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I got punched in the face for asking for my receipt; literally.

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posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 05:05 AM
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What a bizarre incident. Over reactions all round, I think.

One thing I don't get is, why is it such a big deal to give out a receipt?


The shop guy should have just given out the receipt and the OP should have just asked for it nicely if he didn't. No big deal.


Just bizarre.



posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 05:05 AM
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WOW....thats gunna keep the ad men happy! 359 posts in 7 hours...so 51.2 posts per hour or .85 post per minute + all the members that read them. (I was a sucker) So much for a SLOW day on ATS until this happened.

Trolls 1, ATS 1, Members 0



posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 05:21 AM
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Just imagine what the OP is like in real life....

A dreadful human being....



posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 05:25 AM
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reply to post by WaterBottle
 


He might not be too bad in real life but I'm glad he doesn't live next door to me



posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 05:34 AM
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seems like a awful lot of trouble to go to for a packet of Condoms...



posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 05:36 AM
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Look at his join date, pretty sure he's trolling



posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 05:51 AM
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Originally posted by SpearMint

Originally posted by Signals
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We all have a right to resist!


No, you don't. If he wants you off his property then you should get off.
edit on 14-1-2013 by SpearMint because: (no reason given)


He has no right to put his hands on a customer. The op wasn't acting in a violent or hostile manner so there was no need to resort to getting physical. Imo the owner assaulted the op.



posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 05:55 AM
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Originally posted by WaterBottle
Just imagine what the OP is like in real life....

A dreadful human being....

My first impression was this:


edit on 15-1-2013 by Xaphan because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 05:58 AM
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Well that is extremelly unlucky my friend!



posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 05:59 AM
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Originally posted by buster2010

Originally posted by SpearMint

Originally posted by Signals
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We all have a right to resist!


No, you don't. If he wants you off his property then you should get off.
edit on 14-1-2013 by SpearMint because: (no reason given)


He has no right to put his hands on a customer. The op wasn't acting in a violent or hostile manner so there was no need to resort to getting physical. Imo the owner assaulted the op.


Did you read the entire thread or just be ignorant and skip most of it. The op was caught lying and admitted he lynched the clerk twice. Not the other way around.



posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 06:14 AM
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Indeed.

The OP was kind of a dick - even in his previous sanitized version of events.

Takeaways:

1. It's your right to ask for a receipt and be given one if it is at all possible.

2. Service industry workers such as store clerks (or managers) are not your personal emotional punching bag.

3. If you are told to get off the premises then do so or expect to have the situation escalate.

4. If you lay a hand on another man (or a woman) without it being a case of physical self-defense, then expect to at minimum accompany the cops to the precinct for some paperwork. It doesn't matter whether you were verbally abused or not. If you escalate it to a physical confrontation then you reap what you sow.

It's what I always tell tossers who want to fight me... there's going to be two outcomes: a) You start a fight and I kick the sh!t out of you - I'm then mostly immune to prosecution because it was self-defense so long as I use reasonable force. b) You start a fight and kick the sh!t out of me - you go to jail for assault and I point and laugh - even with a busted jaw. Either way, I win.



posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 06:23 AM
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''streetfightingman ''
your name says it all i think,lol
You probably did sound arrogant and also could have asked the receipt kindly.
then you say !!
""hurled a deuce set of punches to my face and my back, until
eventually I stared him in the face after he walked away to get his phone to call the cops, and began punching him as he tried to defend himself in the side of the head.""
Now if he was the aggresor would he call the police then?
not very logic i gues



posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 06:32 AM
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Originally posted by streetfightingman
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What bluff? Of course I had pent up anger, but I didn't come off as angry. I came off as rude.

He doesn't have the right to ask me to leave his store, for not doing anything against
corporate policy or against the law.

The bake store near my place also doesn't want me in my store. It has openly admitted it is
"communist:" affiliated with the Alberta Business Association. I came in there
one time on a tirade, non-violently but of course I am very annoying, but a simple "I'm not interested"
would suffice.

And I did leave. But of course the owner, not only did he disagree with me, he "effectively" banned me from his property for no legal reason.

This is unbelievable.
edit on 14-1-2013 by streetfightingman because: (no reason given)


so let me get this straight, you are also banned from another business in your town, this makes two, i would wager more than two. I would hazard a guess you invoked an angered response from the shop assistant then fled when he called 911 as you are most probably known to the cops.



posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 06:54 AM
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Well we live in a society now ,where pretty much every man for himself. The "love thy neighbor" is gone. People do not care about other people's petty #. In fact, its cut throat out in the world, people just don't care anymore. It's all about me, mine and don't get in my way mentality.

On a personal note, I would not have tolerated your dickness, I would have done something similar. It's all about respect. If you disrespect one then expect to be disrespected. It's the AMERICAN way nowadays. Is it right, well that's debatable. Me personally, I believe Family first mentality no matter the cost.



posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 06:59 AM
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Yeah, this is exactly like what happened to the Jews. First they got no receipts, then they were shoved into the ovens. Great analogy, Einstein.



posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 07:07 AM
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Poor Little Thing.

Why would any clerk anywhere refuse you a receipt? You seem reasonable. Level-headed. And absolutely inappropriately persecuted for being yourself in public. Afterall, two businesses have now asked you to leave and your handle is streetfighter. So obviously, you're a pacifist.

[end sarcasm]

I notice your verbal interactions that you did quote were described as verbiage that could be stated with different tones, could mean a variety of things depending on what WORDS you emphasize or the body posture you presented.

I also see that your story got bigger and the connations altered with retelling. You were not polite or kind. You probably deserved more than you got and less than you described as well.

What was your point?

I'm a scraper. I love a good brawl. Never matters where or when. We will both hurt tomorrow so, let's have at it. I think my greatest fight began and ended in a casino in 'Vegas. I was the one that DIDNT have to go to jail.

Most folks don't want to throw the first punch. You don't seem to have that problem. I sort of wonder if you were the guy I met.



posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 07:09 AM
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People are nut jobs. There are no manners in this world today. I had the same issue recently in town here in New York buying Gas. I didn't get punched but I got plenty of attitude.



posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 07:15 AM
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All of your post make you sound like an arrogant jerk. Maybe you need to check yourself before treati g other people poorly from now on. Noone deserves it.



posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 07:26 AM
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it is not a big deal. You dont give out a receipt everyone to save paper. If they ask for it, you give it. Most people just throw it away and dont even look at it.

The OP has problems. Taking that into account I suspect this whole thing, if real, was entirely his fault.

Most people dont try and scare off customers. Especially now a days. If this happened the OP´s "rude" attitude was probably more like aggressive and provocative if not threatening.

I think the shop guy was right. I dont let unstable people in out of respect for the other 99% of my customers who appreciate the filter I place on my door.

You have less rights in reality than you do in your mind perceptions of "rights" as a potential customer. That guy is there everyday. He works there. The OP came in that once and possibly a couple more times in a year. Why would he have more rights than the guy who owns it or works there and is there everyday?

This entire thing sounds like a troll lie or an over reaction and then misrepresentation by an admitted mentally unstable person. His version of events might be a little off.....

He also hit the guy.....I doubt that was done to him first. Who do you suspect struck first: the guy working trying to make a living, or the mentally unstable person who admitted to his aggressiveness, tone, and general problem with the situation he was in (receiptlessness.....
) To which a solution was already provided by the cashier because he never denied it from the OP.....



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posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 07:28 AM
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You were just exercising your rights. Without a receipt, a cashier can ring up any amount of money they feel like and you wouldn't know it.

I always keep my receipts until I see my bank statements online to make sure the proper amount has been taken out of my account. If there's anything amiss, I have the receipt to prove it. I can then notify my bank, which will intervene.

You possibly could have been more polite, but I still think you were within your rights.



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