posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 03:05 AM
reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by WhoKnows100
And your faulty logic of everyone being a bad tree contradicts reason. If god can be good, then so can we. Why would Jesus tell us to be perfect if we
could never achieve it?
Jesus would ask you, as He did His disciples, "Why do you reason in your heart?". The Truth states that there is no one good except God. The Holy
Spirit declares in 3 John 1.11 that "Anyone who does what is good is from God. Anyone who does what is evil has not seen God." You are being
hypocritical by denying that a bad tree cannot be made good for Paul, yet declaring it is possible for all others by your statement above. Our God is
not an Author of confusion, so therefore the confusion is in your mind, not scripture.
Paul never changed before Jesus supposedly gave him his vision, he only changed after the vision.
With this reasoning, not one has been able to be saved since Jesus' physical death. Can you not sense what your mind is doing? It's grasping at
human arguments to justify your own beliefs, and in the process, you cannot see that you are elevating your truths and not the Truth.
Like I said, why would Jesus choose a tree that was rotten to the core to carry his message? Paul wasn't a changed man until AFTER his
vision, which means Jesus deliberately contradicted himself when he chose Paul.
Where does Jesus contradict himself? Our Father granted my belief nearly 2,000 years after Jesus' death.
You wrote in your thread
"So what changed Paul's mind? Well, apparently he had a vision from Jesus himself telling him to to stop persecuting his followers and to
preach his gospel, claiming that Paul was a "chosen vessel" of god to carry his message."
Acts 9:4 He fell to the ground and heard a voice say to him, "Saul, Saul, why do you persecute ME
Do you understand what He meant? Saul was persecuting Jesus Christ through His followers.
"If this work were of MAN, it would come to NOTHING! But if it be of GOD, then NO man is able to stand against it!--Lest they be found to be
fighting against GOD!
" (Acts 5:38,39).
“Sovereign Lord, as you have promised,
you now dismissd your servant in peace.
For my eyes have seen your salvation,
which you have prepared in the sight of all people,
a light for revelation to the nations
and for glory to your people Israel.”
The child’s father and mother marveled at what was said about him. Then Simeon blessed them and said to Mary, his mother: “This child is destined
to cause the falling and rising of many in Israel, and to be a sign that will be spoken against, so that the thoughts of many hearts will be revealed.
And a sword will pierce your own soul too.” Luke 2:29-35
"I went in response to a revelation and set before them the gospel that I preach among the nations. But I did this privately to those who seemed to
be leaders, for fear that I was running or had run my race in vain." Galatians 2:2
"Make a tree good and its fruit will be good, or make a tree bad and its fruit will be bad, for a tree is recognized by its fruit." Matthew
You must abandon this particular reasoning, for scripture declares that Jesus came for sinners. Is sin good fruit? Of course not. What is evidence of
true conversion? The fruits of the Holy Spirit. Stepping into the Light, we see that all good comes from the One who IS GOOD. Man, without God, does
his own good which is defined solely by himself. Love for God is to obey His