Animal killer Kayla Bourque released to live in Vancouver

Go Canada! Silly they'd let her out after the whole gay porn star who put kittens in bag and sucked the air out who later murdered a university student and posted a video of him hacking the body up with an icepick online. Hard to find the ice pick vid but you can find the kitten video easy!

www.heraldsun.com.au...
^(just an article)

silly Canadians.

reply to post by boymonkey74


I hated to post and run this morning, but I had to leave for work. Yes, yes, yes...therapy, meds, close supervision....
just so you know, I have 11 years combined experience working in the mental health field, and towards the end of my run in that career path, I worked on a maximum security unit for the last 3 years, so I do have some first hand experience / knowledge of this topic, I'm not just spouting an uninformed opinion. ( I'm not saying that your opinion is uninformed - I'm speaking for myself ).
I have personally read hundreds of patient case histories.

( By the way, I'm not picking an argument with you- my intent here is a friendly discussion - I respect your opinion and your right to it, although I disagree )

What actually constitutes "close supervision" ? Will it be 24/7? Will she be wearing an electronic monitoring device? What actual resources does her "supervisors" have access to? What meds will she be taking ( if any ) ? What is her actual "diagnosis", if any? Of course much of this information is confidential, and we (rightfully) have no access to it.

How many victims have filed for restraining orders and gotten them, with the promise of law enforcement "protection", only to have the offender in question show up and murder the complaintant? A lot of these instances are murder-suicide actions as well. If she decides she wants to kill, she won't care about the consequences...she'll probably wind up with her picture on T-Shirts, comic books, websites, and get her own A&E Special......

She should be humanely locked up and ran through an intensive, comprehensive rehabilitation program, and when and if demonstrable progress has been shown, then she should be released through a highly structured monitored program in phases, not simply just turned out into the public.

reply to post by thisguyrighthere


Perfect candidate for a false flag patsy!!!

Could you please stop with the "Go Canada" comments. Just because this person is Canadian, does not means she represents Canada. There are sick people like this all over the world. This one just happened to make the news.

reply to post by FlySolo


Someone needs to '86 this beast. Seriously, there needs to be a team of highly-trained, well-equipped "Dark Knight" types who will fill in the gaps in the criminal justice system.

reply to post by moonzoo7



Good someone who has also worked in mental health
Ok my point what I have been trying to make is against the people on here who want to "put down" people like this girl, Iam not saying she doesn't need help and supervision but many here have just been horrid towards mentally ill people.
I worked in two different places one was a locked med security ward and one was a rehab unit the hardest wasn't the med security unit the hardest for me was the rehab unit, I was attacked more there and had to save a fellow worker from being raped by a patient, other incidents happened which effected me for the worst.
We don't know the ins and outs of this case really because we have not got access to the files.
I just want to help poorly people who have this stigma against them from people not understanding mental illness.
Threads like this just put all people who have been sectioned in the same boat and that is wrong.
Take care BM xx

reply to post by TrueBrit


People thought the same of Jeffrey Dahmer as well, even though there were red flags.

He presented himself as a normal guy and no one knew that he had barrels and jars of rotting remains...I remember once I was trying to put the moves on this guy and I was telling him about a graphic novel about Dahmer. He tells me that his friend's mom used to get rides to work from him, as he was a pretty nice guy.

Hell, John Wayne Gacy was a party clown...

You'd be surprised how some monsters just blend in.

reply to post by oniraug

Originally posted by oniraug
Go Canada! Silly they'd let her out after the whole gay porn star who put kittens in bag and sucked the air out who later murdered a university student and posted a video of him hacking the body up with an icepick online. Hard to find the ice pick vid but you can find the kitten video easy!

www.heraldsun.com.au...
^(just an article)

silly Canadians.

WTH! Canada? You pin this on Canada and say "Go Canada" that's NOT funny, at all, what an idiot, I won't even ask what country you're from because I don't want to embarrass your fellow countrymen, that was a disgraceful comment. It's bad enough that we have this whacked out girl on our streets, so you've got to come along and add insult to injury? Put the shoe on the other foot, or is this simply glee that we have to deal with the same kind of # up here in Canada that you do, down there? How pathetic. Then again we are on the internet so I guess you get all kinds, but frankly, you really owe an apology to all Canadian members and participants here at ATS because this doesn't speak to nor has anything to do with "Canada" or what Canada values as a nation and as a Civilized society. Ugh!

reply to post by dogstar23


Like a civilian with a .45 Magnum. That's dark knight enough for me.
I live near Vancouver and people like this should be used for human experimentation. At least that way they are helping others. It might sound harsh but do you really want to spend your tax money keeping a cozy room for these people?. Listen if hooking up a car battery to some crazy killers brain cures cancer in 5 years GO FOR IT!

Just my opinion.

Oh ya shes pretty dam nutty and far out there, the links said they even found vids of her killing, dissecting and hanging the family pet dog, and even a cat. Oh ya shes nut's, even her youtube page is full of lame songs about the subject of killing and that one show Dexter they have on the tv seems to be one of her favorite, and she always tends to compare and contrast real actual killers throughout history and the movie ones and there differences and the differences between the real thing and the movie thing, mentally projecting a persona she is making, a sort of mental map.

There was this one kid when I grew up that lived in the same apartments, the dude used to like killing squirrels, he used to throw rocks at them and even small dogs trying to peg them so he can get them. The dude was only dangerous when he knew they would not fight back or against smaller animals who did not stand a chance, these type of people are opportunists, that is they will only do something when they know they can get away with it, the lie in wait type, if confronted by anything on the same level as them or higher there whole power and control persona they got going on, shrinks and crumbles to dust.

They need to constantly make themselves and build themselves mentally, there the more extreme controlling type they need to justify themselves in any situation as being in control, hence the whole lying and metal mombo jombo they tend to project, even the whole criminal genius thing they got going on which only really fools people without a dictionary. But in all people who exhibit extreme forms of control issues usually have extreme forms of personal security issues, point in case she is not going to do anything, that is unless an opportunity is given. Must be why she was thinking on becoming a criminologist and psychologist, usually the best way to get away with something is to become the thing that society deems is there to prevent it or help it.

But anyways I think they should of left her in the mental hospital till she gets things, and her mind gets more clear, but usually the whole environment and the drugs they shoot them do not help to that effect they just make them slower and induce them into more zombie like states, and usually when that stuff wears out or when they stop taking the drugs the original problems come creeping out as well. So she is not likely to get better because she is not likely to fully get over her habits or metal blocks, and delusions, first because she does not want to, second because it takes a real long time and effort to change your whole mental makeup its not something that can be done overnight or in a few years even, and third because the whole environment is inductive to making her delusions more real by the very fact that everybody treats it as such, there by stabilizing and stamping the whole image they have of it into reality.

But since they let her out I would worry more so for the cats and the dogs in the neighborhood then the people, and curtailing labeling and quarantining her will just add to her delusions and to peoples delusions of her, and ultimately just make things worse. A sort of self fulfilled prophecy type of thing. In a way its a lose lose situation under those type of circumstances or any circumstances really.

But other then that and a few other things, there really kind of normal, which is not saying anything about her or them personally, its just saying something about society, people, and the world we live in. Its a nutty world we live in what can I say.

Originally posted by Aquarius2150
reply to post by dogstar23

 

Like a civilian with a .45 Magnum. That's dark knight enough for me.
I live near Vancouver and people like this should be used for human experimentation. At least that way they are helping others. It might sound harsh but do you really want to spend your tax money keeping a cozy room for these people?. Listen if hooking up a car battery to some crazy killers brain cures cancer in 5 years GO FOR IT!

Just my opinion.

Point in case. It's a nutty, world eh. Were typically one nut judges the other. I am sure that she is just as likely to just find a poor smuck who will overlook or not be aware of her habits, really shouldn't be all that hard to do as she is not all that bad on the eyes, and well you know the rest is nature at work. And for all anybody knows they could have kids and be fruitful and multiply and live a semi charmed life, or at least till the truth rears its ugly head or they hit a bump in the road which with a little acting would be years in the making. In a world full of crazy people it should not be all that hard for them to find each other.

reply to post by NewAgeMan

Well if she's the current incarnation and personification of evil in the world within the context of the karmic wheel of death and resurrection (see ankh), then maybe things aren't so bad after all..?

You totally lost me there, anyhoo I doubt she even understands the meaning of the symbol. Kids have always gone for that "edgy" look to rebel. It's twilight gone terribly wrong. I remember when all these kids dressed like Marilyn Manson and parents were in a uproar. MM got what he wanted and it worked. She was probably treated horribly as a child perhaps abused. She is likeley the product of another monster or its protege ... she becomes her abuser and tormentor. Hence monsters beget more monsters. That may be where she learned the Sadism. I knew this 12 yo kid in my neighborhood back in the 80's that set dogs and cats on fire, he seemed like a sweet kid. No warning signs. was sent away for years and got out and murdered several people brutally. He was like Micheal Meyers irl.

But this girl seemed to want some sort of attention with the color contacts with her impulsive mindset led her to tell people of her dark thoughts. It is not illegal to say you want to kill ____ , it can get you put in padded room if you are a juvie with parental consent. It does not shock me or nor is it that she talked about killing people unusual. At least by merica standard. That's our blood thirst romance with death in our society now, glorification of violence, vampires, devils , ghouls of sorts dashed with unspeakable cruelty. Its all good when it happens on the silver screen. Heck i hear people all the time talking about offing someone they don't like. I just shrug it off. That is not scary, the scary part is the child porn mixture with animal cruelty.

As for the gif get a sense of humor & stop complaining, use your scroll bar jeeez

Anyway I am glad she lives 1000 miles from my pets, heaven forbid you ever kill a cat and it make way to the internet. May Anon send her over 9000 pizzas and ruin what she has left of a half life.

Hide your pets Canada

These eyes will deceive you, they will destroy you. They will take from you, your innocence, your pride, and eventually your soul. These eyes do not see what you and I see. Behind these eyes one finds only blackness, the absence of light, these are of a psychopath. - Dr. Samuel Loomis: Halloween 2007

After the repeated suggestions that she be treated with compassion, love, etc., I thought I was perhaps too hasty in dismissing her as a hopeless barbarian, unfit for society, so I thought I should read through her Youtube comments (www.youtube.com...) and journal on VampireFreaks.com (vampirefreaks.com...) for a more accurate view of her psychology. Thanks to ATS user Alien Abduct for those links. I just read more than I should have, and now feel not only nauseous but also more certain of my initial instinct than ever. She's a god damn lunatic. A few harmless comments for your consideration:

I just found it really weak that he was so unable to act violently... like if he couldn't even dissect a pig or kill a dog but then he finally kills someone and goes on living all normally?? There were too many cliches in this movie ='(

Lol at 2:20 getting him in the ass with the sickle. Hehhee... I wish there were more options for disembowelling and torture! ...especially the torture. Mmm... I used to like this game sort of.
Woohoo the murder simulator!!! But they need another version were you can just be a serial killer like a realistic one, and abduct people and # or home invade, and then try to outwit police and all. Like the whole story of a serial killer would be awesome. And you can do it however you want.

In the comments section of a Jeffrey Dahmer Cannibalism video, in response to a public invitation from a Youtube user by the name "SexualPsychopath", which read, "Are there any young men who would be prepared to meet me at a public toilet in the middle of the night without telling ANYONE that they are doing so? Send me a message if you are. I'm in NY city.", Kayla wrote the following:

Hahah.. hell yeah. I am the same way. Anyone in north BC? Stupid, suicidal or whatever your reason... seriously.

In response to another user's comment, "I'd love to kidnap a yummy boy and transanally eviscerate him with a garden hose and industrial air compressor.", Kayla wrote,

Damn, you rock! That would be #in' hot.

The most telling comment she made, which does not bode well for any creature that comes in contact with her in the future (this was quoted by another ATS member in this thread, but it bears reiteration):

Lol. I had a smirk on my face... cause when I was in court I found the whole scenario to be stupid and overdone, and I also knew that I could lie my face off with more confidence than other people tell the truth. Infact, I spoke to the judge before the sentencing, like I was asked to stand up and say what I wanted... so I did. Just made it up really, and I only got 2 years probation for attempted murder when I was 16.

The lyrics she wrote in her Vampire journal are what I found most shocking, though I suppose it will be argued that poetic license is at play (although she casts herself, "Killa Berserk," as the protagonist in much of the fiction she writes). One song is about the necrophilia and sadism she says she possesses:

It’s dead, its life is gone; mutilated past recognition
Cruel sexual fury released as I’m [expletive] this incision
It’s dead body’s twitching with the violence of each thrust
I own you [expletive], you’re murdered; victim of my [expletive] lust

("it" is an interesting choice of pronoun; the "it" here is a person, but "it" equates the person to an object rather than considering the subject an individual).

I really don't understand how any reasonable person can read these comments of hers, particularly the one inviting someone to meet her for a homicidal rendezvous, or the admittance that she manipulated a judge to get probation for attempted murder, and conclude that it's acceptable for her to be living freely. It takes one mistake, one slip-up on the part of her supervisors, and an innocent person or animal is taken in an undoubtedly heinous way. She should be retained in a psychiatric facility for the rest of her life, unless someone discovers a cure for murderous sociopathy. You would all do well to recall the Bradford murders, which occurred at the hands of a person who was diagnosed as violent and sociopathic, with murderous aspirations. He was released on probation, and during that time, he did what authorities were warned he would do: he committed murder. It's naivete to suggest that people like this belong in society. I'm so tired of the needless criminality that occurs at the hands of blatant, self-avowed threats to society, all because we insist on upholding this idea of rehabilitation and compassion that does not work in reality.

This is evidence that there are evil spirits in the world. The one that has got this victim wants bloodshed and sadism and sexual perversion, and in return it gives all that narcissism and an idea of fulfilling utopian wishes. Realize her intended victims are homeless people; that in her world she's taking it out on the unproductive. Whatever would she do if she became one of them?

I looked at her photos and in less than five seconds this wicked spirit got to me. Then I'm looking at my dog and there's this unnatural image regarding the dog. Evil just pours of that one. But then my good real self returns and says, this dog is a person, and the fight between good and evil, good wins again. We all are given the choice daily, to be good or evil. We are human. She's clearly not choosing the proper path to her survival.

Drugs won't fix this problem. To use drugs as a weapon of punishment for behavior, or as a means to kill someone, I would call torture. You can't medicate ethics into a person, understand? Drugs manipulate moods but they don't fix a logic problem, which this person has. Throwing pills at a person and throwing them in a warehouse for projected crimes that have not yet occurred doesn't do anything. It's a cheap method, medication unto death, and you might as well organize a pre-emptive assassination of this woman if you are so intent on fixing problems that way. Which would make you as bad as her.

An exorcism might work, if she's willing to give up that spirit that makes her sinister.

I feel sorry for the people living near her because some rejects are going to be inspired by her, and get those toxic impulses. That spirit will travel and get more recruits to maintain its power. The vibe which, incidentally, is a lot like many executives and politicians these days: high ideals but lots of indifference towards human and animal life to obtain their satisfaction.

This one probably has a future writing murder mysteries.

reply to post by Sandalphon

Originally posted by Sandalphon
and in return it gives all that narcissism and an idea of fulfilling utopian wishes.

I didn't like that element of your post which didn't seem to have anything to do within any sort of context with the rest of it, because I'm often quick to be labelled as such ie: utopian wishes based on an assumption surrounding the name I use, which is a hope for the Christ that was is and is to come, like the Bride and the spirit of the bride ie: an open invitation to join the circle of Christ's joy. I just felt I needed to make that distinction, having been active in this thread. The vision of God in Jesus Christ IS an idea of fulfilling utopian wishes but not for narcissistic reasons, just for what's in everyone's mutual best interest. It's a different spirit. I just wanted to make that clear.

she is a honey, i'll date her

My interest is the end of evil, and the beginning of a better world, and I think it's a good thing that for the time being she seems to be "contained" by her own actions and writings, but it's doubtful, although there's still hope I guess, that she will come to be utterly horrified by herself when looking back in the mirror from a let's say clearer POV.

What I find of interest here is that it seems to be an internet-driven phenomenon through self-reinforcement and the encouragement of other whackjobs, while at the same time, at least in this instance, that very process is the same means by which the wickedness and the evil is brought to light and, perhaps, dissolved under the glare of public scrutiny and analysis, the only problem being that she's still carrying all this # around in her head, and walking around largely a free person.

It's all over the papers here and people are a little freaked out by it, but maybe in the midst of it all, somehow she might have a horrified epiphany and start choosing something a little more on the lighter side perhaps..?

Then again I'm the eternal optimist and can't bring myself to support capital punishment for ethical reasons.

She and all her writings are definitely in the spotlight and she was talking about trying to find a weak and vulnerable type of individual, like a homeless person and you know.. and now the light of awareness surrounds her utter depravity, and in a way that's a good thing, but can the evil be somehow dealt with in this manner.

It's a strange paradox of the modern age, and my hope and prayer is that it can be contained and eventually dissolved in the light of truth and reason, and the good vibes of goodness and love.

reply to post by paperplanes


Have you read lyrics from cannibal corpse? You see, this is where it gets complicated. There are death metal bands out there that make it their career writing disgusting mantras. One would have to believe that each and every one of them are sick in the head. There was even a court case recently in Montreal where a film producer was acquitted of indecency laws. That's how gory his stuff was, pretty much everything this girl is into. I suppose the argument could be made that at least "they never eviscerated an animal" but one could also make the argument "they will eventually".

Granted, her comments are disturbing and only a righteous person would feel she can be saved. I know I am not righteous and I believe at this point in her life she is too far gone. But unfortunately or fortunately, the only thing that no one can ever take from us, even if we were buck naked standing in the street, is free will. This is a gift no matter the consequence, 7 billion people will always have. It is up to each and every one of us to decide when and where we choose to use it. While it is in my opinion she has gone over the edge, it is still just only an opinion. It is however, fact that she still has the ability to exercise her free will.

I read something once and it went a little like this:

An Indian chief was telling the young children the legends, stories and moral anecdotes of the their ancestry around the fire. "Every man has two wolves inside" he explained. "One was a fierce, ravenous wolf, violent beyond all comprehension". "Viscous and unpredictable, ready to lunge and tear at your throat, never to be trusted". "The other wolf was the opposite". "Gentle, playful, loyal, trustworthy and highly respected" he said. "A war waged on with the two wolves inside the man". A child interrupts and asks, "who wins the war?"
The chief responds, "the one you feed".

she is a sick pup, this is the type of person that we hear about after they have been caught for something big..we are getting a preview, this is not some phase she is likely a psycopath and incurable.
where is dexter when you need him

Originally posted by DarthFazer
reply to post by NewAgeMan

 

Well if she's the current incarnation and personification of evil in the world within the context of the karmic wheel of death and resurrection (see ankh), then maybe things aren't so bad after all..?

You totally lost me there, anyhoo I doubt she even understands the meaning of the symbol. Kids have always gone for that "edgy" look to rebel. It's twilight gone terribly wrong.

That's an understatement re: twilight saga.

I meant death and reincarnation on the karmic wheel ie: that while everyone has died here we all still are, that kind of thing, where stuff like this is just the last thrashing around in the abyss of the evil one, and how pathetic it is, that's the good news in all of this, if this "phenomenon" represents evil personified in this generation.

But enough with this crapola, I'm going to watch the next episode of Star Trek Next Generation instead of paying any more attention to this woman, and if I happen across her here in town somewhere, methinks I'll be heading in the other direction.