posted on Dec, 14 2012 @ 09:06 AM
Originally posted by dominicus
Where's your logic in art, in selflessness, in abstract conceptual thought, in a vast array of branches of existence. Logic itself will deduce that
logic is limited. Let's not bring limited modes of thought to try and fathom and put limits on the unfathomable and unlimited. (Like bringing a
squirt gun to an atomic war).
Art is literally the human mind's attempt to preserve its identity beyond the moment, and hopefully to enable it to survive the death of its material
brain. This is the logical impetus behind all human expression, and especially artistic expression. Raw survival of self. This is also the basis of
the biological imperative, only in that case, it is the body's DNA directives that are demanding identity survival by way of extending that
identity's reach beyond the physical confines of the corporeal whole.
Selflessness is less obvious, but no less rooted in survival. In this case, it is survival of "kind", which is a survival dictate that is focused on
the next higher holon level of identity - community. In some human minds, that next level is species. For some, it's focused even higher up the holon
"tree" than that, with genus, or even known reality itself as the holon umbrella group whose survival is being preserved. The human mind is the
"wild card" in these determinations, but even though the focus is open to a wide variety of specificities, the base impetus isn't. It's always
"survival of kind" that drives all efforts.
That survival requirement is at the base of all logic within whichever realm one is operating within. It is the fundamental yes versus no of "does it
work or doesn't it?". If it does work, and primordial survival is achieved (this can be as simple as a successful orbit, which allows an identified
event trajectory to "survive" for an extended span of existence) then it will be allowed to happen again. If it doesn't work (it's hard to point
to an example of this, since we exist so far along the success chain of logical "yeses") then it's never allowed on the "do this" list. It may
reoccur from time to time, but if it failed once at the primordial level, then it'll always fail again.
We call this very simple "yes-no" survival enterprise LOGIC. We didn't invent logic. We just labeled it as soon as we realized that it exists and
that we can take advantage of it - which we do, all the time.
Reality really isn't mysterious. It's just the rinse-repeat scaling of extremely simple requirements being met by whatever it takes to meet those
requirements. When you start scaling this basic structure to the amazing levels that exist all around us, it can seem supernatural. But, it's really
just a case of enormous scale, and how complex that sort of structure appears at that scale level.