Animal killer Kayla Bourque released to live in Vancouver

Can SOMEONE PLEASE... explain to me how....

A guy that gets a license and takes a gun goes off and kills a wild buck he has no intention of eating lets it run in insane fear for 2 miles slowly bleeding to death before chopping it's head off and mounting it on the wall as a trophy like it's cool...then goes home to a wife who he makes smack his ass with a belt until he bleeds and tell him what a Bad boy he is... then gets up the next day and goes to work as a Cop for example where he drives around placing people in cuffs for social crimes and incarcerating them for minor offenses stun gunning them and putting them into situations where they will be had butt sex with by large murders before a trial in which they may well be found not guilty....

Is any better than her a girl who took out her moms poodle?

Does the license really make it okay?

Okay...she should have got a license...

wtf lol

reply to post by penninja


There is no doubt that the world is filled with abject hypocrisy and disguises the fact that they are systematically killing us off slowly, quickly and moderately. That the world is comprised of predators who take advantage of the prey around them. We are reminded of this every day. The world is comprised of leaders who are predators and the majority of the population are mere prey. This is the world we live in and there is no doubt about that. The way society has been designed to ensnare its prey, namely us makes us all hypocrites without escape.

However, I don't condone any of it. Not psycho freak girl, business men, military, animal butcheries, government, pharma corporations or any other corporations raping the planet. It is all sick and it is all wrong. I don't think that the moral of the story is that because she is in your face with the obvious killings that it is to be commended.

So if that is the moral of your story then why don't we all just flat out kill each other no holds barred.

Two wrongs don't make a right. You are given a spirit, your not just a flesh animal. This isn't the only life you get to live. This is the life that counts for it all. That part is the innate responsibility that we all must come to terms with before we die.

We are a Soul with a body not a body with a soul. We are called to higher things because we are first a Soul. It appears that this part of this entire argument is in denial of this fact treating the human like we are mere flesh things without the true life force within us that gives life to more than flesh. We are not talking about an omoeba here but rather humans endowed with far more than just evolution and flesh.

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I never never said nor do I believe a girl like this is actually a "psycho" if that is the word you want to use.

Troubled? Sure, Could use a Shrink yeah.... It just seems Waaaaaay over blown when you look at it.

Everything they say about her is fairly common of the more predatory side of human nature or the lightly troubled Young adult.

She tortured a dog she tortured a cat,,,,

People love to get all up in arms about that but honestly TRULY HONESTLY the people who scare me more are the ones who go after these people, sure she's troubled from an idealistic pov she is cruel to animals shes taking things out on a defenseless creature...

What scares me more are PEOPLE who take things OUT on PEOPLE who take things out on Animals in the exact same manner in the scheme of things.

I mean really, Ever see what we do to Pigs and Cows? Hindus might have a thing to say about that and yes they are just as smart as Dogs, Okay Cows are retarded.... but still

And sport hunting.... yeah Bambi is pretty bright and feeling too... We have a Society based around CHOICES of which animals being incredibly Cruel to for fun and sport is fine and Dandy and which aren't EXCEPT there is NOT a world wide norm on the subject.

Her CRIME by LAW what she Actually ACTED on is Only animal cruelty and it is very subjective, Americans like Dogs bad Bad Bad....Pig, let's roast that sucker, Deer perfectly fine to let it run around in excruciating pain for a few hours.

NO ONE goes to Jail for being Goth, Into BDSM, Blood Play, She "CONTEMPLATED" hurting a bum. Do you know how many BUMS get rolled every night in America? It didn't say she wanted to be a serial killer or anything she "Contemplated" killing a homeless person.

Is that insanity? It's against the law, it's COLD but a valid Intellectual argument could be made for it... it's not actually "Psycho" How far removed is her line of thought on that subject from a jack kervorkian who had many supporters?

If entire nation states have had a behavior as a social NORM it might be illegal HERE it doesn't make a person INSANE, People in this world Eat Dog, hang em from hooks take a hunters degree of pleasure from the FUN of it... we Say deer OKAY DOG No...so she's a Lunatic... a couple million Americans DO practice this behavior as SPORT, we allow it don't call them insane...

I Love the Japanese...ever see a dolphin in a net... we say HORRIFIC then... do the exact same thing to creatures we find less entertaining lol

Euthanasia is a debated topic... You can debate the rights and wrongs of letting living things suffer or mercy killing them... Dog with Rabies... Put it down, Human with schizophrenia... Lock them up and allow them to live a walking nightmare with no actual cure in sight for decades...one could argue it is better to kill them, more humane... Just saying

I don't hear her planning to blow up a school of innocents, I don't hear her wanting to stalk people in the street, she might have looked at some unseemly porn but they obviously decided it was thrill seeking NOT a sexual predatory behavior because they didn't charge her... (let me add GUYS get Pedo charges for peeing in an alley drunk...sex offender boom so she didn't do squat that abnormal in that regard)

Thing Is a couple kids... decide to off a whino in an alley for shiz and giggles... sure they get a couple of years IF they get caught and IF a cop even bothers to pursue the matter. They don't get observed for life and 47 restrictions on behavior. And it goes on every day.

She Did not show remorse.... does that actually make her a psycho... because as a culture we love Dogs. I admit it's a BIT nutty to not fake it...you gotta ask what the hell kind of cry for attention is this...because people normally go through the motions...

But really.... how many of us haven't wanted to kick a pomeranian? how many boys have shot bb's into a cat or tied fireworks to it's tail? I LOVE the heck out of my cats but at a certain age before your mind has fully developed a lot of empathy...it can be funny.

Look... when I was a kid, before we lived in a nanny society I was by the bay with my Dad, some punks were throwing alka seltzers to the seagulls... and well they kind of exploded, flapped all over the place... it WAS sick... but we did laugh, my dad laughed I laughed a lot of people laughed My pops stopped it after a bit... but some old lady started yelling horrified at first and was saying OH DEAR OH DEAR and screeching in this funny voice and tourists walking along were bombarded by birds falling from the sky and all of it.... was funny

There was another time at college...there was this patch of ice by the bus stop and it was hidden by snow.... me and my buddy sat there for an hr watching person after person walk over it and crack down on the ice and it was a riot...

So why? why do we Hunt?

Why do we like the three stooges?

Why do videos of people eating poo get Millions of clicks on you tube?

We ALL have the same reaction practically to car wreck or a guy landing on his nuts from 20 feet in the air...OOOOOOOOOO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA...Oh NOOOO

So how different are we?

She's a bit beyond... I don't think she's beyond a couple of years of therapy and knocking it into her brain that she can't just act out on her impulses even if they are correct

No remorse...

deer hunter has no remorse...

most people on trial are pretending... the guy who punched his wife in the face...he liked it lol, Most of the time he had that building up lol.

Dude that stole your car..he really only gives a damn that he got caught...save your speech to the judge buddy....

Every pot conviction in the world lol... they "aren't sorry they got high" lol



Her actual crime is animal cruelty... and NOT giving a Fudge about it...

The not giving a Fudge makes her psycho...what's actually BROKEN? her capacity to LIE Thats what makes her a psycho in the end... the part of her Brain for being full of POO doesn't work like the rest of us.... so because she's not full of it... we torture her... wonderful... Come on ask me if I give a flying frack about where the pepperoni on my Pizza came from tonight and what the pepperoni went through? Sure.... if I was in happy hippie land and I got caught by the Vegan police ...Heck I'd cry... get out of jail, but i'd be soooooooo full of crap

reply to post by penninja


Is it necessarily better?

No.

But I find a massive difference between taking out a buck in one shot (or close to it) and torturing dogs and cats with razor blades.

Originally posted by Miraj
reply to post by penninja

 

Is it necessarily better?

No.

But I find a massive difference between taking out a buck in one shot (or close to it) and torturing dogs and cats with razor blades.

Observing the observational hunting norms of society eh?

That's fine and dandy

but not real

I worked for a few weeks until i was nauseated at a large hunting establishment I called guys on the phone to sell them packages..."HAVE YOU GOT YOUR BROWN BEAR YET?....SURE WE HAVE TRIPS FOR THE HANDICAPPED"

Have you ever seen a guy in a wheel chair take down his brown bear from a tower on an enclosed range and hoot and holler for Joy?

One shot? Try Six or Seven over a half hr, Ever see a Newb go for an Elk with a Bow? Walking for 2-3 hrs after it takes a single to the rump in constant flight for it's doomed life.

Again... Tuna fishing Dolphins? Couple hrs there too... alright OUR society doesn't like that...

The Avatar Mentality... Your a proper hunter

Most ain't... and the old guy in the wheel chair doesn't give a damn what it goes through in his head he's a hero... only difference to me is a license

I'm not even bagging it... We were hunter Gathers it's still there

SHE...doesn't Lie about it or rationalize it, Frankly that's a LIABILITY for HER she deserves help she doesn't know how to be fake she's in big trouble...

I also started med school and went through gross Anatomy.... (Never Finished btw)

We worked on Dead bums....

There I am in a room with dead bums and the Elite Brains of our civilization

Was there Empsthy? hell no

Pulled a timex watch out of a hobo's belly and my partner held it up to his ear and said "takes a licking and keeps on ticking" greeted by uproarious laughter

The comments and the laughter were non stop... we took pictures as pranks with faces next to bodies faces and e-mailed them with comments like "Joe's new girlfriend" One guy spread a lady legs and said hey ship this to Amtrack they need more tunnels...you were a joke if you couldn't brush aside how macabre it really was and be...of no empathy

We'd sit them up and move their mouths when professor wasn't around and do gross little skits (well lean really) things like "don't do crack betty look at me" and "hey big boy looking for a date"

we didn't care about the them, no one saw that they were once human

personally i kind of did... I opted to not be a surgeon made me uncomfortable... but i didn't loose any sleep over it I just chose computers instead...

I see it everyday.... the people she thought about killing in her head... we ALL walk by them everyday, in India the lowest caste is called "INVISIBLES" and we all mostly treat them the same, some give a quarter or a buck others...like Half just want them to drop dead anyway, pass them buy knowing full well this person might not make it through the night without help....

Isn't that complicity to murder?

reply to post by penninja


I've been following along with your posts and even though I want to reactively disagree with you, you do make some valid points. However, I think you are trying to simplify it too much as just a dominant primordial gene. Yes, we all have a dark side, but what separates "us" from "them" is the ability of self-control. Self-control embedded in the fabric of a successful gene pool. Carrying on to the next generation of successful sociopaths who do not need to be reminded daily that you can not lunge at an opponents throat in the board room.

Somewhere throughout evolution we have shed off those instinctive attributes and have replaced them with a higher awareness. Drawing comparisons with evolution and that of a child to adulthood should be considered a fair and accurate analogy. No child is born with empathy extending beyond their immediate world. Other than bunnies and baby ducks, children couldn't give a damn about you and me. We've rolled through the dark ages and iron maidens, conquered racism relative to the 60's and we've burned the braziers paving the way to women of power. We've accomplished a lot and there is no intention of ever going backwards, only forwards. Linear like time.

I read your words without judgement and have reserved most of my thoughts while absorbing your point of view. I do find you are correct in many of your assumptions. I don't believe like most people she should be locked away nor have her rights revoked for the rest of her life as a psychologist suggested. But not giving a fudge might not be exactly what she wants.

We all have a dark side, every one of us. It's true. But we all have a light side as well. The proverbial devil and angel sitting on the shoulder. The narcissism in her behavior, one would believe, led to her loose lips which allowed her to be discovered. Perhaps she wanted to be discovered. Subconsciously she new she can not contain the beast within and had to yap. Repeatedly. One can only assume that an evil genius, devote Dexter fan and serial murder groupie, would know to never to reveal a plan. You say she's just so raw and real she can't keep it a secret but that would only go against her true intentions of being a true serial murderer. In other words, she didn't have the right stuff, after all.

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I would say that that is simply a form of desensitization, not necessarily a lack of empathy in the same terms of psychopathic behavior. Of course it would be related to a sociopathic tendency as sociopaths are "made" not born (as are psychopaths).

It surely isn't going to lead to any murdering from these individuals, otherwise we'd see some indication within statistics that show a lot more doctors and nurses murdering others. Would we not?

If these classmates of yours had no previous connection to death (from school dissections and so on) and they would still naturally make those jokes, then and only then would it be a possibility that that lack of empathy may be more inherent to them. But, even then it may still only be a form of mental protection to allow them to deal with such images and thoughts that a normal individual would likely not see and have to endure as often.

Originally posted by penninja
Doesn't Sarah palin do crap like this to animals all the time... Chop off turkey heads, shoot wolves from a plane? Killed a few Bears in her time?

Anyone want to put money on Sarah ever having had spanked a man or used a whip IN PRIVATE

Narcissist... "I think I should rule the United States" certainly applies

How is killing a majestic creature like a Wolf to "help maintain balance in nature" worse than killing some inbred yappy ass dog with no purpose, I KNOW that's the kind of DOG because A: a Big dog would have kicked her butt... B: Thats the kind of dog that a mom who ignores a troubled Teen has ...That and frequent bottles of merlot and anti depressants lol

You're going to compare hunters with sicko's?

Unless you only eat bean sprouts and tofu and wear nothing made of leather you're throwing up a strawman,


I'm no fan of Palin's politics, but I am a hunter, and I know that the Palins don't thrill shoot, they eat what they kill.

I've been hunting for 35 years and I have yet to meet a hunter that doesn't eat his kills.

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I'm by all means no hunter, nor very educated in hunting. But, I was under the impression that sport-hunters don't eat what they kill. Hence the title of hunting for sport. Hunting purely for the biggest, most extravagant, or possibly dangerous prey with the only intention of a trophy, not food.

If that is indeed a true impression on what hunting for sport really means, then how can a hunter of 35 years not no a single one who never hunts with at least the secondary intention for food?

PS: not meaning to be offensive, this is only an impression of what I've noticed.

Regardless, I don't consider a person who hunts for any means to have sociopathic tendencies. It would have to be an individual who displays such tendencies, not the group.

Here's something that hasn't been said by the media yet.

Just found her Photobucket Account. Interesting gifs (and also a warning because they are quite gruesome)

s209.beta.photobucket.com...

Originally posted by Ghost147
Here's something that hasn't been said by the media yet.

Just found her Photobucket Account. Interesting gifs (and also a warning because they are quite gruesome)

s209.beta.photobucket.com...

If that does indeed belong to her...yes that is seriously disturbing.

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It does. Some of the titles of the photo's are from "Killa Berserk" which is the name she uses for her horrorcore rap stuff. Followed by "Lustmord" which I think is also part of her 'music'.

Originally posted by Ghost147
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I'm by all means no hunter, nor very educated in hunting. But, I was under the impression that sport-hunters don't eat what they kill. Hence the title of hunting for sport. Hunting purely for the biggest, most extravagant, or possibly dangerous prey with the only intention of a trophy, not food.

If that is indeed a true impression on what hunting for sport really means, then how can a hunter of 35 years not no a single one who never hunts with at least the secondary intention for food?

PS: not meaning to be offensive, this is only an impression of what I've noticed.

Regardless, I don't consider a person who hunts for any means to have sociopathic tendencies. It would have to be an individual who displays such tendencies, not the group.

edit on 12/1/13 by Ghost147 because: (no reason given)

The term you are looking for is "trophy" hunter, not "Sport".

And no, I've never met a trophy hunter.

Calling yourself a trophy hunter is a good way to get your butt kicked in my neck of the woods.

a reply to: RandyBragg

she is a psychopath

she needs to be locked up and disposed of

a reply to: forestBeacon

... this thread is 3 years old. No need to bring it back to life.

That being said, her psychologist actually stated she isn't a psychopath, nor a sociopath. She is simply beyond obsessed with gore and murder that she feels compelled to commit it.

Since she doesn't have a personality disorder (in the sense of antisocial personality disorder, at least) then it means she can actually be treated, not just watched without hope of improvement.

It's been proven that locking up people with antisocial personality disorder actually worsens their personality disorder, not improves it.

a reply to: FlySolo

Vancouver is in Canada is that right? I am not good at cities is this America or Canada?

a reply to: lovetogolfinflorida

Google would answer that for you. But yes, Canada.

Since we're bringing the topic back after 3 years, I took a look to see what the latest status is on her. It appears she broke probation once by going online. But earlier this year, she has been granted two hours of unescorted visits in public on Thursdays from 9am to 11am.

Unescorted Visits

MAYBE she's available for OFFICE?
I 'm sure Hillary would relate if she won.
THAT is why there is NO SUCH thing as innocence by insanity that can be cured.
Killing is killing and if I were to become SANE after acts like that I would WANT to be incarcerated.
THIS is just waiting the first human death to show up.