YOURSELF AND ONE DAY WE WILL FIGHT THE REVOLUTION TOGETHER....the world hates muslims we have painted them bad ive sat thinking why do i not like them? because they have oil or 911 or because of skin colour but i really dont know just one conclusion....ive been brain washed lol sounds stupid you ask yourself when the world has been rid of muslims what catagory is next black white fat chineese russian or will it be religion there are sooo many diffrent issues with this it would just be a whole mass genocide the possibilities are endless. Wotch www.zeitgeist.com then go from there on a journey of self educating yourself. and ask why are there sooo many coincidences pointing to this why is it that all the conspiracy theory point to one thing and not just since 911 but since the eygytian times thats like 2000bc

If anyone reads this please absorb what I write.
Ever re read 1984 by George Orwell? The difference in that book, as opposed to the NWO agenda, is that there are 3 distinct authorities left on the world. What seems clear today is that the NWO aims to create 1 power. And as for the health of earth and the environment? It is a completely feasible prediction that mass genocide will occur upon people who are deemed undesirable or worthless, in other words they are another mouth to feed and one less bag of garbage. It is true that humanity requires a workforce, but definitely not 7 billion people, a few dozen million would be substantial. This raises the question of how this 1 authority plans to rise to power and when it will happen, because there is no doubt in my mind that the elite plan to create a new world.

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One person can be smart, but people in general are stupid. Too stupid to rule themselves. The sad fact is that we need a dictatorship of smart people to make the tough decisions. The means to the end are debatable, but I have no philosophical objections to the current NWO agenda.

For example, society has been built on non-renewable resources, yet people are still breeding like rabbits (generally the lower socio-economic areas) and wasting resources on unproductive pursuits of consumption and materialism. Lifestyles are totally unsustainable. Even without any sinister plot there will be a future famine and mass depopulation.

Also, look at how education is treated. Any child who strives for academic achievement is ostracized by his/her peers and this continues through adulthood. Thinkers, dreamers and innovators are punished while pointless sportsmen and talentless pop icons are worshiped.

Let's face it, the average person is already just a dumb slave with no ambition apart from breeding and being entertained like a child. Do such creatures deserve to pollute the world and consume the resources that could be better used for higher pursuits? Imagine medical technology allowing prolonged life, cybernetic technology allowing incredible mental abilities, and space flight technology that could one day enable us to explore the universe and colonize other planets.

Humans can be so much better than they are. The modern world has had the opportunity to do this on its own, but it has chosen the path of decadent self destruction. Bring on the new world order.

THe only good thing I can think about the NWO is that eventually it will breed a society of complete honesty. It will be forced honesty, but honesty nonetheless.
However, this in no way means that I actually want a global fascist dictatorship running my life. I'd rather fight to the death than see those selfish pricks fulfill their goals.

[edit on 7/2/2009 by Mr Foster]

Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

And you are the only one who can make yourself free. No government in the world can do it for you

Thank you.

That sums it all up. All govornments enslave, that is the purpose of govornment. The question is....to what extent does the population know of thier enslavement?

Govornments are all evil, every last one of them, all govornments are corrupt, shady, shifty, self serving entities. But a necessary evil we live with. So long as the population continues to oppose, or is in perpetual battle with thier gov, then they can at least be contained. Once a population starts trusting and thinking our govornment is good, and cares...thats the path to oblivion.

Originally posted by FoxStriker

All those who deny you the right to information are not to be trusted, because trust is based on honest information, so how can you trust an organization who has kept secret information for the last 300-400 years.

See this my main problem. What are people using as a definition for the new world order. Is it a secret luciferian masterplan or a political pooling of power, or, or, or...

There is so much conspiracy that I struggle to find what the (real) new world order actually consists of. The common conception of control the masses for ultimate power only seems to make sense if the end game has some supernatural conclusion, otherwise what is the point of it all?

I am all for the next phase of energy existance. THE REVELATION

Originally posted by quango
Just wondering, any NWO fans here?

If the PRO NWO means, Purge, Ruin and Overturn the NWO, yup, definitely.

I Am in favor of eliminating Individual Nations/Flags and National Anthems and form a Global Community , with socialist, green and humanitarian ideals ...

Utopia basically ..

of course .. mission impossible .. but one can dream ..

the NWO isn't so bad, just the part where it's so accurate to orwell's 1984 that they should start putting that book in the nonfiction part of the library.

besides the constant monitoring, the microchipping, the "need for depopulation" ie lab made viruses, and war, then it's pretty peaceful.

but ben franklin said "those who sacrafice liberty for security deserve neither and end up losing both."

with peace comes a price. and that price is freedom.

unless your buddhist. :-P