reply to post by jimmiec
I'm now doing my second degree because my first degree didn't get me a job.. mean while all my friends who became electricians, welders, boiler
makers and builders are making a motsa. In hind site i wish I had gotten a trade and then gone to uni later (i don't regret uni, studied arts and
now law, very interesting and enlightening, however I'm broke.. and the job market aint looking to hot for lawyers).
Jean Jaques Rousseau wrote a book called 'emile' about the best education.. part of it was that one should learn a trade and then go on to learn the
the arts and sciences - the rationale being that you have a trade to fall back on when demand aint so hot for academics.. he claimed this to be the
Swiss way, and pointed out that a watch maker in England was a watch maker, but a watch maker in Switzerland was also a philosopher, scientist,
musician and politician.
The book also spoke about the importance of freedom in the child's education, and that the child must learn from experience. Modern psychology now
supports a lot of his thesis.
I agree that public schools are a sham. I went to one, hated it. I recall calling the teacher out about the fallacies and inconsistencies in what they
were saying and getting in trouble. They certainly don't seem to want a population who can critically think.
If I ever have kids I will private school or home school.. if I can afford.
This dumbing down of the populace leads to a situation where the majority of the national body politic has literally suffered from development
retardation - they are stupid and think that knowledge comes from being told something by authority instead of through deduction and induction.
Schools a governed by draconian authoritarianism that would be tolerated no where else except maybe the home. Kids are told when they can talk, they
have to ask to use the toilet, they have to eat according to a bell, all learn the exact same mundane and useless facts, do what they are told without
question ("don't talk back"), wear a uniform (where i come from, dunno about the states), sing the anthem and school motto (lol).
We are told that if we do poorly at school we will be forever phucked. This thankfully is not true, infact there are many who have done very well that
left school and many more who are not phucked and doing much better than those who did well in school and were obedient.
this is brave new world like stuff when you think about it.. It seems normal when you are at school but when you reflect, you realize it was kind of
sick.. it was an 'education camp', kind of like a 're-education camp', but for the first time. Indoctrination factories, conditioning poor souls
to do as they are told and not what their hearts desire. Is it any wonder so many are mentally ill? why so many turn to drugs and booze?
The fact that a parent can get in legal trouble if they do not send their kids to school is insane. Effectively, what that means is 'surrender your
child to us for 6 hours a day, 5 days a week, so that we may indoctrinate them with our world view. If you don't we will confiscate your kids / fine
you / other wise compel you'. Sure kids can be home schooled in most jurisdictions without many issues, but there is unfortunately the economic
reality that many are too time poor to do this. I think that is adodgy excuse - you could teach your child more than the public syllabubs in 2 hours
and evening. IE, you can teach much more efficiently than schools. I don't have any proof, but upon my reckoning, I think you could teach a child
primary school and highschool maths in 2 or 3 years of a couple of hours a night a couple of nights a week.. Our youths are wasted staring at a black
bored, learning things we have no natural inclination to learn.
In regards to the mental illness - I think kids are naturally unsuited to today's school systems, so they act out, this is labelled 'adhd', and the
kid is put on drugs so his natural yearnings are covered up. The child becomes a learning robot. Anyone who has ever had some kind of amphetamine and
read a book or browsed the internet will know what I mean (not that I have.. ).
My friend is kind of stupid and she has a cat in her tiny apartment. The cat clearly hates life there because it wants to catch birds and play in the
grass. As such it meows a lot and runs around making a general ruckus.. That is until she went to the vet and the cat was diagnosed with 'cat
anxiety' and given cat valium (real valium in low dose). This is no word of a lie. This sitiuation is directly analogous to school kids
Scen 1- Kid doesn't want to do what he is told, so give him drug that makes him learn and do as he is told.
scen 2 - Cat is making too much noise, so give something to make it quiet.
BOTH scenarios: Something isn't doing what you want it to do, so drug it to gain compliance.