posted on Dec, 13 2012 @ 02:53 PM
Originally posted by NorEaster
Originally posted by BravoBull
reply to post by NorEaster
Are you talking about a mathematical concept of infinity? I think your intent was to "debunk" God, which is fine. You can say that God does not
exist and you can say there is no evidence.
This is much more substantial than that.
I'm sure you're very proud of your idea and your rhyme, but it is very light on substance. What do you call pi or an any irrational
Those numbers start. Infinity doesn't start. It has no confines, no boundaries. It is beginningless and endless. But that's just some of what infinity
is. Its also infinitely large and infinitely small. This equation 1-x-2 can exist on a blackboard and represent an "infinite" array for possible
numbers, but in physical reality, the quantum unit eliminated that infinite number of possible things that x can represent. That's why quantum physics
changed the entire world of science. It quantized reality, and that allowed physicists to get a firm handle on how reality can be leveraged on behalf
of science and technology. There'd be no space program if infinity hadn't been debunked by quantum physics, and yet here we are in 2012, with most lay
people completely unaware that this change in the perception of reality, and how it can be leveraged, is why technology is as advanced as it is.
Numbers are conceptual placeholders. They aren't physically real.
The problem with the God debunkers or the atheist debunkers is that it is predicated on the assumption that they have all the information to
validate their positions, but what I've learned is that the more I know, the more I realize I don't know. It doesn't really matter one way or the
other. It is the journey that matters and the journey is really what is in the now. Which I think you alluded to in your rhyme at the end of the
video. It seems that you have some good ideas, or I should say that I think agree with some of your ideas, but your initial premise and the
judgmental way you present it seems a little incongruous, but that is only MHO. Maybe I'm not understanding what your point is. If your point is
that these concepts are just words to categorize, quantify and describe what the rational mind can't really comprehend, then I agree. But the
mathematical concept of infinity is a different matter and you seem to blur the 2.
The mathematical concept of infinity has never been embraced as representative of actual material reality. That's never been true. It's the same with
the bastardization that happened to Newton's 1st Law of Thermodynamics, and how the statement "energy cannot be created nor destroyed" has been
translated into the claim that energy itself has the same infinite properties as the traditional God being is said to possess. And that claim is
really easy to debunk.
Still, the folks who steer popular mythology have never been willing to let go of their power over the minds of the average person who is just trying
to get through the next week without losing too much of what they've worked so hard to gather together. It's a;ways been those predators who've
translated reality for the rest of the human herd, and this time, they've got hundreds of millions of people expecting a major cataclysm in 8 days'
time. And after that date passes, they'll pop another something-or-other together to keep those people staring ahead and standing in line, just like
And the most powerful weapon they have is the myth that reality is literally unknowable for the unaided human mind. And that's just not true. If one
realization can have the greatest impact on the lives of the greatest amount of people, it's the realization that life and reality is NOT unknowable,
and that what's real is perceivable for any one of us by simply looking around and realizing that the mundane that sits right there in front of us is
literally comprised of the fundamentals of true reality. That there isn't a hidden reality that only the initiated can reveal to us. That's just a
boondoggle, and it's always been a boondoggle. Reality is easy to know, and that's because its basic structure is threaded throughout every bit of
what exists and is commonly available at all times.
No formula on a blackboard is going to change that fact. Formulas are created by human minds. Human minds are the result of the basics of reality.
edit on 12/13/2012 by NorEaster because: (no reason given)