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I've been getting aggravated lately because gun owners are looking like their some sort of criminal if they own a "military style assault weapon."
Emailed both of my Senator's about gun control.
Originally posted by Hopechest
Do you believe the second amendment gives you access to any and all weapons?
If not how do you justify regulation in some cases but not others. How do you decide where you draw the line?
Originally posted by Lingweenie
reply to post by cartenz
Actually, yeah a "terrorist" would be the better word to use. The word terrorist has been getting beat into our heads for 13 years now. Wouldn't be surprised if the yuppies in MSM will start calling gun owners terrorists.
Originally posted by Hopechest
reply to post by Lingweenie
I understand but what are you basing this claim on?
The Constitution, the second amendment, or personal opinion?
If its personal opinion you certainly have a right to that but so do the other people who believe they are not needed. A pistol to AR-15 to grenade launcher is a matter of degree only.
Since the second amendment leaves regulation of weaponry up to the Congress I don't think we can claim to know what the Founders intention was. If they knew they would have been more specific.
Originally posted by Hopechest
Do you believe the second amendment gives you access to any and all weapons?
If not how do you justify regulation in some cases but not others. How do you decide where you draw the line?
Originally posted by Hopechest
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Oh I believe far more than that should be legal, I'm just arguing the point that it was left unclear what is and is not acceptable. The framers intentionally left it to be debated by Congress according to what they feel their era needs. This is why there were not specific.
Originally posted by Hopechest
reply to post by Lingweenie
So what your saying is that we should have similar weaponry such as land mines, tanks, fighter jets, grenade launchers, biological weapons and so on?
AR-15's hardly put us on equal footing with the military. And I've studied all of the writings of the Founders and I cannot recall them mentioning we should be on equal ground with the military. I believe their thinking was that an armed populace would be equal simply due to their massive numbers.
The government is not as apt to pass detrimental legislation if they know there are 100 million guns, even pistols, being aimed at them.
The number of guns aimed at them wouldn't matter. A average citizen can't keep up with a highly trained soldier.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by Lingweenie
The number of guns aimed at them wouldn't matter. A average citizen can't keep up with a highly trained soldier.
Newsflash.. millions of us are former "highly trained soldiers", secondly, if It were not for the surge we would have been beat in Iraq by average citizens with weapons. Lastly, a certain percentage of the military would side with the populace against a tyrannical government. Remember, a soldier's oath is to defend the country from all enemies, foreign..
AND domestic.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by Hopechest
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Oh I believe far more than that should be legal, I'm just arguing the point that it was left unclear what is and is not acceptable. The framers intentionally left it to be debated by Congress according to what they feel their era needs. This is why there were not specific.
They were specific, they said the right shall not be infringed. And single shot rifles would be the AR they are trying to ban.
edit on 17-2-2013 by NOTurTypical because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by Lingweenie
I didn't say the AR should be banned.