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Originally posted by HenryNorris
reply to post by smyleegrl
I blame teachers.
You are full of excuses. Like how you try to blame low socio economic families for having dumb children because they dont value education. I find that offensive.
I have also seen some of your posts where you say you do things like make children walk laps as punishment.
What else do you do? Make them stand with their nose on a wall? Yell/raise your voice at them?
I do not understand why people are happy to allow these so called 'teachers' ( who are full of themselves btw ) to yell at our children.
The wrong people are teachers Im afraid. We need to raise teacher standards and pay to attract better people to this important job.
edit- smyleegirl blames poor parents. Its not smyleegirls fault, its those dumb poor people that dont care about their children. Imagine sending your child to spend time this this person 5 days a week. It is your Union that is to blame smyleegirl. Teachers Unions and 'teachers' that look for excuses.edit on 14-1-2013 by HenryNorris because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by robodrag0n
Mitsu Kaku was right when he said that schools crush curiosity, but I don't believe it manifests in conformity, but in rebellion.
Let's face it, the only difference between me, and the ill-inspired teenagers in normal classes, is that I work for my future.
Originally posted by misfit312
Well I have mixed feelings about public school today..I have 3 children, 1 is in high school,1 is is middle school, and one is just beginning elementary. My opinion varies not by the school necessarily but by the teacher...
My oldest - She has had some amazing teachers. She has dreams of being a writer and amazingly she was put in a class with this English teacher who has been nothing but an asset to her..She helped my daughter tremendously and still keeps in touch with her today(Although the teacher has QUIT teaching and has taken a job in publishing field)Last year she had a younger English teacher and he was horrible he was one of those "If you don't agree with me then you are wrong teachers" she took a major self-esteem hit.So this is when I began extra-educating my kids as I call it. When they come home we talk about what they were "taught" and what the "reality" out there is..Her math teacher this year is a joke, I do not even think she knows what she is doing...
My middle child has had a rough road.In kindergarten his teacher literally told me "He knows to much, I have nothing to teach him.I must spend my time with other kids." Then 2 months later she tried to tell me he was ADHD and I needed to have him tested immediately..Did I? Heck NO!! She she continued to tell me that I WAS WRONG! So next was trying to tell me he had allergy problems and to take him to an allergist he needed to be medicated..Then came the huge blow-out -- my husband and I had taken out kids to a local Basketball game and were out til 1130pm so we didn't send him the next day.So I get a phone call I need to meet with the teacher and the school shrink. She was going to turn me into Child Services because my son told her that he was absent cause he slept in a car the night before!!(She knew perfectly well we had a home) I was ticked--I explained were were out late and I simply told my kids to try to sleep in the car on the way home...She was horrible...Needless to say come first grade his new teacher told me there was nothing wrong with my son,and that whoever suggested he had ADHD was crazy..Fast forward to 4th grade and they ended up giving my son the COGAT test because they thought he was "gifted" and his teacher basically told me she "Ran out of work for him to do"so she was "having him do my work" That's right she passed off her work to my son...Correcting papers, doing the signboards whatever she could find...Then he went to advanced classes in middle school and that was a joke..
He still struggles with school because he has a hard time agreeing with his teacher and loves to start class debates when the teachers feel its inappropriate..He has also been in trouble for telling the teachers they are wrong in front of the class, they feel he should talk to them privately..And here is where I tell him he was either wrong or right depending on the situation and how it was handled, I don't tolerate crap from my kids and I sure in the hell dont kiss their butts but I do support them when I feel their right.
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Originally posted by smyleegrl
Originally posted by HenryNorris
reply to post by smyleegrl
I blame teachers.
You are full of excuses. Like how you try to blame low socio economic families for having dumb children because they dont value education. I find that offensive.
I have also seen some of your posts where you say you do things like make children walk laps as punishment.
What else do you do? Make them stand with their nose on a wall? Yell/raise your voice at them?
I do not understand why people are happy to allow these so called 'teachers' ( who are full of themselves btw ) to yell at our children.
The wrong people are teachers Im afraid. We need to raise teacher standards and pay to attract better people to this important job.
edit- smyleegirl blames poor parents. Its not smyleegirls fault, its those dumb poor people that dont care about their children. Imagine sending your child to spend time this this person 5 days a week. It is your Union that is to blame smyleegirl. Teachers Unions and 'teachers' that look for excuses.edit on 14-1-2013 by HenryNorris because: (no reason given)
Try retreading my post without the chip on your shoulder.
Whether you like it or not, socio-economics plays a part in education. Just as it does in every aspect of life. When I have time, after work, I'll link some of those studies.
I've taught in "richer" areas, and to deny the difference is to embrace ignorance. So why do I teach where I do? Because I care, about the kids and the future of education.
And exactly where in my post did I call anyone "dumb?" Please show me.
As for walking laps, I would love to hear how you would deal with children throwing pencils and crayons. Please, I want to know. Because if you truly have a better idea, then I'm willing to listen.
I'd love to invite you to visit my classroom. Any chance you're near NC?edit on 15-1-2013 by smyleegrl because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by drmeola
Most colleges and universities in America, the student body is made up of nearly 80 percent of home schooled children as the general graduating public simple can NOT pass the entrance exams for these higher learning institutions.
Originally posted by smyleegrl
Originally posted by unityemissions
reply to post by smyleegrl
I was in one of the best districts in the nation.
They did NOT teach critical thinking at all. They taught route memorization.
The system is a sham. Sorry you bought into it.
Must be hell for you.
Nope, I love my job.
There are bad teachers, teachers who should not be teaching. No doubt about it. And lots of children do better in a more private environment.
I didn't "buy into" anything. I am vested in doing my best to teach the children under my care. Its a job I take seriously.
My motto: if the students believe everything I say, then I haven't done my job.
Originally posted by smyleegrl
I'd love to invite you to visit my classroom. Any chance you're near NC?edit on 15-1-2013 by smyleegrl because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ZASHTO
......the system would naturally alienate home schoolers to the point where they could only make a living being self employed wouldn't it?.....
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Originally posted by drmeola
There is so much in this video the only comment I can come up with is WOW, it covers more then just the topic of education but so much more.
Originally posted by drmeola
A university degree is yes more and more of an important piece of paper to have, and for that fact alone home schooling is the way to go. Most colleges and universities in America, the student body is made up of nearly 80 percent of home schooled children as the general graduating public simple can NOT pass the entrance exams for these higher learning institutions.
Originally posted by drmeola
reply to post by ohhhh
Hi ohhhh,
I never trust statistics to be honest and do my own research and investigations as much as possible, to those means having relatives teaching in the university (more then one over the years) have asked him about the student body on that specific question.
After about 6 months he came back to me after speaking to his students and others around campus had concluded that yes the student body is made up of the greatest percent of home schooled or other form of education and found that only a small amount of students went to public school.
Remember this is higher education, Universities and not community colleges, as those do have a much greater student body of public schooled children.
edit on 15-1-2013 by drmeola because: (no reason given)
However, a good teacher doesn't teach from a textbook. Its there as a reference tool only. I know a lot of teachers, especially the older ones, do use the book. But in an ideal world that wouldn't be the case.