posted on Jan, 11 2013 @ 03:13 AM
Originally posted by yorkshirelad
Originally posted by boymonkey74
reply to post by TheDoctor46
Plus how many times have we been at war with one of the European countries? they have always tried to take over so sod em, They hate us because they
can't beat us and some hate us because we helped save them.
Commonwealth all the way
I think you'll find the British were the ones flexing muslces around Europe due to royalty links and empire building. The last war was the game
changer showing how severe war had become.
Remember the EEC came about precisely to prevent any more wars..... funnily enough it has worked!
Most of the anti europe sentiment comes from the usual bigotry (humourless nazis , garlic eating frogs, etc) as well as a hefty does of ignorance
whipped up by the tabloids.
When the tabloids state "Decision made about abc that prevents us British from selling our abc's in Europe" what they don't tell you is "When the
decision was made nobody from Britain could be arsed turning up for the meetings where the decision was made".
You would be astonished at the number of COLLABORATIVE meetings that have occurred to make policy, decide on standards etc etc and the UK
representative was absent.
I used to work for a multinational semiconductor firm and we were told by the Japanese car manufacturers that the ONLY reason they set up shop in
Britain was because we were in Europe.
Let me guess : look at Norway and how well they do outside of Europe (as UKIP states)......erm well not quite. They are actually fully paid up members
of the free trade in Europe. In order to do this they have to contribute to the EEC and implement most European laws and all without a vote ANYWHERE.
Hmmmmm The only reason they are not a full member is because the people vote against it in a referendum and yet the voting morons don't realise that
thy are effectively members but without a say in policy.....for freaks sake ! Their economy is dependent on EEC trade.
Someone speaking sense at last. We need the E.U. especially due to Foreign direct investment. Nissan was one of the Japanese companies that setup shop
in the UK because we were in the E.U. And where do most of the cars goto? Europe.
There's a whole bunch of them, just think of all the multinational companies that have setup HQ's in London, you think they will stay there if we drop
out of Europe. Its all down to free trade.
Your probably thinking if that's the case why don't they just go to any other European city, its because there are fewer restrictions on commerce in
the UK than in any other European country coupled with the fact London is Europe's transport hub. The city's five international airports provide
direct flights to more than 450 destinations. You pull out of Europe and the reasons people come here, flat line.
Our inward direct investment from foreign business is 3rd in the world, due to our current setup.
Its the reason America don't want us out, all the business that filters through the UK. As I said before the E.U. is a cash cow. To quote myself.
- Worlds largest single market
- Economic zone larger than that of the USA and Japan combined
- Total GDP of around £11 trillion
- 2.75 million jobs were created in the single market between 1992 and 2006. For the UK, the increase in GDP would have been around £25 billion.
- Exports to other EU countries account for 51 per cent of the UK’s exports of goods and services
- 3.5 million jobs in Britain are linked, directly or indirectly, to the UK’s trade with other Member States.
- Foreign direct investment+
- Freedom to travel, live, work, study and retire anywhere in the EU
- Free trade agreement with Japan that will generate about £25 billion in economic benefits for Europe.
There should be rules in places that people have to actually read the pros and cons before we have a referendum. Its shocking how many people blindly
vote. I was amazed at the last elections how many people changed there vote just because they thought it couldn't be worse then what labour did.
People need to look at the facts instead of bigotry against Europe. I'm not saying the E.U is perfect, far from it and massive reforms need to happen,
but you need solid reason to leave and as it is now, we need Europe.
edit on 11-1-2013 by tdk84 because: (no reason given)