When you reach the top, do secret societies pay you a visit?

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posted on Mar, 14 2013 @ 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by Pinocchio
33 Is The Top?!?...
I read somewhere that it keeps on going to the 99th. Why Is That???



Only in the Rite of Memphis-Misriam, which is considered clandestine to regular masonry. There is at least one member of this site who has studied under that Rite, but I have not seen him around lately.

I often wonder what a conversation with you might be like if we spoke the same language.




posted on Mar, 14 2013 @ 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by InhaleExhale
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Of coarse,

Entertainment is entertainment, why try or even how would one go and debunk entertainment?

Its real unless you think entertainment is a conspiracy to mind control us.


Of course its real and yes it is mind control! People are flashing the horned corneto everywhere. I also see lots of 11,13, 33, 39 numerology everywhere. It cannot be a coincidence. The top masons who are also the bankers and royal families of the world control everything.



posted on Mar, 14 2013 @ 11:57 AM
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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
The top masons who are also the bankers and royal families of the world control everything.


who are they and what lodges are they members of?

Speculation is cool and all, but making statements like that require proof.



posted on Mar, 14 2013 @ 12:09 PM
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Originally posted by network dude

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
The top masons who are also the bankers and royal families of the world control everything.


who are they and what lodges are they members of?

Speculation is cool and all, but making statements like that require proof.


I seriously doubt they would go around advertising their membership. The higher degree ones, 34 and above are clandestine like you said. Maybe there are more such lodges? Bill Schnoebelen says there are 99 and alex jones says 360 degrees.



posted on Mar, 14 2013 @ 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by InhaleExhale
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Of coarse,

Entertainment is entertainment, why try or even how would one go and debunk entertainment?

Its real unless you think entertainment is a conspiracy to mind control us.


Of course its real and yes it is mind control! People are flashing the horned corneto everywhere. I also see lots of 11,13, 33, 39 numerology everywhere. It cannot be a coincidence. The top masons who are also the bankers and royal families of the world control everything.


I also see lots of 1s, 2s and 3s numerology everywhere, I even see 9875s and 9875434676543s all over the place its mind boggling, I t cannot be a coincidence, or maybe I could be a programed fool trying to expose what I suffer from.

The last sentence need clarification, name names it shouldn't be hard, but reasoning will, make sure you have reasoning up to scratch and not because David Ike believes and has shown you.

you are the worst of the mind controlled,

can you please elaborate on this post as its not a coincidence but a program and you are falling for it.


What and where are those numbers you see every where?

What is the most influential bank operating today and who are the head bankers?

Please do tell as you imply to know



posted on Mar, 14 2013 @ 12:56 PM
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How many videos do I need to paste on this forumn of TOP ARTISTS admitting demonic possession while flashing devil signs all over the place? How many conspiracy theorists will it take to convince people like you something is wrong with the world?

Sorry it ain't worth my time. Find the evidence yourself if you care and then I will come back to debunk everything with nonsense. Any babble is good enough apparently!



posted on Mar, 14 2013 @ 12:58 PM
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Alex Jones has no earthly idea about masonry, and I seriously doubt he even cares. He is about making you fear everything that happens.

Bill Shenobelen may have been a mason, although the lodge he claims to have been raised at does not claim him as a member. (I verified that myself) Bill seems to want everyone to think he has tried everything and knows all about each dark endeavor he was part of. His story kind of falls apart when he speaks of the high level satanists having to kill children to move up, then in the next breath, he claims he was the head of that organization. In my book, you can repent and call Jesus your friend all you want, but if you harm a child, you are going to hell in the most direct manner. But I think his soul is safe as he is mostly full of hot air and likely was never even in most of the groups he claims. Just another fraud trying to make money from the gullible.

Once he joined a irregular body of masonry, he would have been expelled from regular masonry if he was actually a member.



posted on Mar, 14 2013 @ 01:11 PM
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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
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How many videos do I need to paste on this forumn of TOP ARTISTS admitting demonic possession while flashing devil signs all over the place? How many conspiracy theorists will it take to convince people like you something is wrong with the world?

Sorry it ain't worth my time. Find the evidence yourself if you care and then I will come back to debunk everything with nonsense. Any babble is good enough apparently!


None,

I need not find any evidence or any convincing of anything, I know!

Why post here if it ain't worth your time, sorry to burst your bubble But I am the Devil in the flesh.

Its on ATS that the member InhaleExhale is the devil in the flesh,

I can post this on many other web sites as well even make a YouTube video declaring my self The Prince of Darkness in the flesh.

Can you then start a thread about me and how you have evidence that I am the Devil and I will come in and back you up, all you have to do is believe, please believe in me and all your desires will be granted.



posted on Mar, 14 2013 @ 01:33 PM
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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
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How many videos do I need to paste on this forumn of TOP ARTISTS admitting demonic possession while flashing devil signs all over the place? How many conspiracy theorists will it take to convince people like you something is wrong with the world?

Sorry it ain't worth my time. Find the evidence yourself if you care and then I will come back to debunk everything with nonsense. Any babble is good enough apparently!


Because they are unimportant . Who cares if some singer claims they are demonic possessed ? Even if it were true , they only have sway over the weak minded who lap up anything and everything these "artists" have to say and do and you are just as guilty for aiding them in spreading this so-called "evil" by pointing it out . Out of sight , out of mind . If one does not pay attention to them , then they will just go away . And here you are , talking about them . They know how to get press , good or bad , it gets their name out there .
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posted on Mar, 14 2013 @ 01:48 PM
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Originally posted by network dude

Once he joined a irregular body of masonry, he would have been expelled from regular masonry if he was actually a member.


Memphis and Misraim starts at 34 and goes to 99. Why would someone want to go down degrees? Does not make sense. Yes there are also irregular lodges like OTO but I doubt that is what he meant.

Alex Jones is as real as it gets. Call it right wing fear porn if you want, but I am center-left on the political spectrum and still find him interesting. As for Bill he sounds legit too.

You guys don't want any negative publicity and will character assasinate anyone. People shouldn't mess with masonry or the big bad wolf is gonna get yea. WHOOwhooWHOO.......it ain't the owls either.



posted on Mar, 14 2013 @ 01:53 PM
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Originally posted by whenandwhere

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
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How many videos do I need to paste on this forumn of TOP ARTISTS admitting demonic possession while flashing devil signs all over the place? How many conspiracy theorists will it take to convince people like you something is wrong with the world?

Sorry it ain't worth my time. Find the evidence yourself if you care and then I will come back to debunk everything with nonsense. Any babble is good enough apparently!


Because they are unimportant . Who cares if some singer claims they are demonic possessed ? Even if it were true , they only have sway over the weak minded who lap up anything and everything these "artists" have to say and do and you are just as guilty for aiding them in spreading this so-called "evil" by pointing it out . Out of sight , out of mind . If one does not pay attention to them , then they will just go away . And here you are , talking about them . They know how to get press , good or bad , it gets their name out there .
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Just the opposite. I would rather not have youngsters mind polluted with satanic symbolism, naked women and tons of cursing. They are terrible role models. They get exposure regardless if I talk about them or not, at least I am giving them negative publicity, which is what they deserve imo.



posted on Mar, 14 2013 @ 01:56 PM
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They sound legit to you is because you believe as they do and want to believe them . Also you will except their lies as truth and defend them regardless of what proof is presented to you that points them out as liars .

It is a lose lose situation .



posted on Mar, 14 2013 @ 01:58 PM
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Doesn't matter , negative or positive attention , people are going to watch them and buy their products to see what all the fuss is about . Gaga is a genius on this front , the more negative things said about her , the more popular she becomes .



posted on Mar, 14 2013 @ 03:04 PM
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Originally posted by KSigMason
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Well, men join Freemasonry for various reasons. No, you don't get promoted faster or easier in jobs. One should earn his keep, not be given it for no reason.

Secrecy is not naturally bad, wrong, or immoral...it's how it is used. Everyone enjoys secrecy, everyone.


I'd love to know how he feels about the secret oath the cardinals who just elected the new Pope had to take? Being secret that necessarily has to be bad too, right?

Fitz



posted on Mar, 14 2013 @ 03:06 PM
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I didn't just call you delusional. I told you why you were mistaken. Education level, income, or "influential connections" are not required to join the Masons.

All I asked was follow up questions to your assertions that you didn't provide evidence for.


What constitutes "low to mid level masons"?

What makes you believe you know more than "they" do?

Do you really think yourself more clever than these fabled "low to mid level masons"?

And how would you know what happens "at the top"?

Could you please answer my questions?


You have a reputation to protect regardless of anything else.

I am standing by and supporting truth, nothing else. Please prove that the "higher degrees" are Satanic by showing us the ritual or ceremony.


Something is wicked about masonry and other secret societies and I gave examples.

I just reread your post I responded to and you posted no evidence of wickedness of Freemasonry. You gave opinions, but not facts.

And as to your "digging deeper" hypothesis of Freemasonry, I stated that that it was not accurate. You provided no evidence to support yourself. Again, you gave false information as to the requirements for membership. We don't kill anyone for violating their obligations, the only punishment is expulsion.


Luciferianism is real. Look it up on wikipedia or any other website.

Yes, because everything on the Internet is true?



Are you guys going to deny the horned cornetto as well?

Is not involved in Freemasonry. What MTV does little concerns me as I stopped watching them when I was a teenager.


JFK himself said secret societies are repulsive in a free society and I agree with him.

Actually, no he didn't. If you listen to the entire speech (not just some edited version), you'd realize he was talking about Freedom of the Press versus the need for National Security (and responsible handling by the press); the speech is called "The President and the Press" and JoshNorton devoted a thread to this already debunking the popular misconception. In the same speech he actually calls for more secrecy and when he says "secret society" he is not talking about private fraternal organizations like the Masons, he was talking about the government being secret and not transparent enough.

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Who cares about these divas?

What's there to debunk?

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What top bankers are Masons? Can you please speak in specifics and not just vague statements?

Are you talking about the British Monarchy? Cause if you are then you should know they only have authority over the British Masons and not anything else. The British Monarchy means very little to me, but I do belong to some appendant orders that are headquartered out of England.

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And by clandestine, we mean they are not Masons.


Bill Schnoebelen says there are 99 and alex jones says 360 degrees.

If you truly believe any of these men then you deserve to be misled.

reply to post by EarthCitizen07
 

The Ancient and Primitive Rites of Memphis-Misraim were seen as a cash scam and provided nothing of worth so it is not recognized by the American Grand Lodges. Currently the the authority of this body lies with the Grand College of Rites (GCR) and they do not confer the degree, but study it as they do all dead, clandestine, and defunked rites.


Yes there are also irregular lodges like OTO but I doubt that is what he meant.

The OTO is a different organization from Freemasonry.


Alex Jones is as real as it gets.

lol...oh, you're serious?!



As for Bill he sounds legit too.

The guy is a proven liar who tried to use a trumped up Masonic resume to make himself more credible when he started preaching his slanderous filth.


You guys don't want any negative publicity and will character assasinate anyone.

We just point out the facts which anti-Masons seem to hate. Only agenda seems to matter to you guys and you'll fabricate whatever is necessary to achieve it.



posted on Mar, 14 2013 @ 03:06 PM
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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Bill Schnoebelen says there are 99 and alex jones says 360 degrees.


Bill the "I've been everything at the same time" guy? Believe him at your peril. And if Alex Jones said the sun was shining, I'd go to the window to verify the statement. That you've been so easily suckered by these two known con men speak volumes

Fitz



posted on Mar, 14 2013 @ 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Alex Jones is as real as it gets.


Well...he's real something, I'll grant you that much. I'll leave it to your fevered imagination to fill in that blank


Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
As for Bill he sounds legit too.


Then it's about time to get your ears checked. Do a little searching on his name here on ATS and after you've read-up a bit, see if you still find him credible.

Fitz



posted on Mar, 14 2013 @ 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by network dude

Once he joined a irregular body of masonry, he would have been expelled from regular masonry if he was actually a member.


Memphis and Misraim starts at 34 and goes to 99. Why would someone want to go down degrees? Does not make sense. Yes there are also irregular lodges like OTO but I doubt that is what he meant.

One would not want to join a group, spend time learning about that group, then do the one thing they told you would get you kicked out if you really liked that group. Joining an irregular lodge, or just sitting in one, can get you expelled. For those of us who take masonry seriously, we just wouldn't do that.


Alex Jones is as real as it gets. Call it right wing fear porn if you want, but I am center-left on the political spectrum and still find him interesting. As for Bill he sounds legit too.

There is a MASSIVE difference between sounding legit, and being legit. Since they both say the things you like to hear, I am sure they sound just fine. However, if you are interested in the truth, I can tell you the truth about AFAM freemasonry. I joined and found out.


You guys don't want any negative publicity and will character assasinate anyone. People shouldn't mess with masonry or the big bad wolf is gonna get yea. WHOOwhooWHOO.......it ain't the owls either.


If you want to know the truth, we don't mind this negative stuff. It get's people talking, and the smart ones will figure out what's real and what's made up garbage. The smart ones are the ones we want becoming masons. Afterall, it would be hard to lead idiots in a world take over situation.



posted on Mar, 14 2013 @ 04:39 PM
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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Memphis and Misraim starts at 34 and goes to 99.


I am a 99th Degree Mason of Mephis, Mizram and the Santa Fe. I worship babies and eat Baphomets.

I may have that backwards.



posted on Mar, 15 2013 @ 10:29 AM
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Well..
I start off by shaking your hand. Firm grip. Then I press my thumb against your thumb knuckle. One press.
Then acknowledge me by using your lleft hand touch my right-hand while still shaking gesture. I immediately pull away and the war begins.





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