Meteorite Crashes in Russia

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by DangerDeath

 

One of the best examples is Starship Troopers by Heinlein.

Yes. I actually read the book but it doesn't seem you have. You should. The movie stunk.

What does that have to do with any of what you have just scrawled?

One of my favorite things about that book was the construct for society and qualifications for citizenship. I think it made a lot of sense.

The movie stunk the book and the movie didn’t really have anything to do with each other.

Originally posted by JimOberg

Originally posted by rigel4
A meteor and asteroid: Really improbable
The probability that a meteor hits and an asteroid passes by Earth on the same day is about 1 in 100 million, a Yale professor says.

With odds like that it makes Nuclear war an odds on favourite by comparison.

Which Yale professor, please?

A lot meteorites hit the planet per year (estimates are about 37,000 - 78,000 tons/year, that is a lot of rock lol)... its just matter of size. He must be counting the fact that this russian one was a special one because of its size.

reply to post by blackcube

That criterion would obviate any correlation at all. Why would it have to be an extremely large meteor associated with the asteroid rather than a typical fireball?

Nonsensical probability calculation. But I really don't think any Yale professor was involved anyway.

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H Dear Intrptr,

I sincerelty think the hypothesis of the connection in between the big asteroid that has approached the earth in the last month and this meteorite falling in south western Siberia is indeed interesting and deservers a more carefully analysis.

However what really is intriguing the Scientific comunity about the incident of the small Asteroid that fell the Friday in the south east Ural region ( the NASA has confirmed today that it was actually a small asteroid and not a meteorite due to the size and mass of the object) is that is the second important even of this nature occurring in Siberia after the so called Tunguska event of june 1908.

Although this asteroid is not of the same magnitude of the one that caused the terrible esplosion of 1908, however is quite interesting the coincidence.

In the centenary of the Tunguska event on my thread of 2008, I posted the hypothesis that there is a giant vortex of energy that covers vast areas of Siberia, some kind of Bermuda triangle on the russian Taiga, something that has been supported by some Russian archaelogists along the last decade. Based on that assumption I predicted that we were going to experience another incident like the original one few years after that centenary, as it actually happened this Friday.

In my original forecast I stated that this event was going to change gradually the opinion in the scientific circles that Tunguska was not an isolated or accidental case but part of a phenomenon that is periodic and so repeats in the same region every certain time.

Of course, to see another really megatonic explosion, like the one of 1908, probably we have to wait a lot of more time, as I also pointed in that occasion.

www.abovetopsecret.com...


Thanks,

The Angel of Lightness

Originally posted by The angel of light

I posted the hypothesis that there is a giant vortex of energy that covers vast areas of Siberia, some kind of Bermuda triangle on the russian Taiga, something that has been supported by some Russian archaelogists along the last decade.

I've been thinking about this also. What do you think about the possibility of large underground magnetite (and other) resources in that area, a natural occurrence that could explain 'the attraction' ?

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To be honest I am not sure about all the Bermuda Triangle in Siberia thing? But I appreciate your reply and thanks for the read from your thread by Carl Sagan.

It might be a good idea for us to understand comets and collisions and catastrophes a little better than we do.

Carl Sagan, from his book Cosmos, Heaven and Hell

Originally posted by whyamIhere

The hole doesn't look quite right to me.

(saying this like I know what the hell the hole should look like)

It looks so perfect... Explanation Please?

Not trying to pat myself on the back but on page 3...

I pointed out it was fairly obvious something coming at that angle did not make that hole.

Carry on...

Some interesting Chelyabinsk facts... The 'unluckiest' place on earth?

The stats just keep getting weirder for this incident.

The tiny asteroid / meteorite exploded over / fell upon the Chelyabinsk region of Russia. This region was a state secret nuclear complex for more than 40 years and has had many radioactive incidents. It was built by Gulag inmates. Reportedly more than 400,000 people irradiated in 45 years.

''Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, she walks into mine.''

Meteor explodes over Chelyabinsk

Meteor explodes over Russian city of Chelyabinsk with force of more than 30 Hiroshima A-bombs The Friday morning explosion that injured 1,200 residents with its blast shockwave was caused by a 10,000-ton fireball that burned brighter than the sun as it unleashed nearly 500 kilotons of energy over Russia's Urals region. Read more: www.nydailynews.com...

Chelyabinsk-the most polluted spot on the planet

In the late 1940's, about 80 kilometers north of the city of Chelyabinsk, an atomic weapons complex called "Mayak" was built. Its existence has only recently been acknowledged by Russian officials. Mayak, bordered to the west by the Ural Mountains, and to the north by Siberia, was the goal of Gary Powers's surveillance flight in May of 1960. For forty-five years, the Chelyabinsk province of Russia was closed to all foreigners. Only in January of 1992 did President Boris Yeltsin sign a decree changing that. As a result, western scientists who studied the region, declared Chelyabinsk to be the most polluted spot on earth.

Chelyabinsk / Mayak

The Mayak Production Association (Russian: Производственное объединение «Маяк», from Маяк "lighthouse") is an industrial complex which is one of the biggest nuclear facilities in the Russian Federation. It housed plutonium production reactors and a reprocessing plant. Located 150 km south-east of Ekaterinburg between the towns of Kasli and Tatysh 72 km northwest of Chelyabinsk, the closest city to the nuclear complex is Ozyorsk, the central administrative territorial district. As part of the Russian nuclear weapon program, Mayak was formerly known as Chelyabinsk-40 and later as Chelyabinsk-65 after the postal codes of the site.[1] In 1957, Mayak was the site of one of the worst nuclear accidents in history when the explosion of a poorly maintained storage tank released 50-100 tonnes of high-level radioactive waste, contaminating a huge territory in the eastern Urals and causing numerous deaths and injuries from radiation poisoning. The Soviet regime kept this accident secret for about 30 years. The event was eventually rated at 6 on the seven-level INES scale, third in severity only to the disasters at Chernobyl in the Ukraine and Fukushima in Japan. Working conditions at Mayak, and a lack of environmental responsibility in the past, led to additional contamination of the surrounding lake district and severe health hazards and accidents. Some areas are still under restricted access because of radiation. In the past 45 years, about 400,000 people in the region have been irradiated in one or more of the incidents.[2] Mayak was a target of Gary Powers' U-2 surveillance flight in May 1960

The Mayak plant was built in 1945–48, in a great hurry and in total secrecy, as part of the Soviet Union's nuclear weapon program. The plant's original mission was to make, refine, and machine plutonium for weapons. Five nuclear reactors were built for this purpose. Later the plant came to specialize in reprocessing spent nuclear fuel from nuclear reactors, and plutonium from decommissioned weapons. Today the plant makes tritium and radioisotopes, but no plutonium. In recent years, proposals that the plant reprocess, for money, waste from foreign nuclear reactors have given rise to controversy. In the early years of its operation, the Mayak plant released quantities of radioactively contaminated water into several small lakes near the plant, and into the Techa river, whose waters ultimately flow into the Ob River. The downstream consequences of this radiation pollution have yet to be determined. Some residents of Ozersk claim that living there poses no present-day risk, because of the decrease in the ambient radiation level over the past 50 years.[citation needed] They also report no problems with their health and the health of Mayak plant workers.[citation needed] However, these claims lack hard verification, and many who worked at the plant in 1950s and 1960s subsequently died of the effects of radiation.[5][6] While the situation has since improved, the administration of the Mayak plant has been repeatedly criticized in recent years for environmentally unsound practices.[citation needed]

Chelyabinsk the most polluted spot on earth - the movie

reply to post by whyamIhere


Me too and I was ridiculed for it.

The weapon the russians thought we were testing was one that draws meteors to the earth controls them to a specific target.

I wish we had such capabilities. I would land one on a certain house while a certain family was home that is for sure.

Videoregistrar www.ural56.ru... relatively immobile glass www.youtube.com... who writes about the spray on them ugh ugh again

Wow, sic video

www.guardian.co.uk...

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continued post remember this www.youtube.com...?

reply to post by whyamIhere

I pointed out it was fairly obvious something coming at that angle did not make that hole.

What angle would that be?

Originally posted by nOraKat
Wow, sic video

www.guardian.co.uk...

Sic transit gloria mundi?

Great compilation, by the way.

Originally posted by Grimpachi

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by DangerDeath

 

One of the best examples is Starship Troopers by Heinlein.

Yes. I actually read the book but it doesn't seem you have. You should. The movie stunk.

What does that have to do with any of what you have just scrawled?

One of my favorite things about that book was the construct for society and qualifications for citizenship.

What, you didn't like the nuclear-tipped RPG and how the giant bugs farted hot plasma?

reply to post by Phage


Editor's note: Meg Urry is the Israel Munson professor of physics and astronomy and chairwoman of the department of physics at Yale University, where she is the director of the Yale Center for Astronomy and Astrophysics.

She does seem to be quite well qualified to make such a statement ...yes

All this fuss about a little iron ball!
I can't wait until March 10th when a new thread will be bound to start about something completely different.
Except it might have a lot of little iron balls in it....

Originally posted by rigel4
reply to post by Phage

 

Editor's note: Meg Urry is the Israel Munson professor of physics and astronomy and chairwoman of the department of physics at Yale University, where she is the director of the Yale Center for Astronomy and Astrophysics.

She does seem to be quite well qualified to make such a statement ...yes

Here's the statement.

edition.cnn.com...

the chance of both events happening on any one day are indeed very small: 1 in 3,650 days times 1 in 36,500 days, or about 1 in 100 million -- not odds you would bet against.

So what is the probability that the meteor hits and the asteroid passes Earth on the same day when someone could record it on video? That's probably been possible for about 50 years, or only about five years if we have to do it on a smartphone or dashboard camera. That's 1,825 days, which means the chance of someone filming the event is only about one in 70,000 -- and that's if people blanketed the Earth. Given how sparsely the Earth is populated, we should correct this number downward by a (large!) geographical factor. It's also unlikely that this event would happen within 3,000 miles of the Tunguska impact.