Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by windword
You haven't looked. You haven't researched. You haven't ever even thought of anything that you weren't taught about the Bible and its stories.
That's absolutely not true and you know it. We had this discussion in another thread, remember?
I remember giving up on our conversation and continuing with 2 other members who were aware of El Elyon and the falseness of Yahweh.
I never came across anything that proved that El Elyon and Yahweh were two separate entities, did you? I don't remember you ever coming up
with an answer for that one either. The only thing we all came up with were verses where "God Most High" was mentioned in different places, but did
not show any disconnect from Yahweh.
"When El Elyon gave to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of men, he fixed the bounds of the peoples according to the
number of the sons of God. For Yahweh's portion is his people, Jacob his allotted inheritance."
Deuteronomy 32:8 from the Dead Sea Scrolls
It's right there. You only see and hear what you want to.
The very fact that your Bible, if you go look, doesn't say this. This is proof that Hebrew scribes tampered with the text to eliminate the mention of
El Elyon, to perpetrate their agenda, or Yahweh's lie that he is the supreme God. That agenda began to become exposed with the discovery of the Dead
Sea Scrolls, in 1947.
Your just the same as all the other typical Christians who, when they hear of evidence that their comfortable religious belief may not be based in
truth, put there fingers in their ears and sing LaLaLa LaLaLa.
The fact is the Old Testament inserts Yahweh's name all over the Bible, where it doesn't belong, like Noah's flood.
I'm not understanding your point. Jesus said that no man had seen God or had ascended to the Father but him. We know that Moses was given special
rights to see God as a burning bush, etc. We know God came as a cloud to lead them out of Egypt. We know Moses and others heard his voice, but not
often for fear of death.
What it means is that none of them had seen God the way that Jesus has, in his full form.
I love how you believe that you have the right to translate the meaning of words, that are clear to understand, with your own pre-conceived ideas.
Adam saw God and heard his voice, Abraham saw God and heard his voice, so did his wife Sarah, Noah probably saw God, but heard God's voice, according
to the Bible. Moses heard God and saw god on numerous occasions. Even his wife, Zappora, saw God and challenged him.
24 And it came to pass by the way in the inn, that the Lord met him (Moses), and sought to kill him.
25 Then Zipporah took a sharp stone, and cut off the foreskin of her son, and cast it at his feet, and said, Surely a bloody husband art thou to me.
26 So he let him go: then she said, A bloody husband thou art, because of the circumcision.
There are numerous other examples in the Old Testament where God is heard. That God is Yahweh, not El Elyon.
If you want to believe that that intolerant. blood thirsty guy from the O.T. who is responsible for oppressing, murdering, enslaving, raping and
plundering, you go ahead. Me, I'm interested in finding the peaceful and loving God that Jesus talked about.
The Bible is full of holes, mistranslations, stolen myths and contradictions. You'll never convince me otherwise.
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