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Originally posted by Honor93
well, it seems your inability to be civil is a character flaw ... sooooo ... sticks and stones friend ... name-calling is for losers
Originally posted by NavyDoc
reply to post by Honor93
Again, you are being stupid. I used "firefighters" as an example of an individual employed by the government. You said that there were no federal firefighters. I showed you that, in fact, there were. You are trying to weasel out of your stupid, ignorant, comments.
coming from the man who recommends everyone just take their poison and quit whining
Originally posted by Honor93
ummm, ABSOLUTELY and as recently as 1974.
Originally posted by NavyDoc
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by beezzer
That's your wife? I am seriously sorry for you. Also, I believe she can speak for herself. Despite tradition, women are quite capable of handling themselves.
Also, too few people have too much. That's why food stamps were made necessary, because the people who had plenty kept it from the people who had too little. Capitalism and gluttony is a very bad mixture.
Dude, you have seen too many Scrooge McDuck cartoons. You honestly believe that people with more intentionally kept food away from those who had less in the US? In the last 100 years?
here, i'll post it again in case you or others missed it ...now, when ppl are hungry, there is no such thing as a surplus of food, period.
want some truth ?? read this
[if you dis the souce, fine, find another, the truth is reported by those who know, on both sides]
www.downsizinggovernment.org...
The USDA’s food subsidy programs developed out of the need to dispose of farm production deemed surplus under commodity price support programs.
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Farm and food subsidy programs provide both rural and urban legislators reasons to vote for increased USDA funding.
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[color=amber]The solution is to repeal both farm and food subsidies, and allow open market competition to cut food prices for all families.
and, in case you missed the 70s, some of us endured food rations, severe gas shortages and a persistent recession with tax rates over 70% ... seriously.
thank you and i should probably just mind my own biz but i thought i was helping.
Originally posted by NarrowGate
reply to post by Honor93
I do appreciate the time and effort you put into that.
I already know it though, what happened what Macman thought me and afterinfinity were the same person, and decided to be deceptive or funny, idk which one, by CHANGING my name at the top of the quote to afterinfinity, at which point when I RE QUOTED his quote, AfterInfinity assumed I was the one responsible for the deception.
This is only part of the reason for my new signature
I was saying that in reference to the people that were commenting about Christianity, not pushing my beliefs though (not saying you said that, just clarifying).
no need to defend him.
Originally posted by NarrowGate
reply to post by Honor93
In his defense, he said drug test not drugs.
I don't see what a police force has to do with a firearm. Police are a reactionary force. I know 2 people that have found themselves in grave need of a firearm in "civilian" life. One got a bullet in the head. The other, who had a firearm, did not get hit thank the Lord Jesus Christ. The perpetrator actually shot himself one time as well. Had he not had his weapon, he would likely be in a morgue or wheelchair.
How does this relate to welfare? I hope that is obvious, but I can explain if anyone is having problems grasping the concept due to misconceptions propagated by our schools and media.edit on 11-12-2012 by NarrowGate because: (no reason given)
... well, if i was starving and armed, not a likely scenario, but, i'd probably use it too.
how does this relate to welfare?
neither did you.
You didn't talk about "down the block"
oh no, you're seriously mistaken.
Raising children for the state, that is what you implied by saying that parenting was a community service.
i'm glad to hear that, any chance you can provide the proverbial "proof"
I raise my kids to be independent, educated, self-reliant, and honest adults.
trick question ... not fair
Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by Honor93
steamboats do NOT transport goods any longer and haven't for quite some time.
Guess what drives the turbines that turn the propshaft on a nuclear submarine... or a nuclear powered aircraft carrier?
If you said steam.... you got it right.
Originally posted by Honor93
reply to post by NavyDoc
believe what you will, firefighters are not the subject of this thread.
far be it from you to let a horrible derail attempt fall to the wayside
... sooooo gentlemanly and all
neither did you.
You didn't talk about "down the block"
nor did you specify Federal firefighters until you were called out on it.
like i said before, your poor English isn't my fault.
i explain my own bad English, you can do the same or suffer the confusion, you created.
oh no, you're seriously mistaken.
Raising children for the state, that is what you implied by saying that parenting was a community service.
i implied that parents (simply by being parents) provide a VITAL community service.
not that they are a community service.
just like your firefighters, they are contracted to/thru and with that entire community for as long as they are there.
of course, it is not a written contract, nor does it have an expiration date, but, it is a verbal contract all the same and is fulfilled without any expectation of just compensation for the effort.
(and in some cases, longer if they invest in the community but choose to live elsewhere)
i'm glad to hear that, any chance you can provide the proverbial "proof"
I raise my kids to be independent, educated, self-reliant, and honest adults.
i agree with this comment entirely (except i wasn't talking about you specifically ... shouldn't have used 'everyone', sorry)
I am not screaming for none, but the problem is much biggervthan a lot would like to admit.
Take the guy I gave as an example. I know that he does it and has been doing it for years. I do not live in the city. I do not shop in his stores. Yet, I know that he is doing it. Are you going to tell me that the police DON'T know that he's doing it?
The whole effing system is crooked.
you can say whatever you like, it still doesn't make it so.
What can I say? THe definition of commodity was clearly defined for you and it does not say that in order to be a commodity it has to be traded, just wanted. If you want to make up your own definitions, go ahead, but that does not change the definitions. Of course one could say that foodstamps are indeed traded--for votes.
now, even with all that variety, you still cannot squeeze a food stamp allotment into the mix.
1: an economic good: as a : a product of agriculture or mining b : an article of commerce especially when delivered for shipment c : a mass-produced unspecialized product
2a: something useful or valued ; also : thing, entity
b : convenience, advantage
3: obsolete : quantity, lot
4: a good or service whose wide availability typically leads to smaller profit margins and diminishes the importance of factors (as brand name) other than price
5: one that is subject to ready exchange or exploitation within a market
you did.
No one said that we needed federal firefighters,
quote it or quit lying ... that seems to be all you're capable of in this thread.
You say that your labor cannot be taken form you without your consent, but when you demand that someone's taxes go to subsidizing someone else, that is exactly what you are endorsing.
yeppers, you've got this lying thing down pat
Unlike you, I believe the government should not force anyone to do anything, be it take a vaccine or support someone else financially.
actually, i don't. i want government to get the heck outta the way.
You want government to force people to behave in ways you approve of, but not in others.
“I like to believe that people in the long run are going to do more to promote peace than our governments. Indeed, I think that people want peace so much that one of these days governments had better get out of the way and let them have it.”
yep, as in quicksand and sinking fast
My stance is more consistent.
well, if you say so and in a sense of verbatim, it isn't gonna.
That quote did not say that the wealthy were intentionally keeping food from the poor
i don't recall denying they exist. i denied "taxpayers contracted them" ... which WE didn't.
You are the one who stated that there are no federal firefighters and I just showed how you were incorrent.
actually, they aren't.
I used a firefighter as an example of how a taxpayer contracts for a service and that the funds for that service are differnet for funds for welfare.
Originally posted by Honor93
well, if you say so and in a sense of verbatim, it isn't gonna.
That quote did not say that the wealthy were intentionally keeping food from the poor
however, it does demonstrate how it was done and is still done today.
when ppl are starving, there is NO SURPLUS but you keep believing it was necessary to destroy available food in exchange for an empty promise ... $$$$$$$$$ prices and all
nope, no destruction there ... not food, not faith, not confidence and certainly not economic stability.
yes, there certainly was food rationing.
in my region it lasted most all winter long.
again, not this topic but as usual, you just can't resist.
"gas price controls to help the poor" ???
ahahahahahahahaha, where did you get that little gem ?
Originally posted by Honor93
reply to post by NavyDoc
pick a post, when did i call you a name ??
i referred to one poster as "grasshopper" (not even sure if that was you at the moment) and that's hardly derrogatory.
so, i'll be the fire and burn ya, how's that mr kettle-pot ?
yep, i said that, so ?
nope, not in this thread.
i'm fed up with your persistent derail attempts anyway.
ramble on all you want ... your total disrespect is evident all over this place and i'm not about to follow your lead.
ya know, ethics are a funny thing ... they don't exist until they're exercised and yours seem to be misplaced.
i am curious, how do you figure vaccines or any of your commentary about that subject applies here ?
and, if i remember correctly, i didn't mention vaccines at all, did i ?
[ interesting that you'd perceive, "take your poison and quit whining about it", relates to vaccines ... hmmmm, guilty conscience, maybe ? ]
The phrase "The pot calling the kettle black" is an idiom used to claim that a person is guilty of the very thing of which they accuse another.
2a: something useful or valued ; also : thing, entity
b : convenience, advantage
yeppers, you've got this lying thing down pat
mercury = poison,
formeldehyde = poison,
MSG = poison
but you're correct, i'm just making that up to make you look bad
firefighters are not employees of the Federal government, try again.
coming from the man who recommends everyone just take their poison and quit whining
nope but food is
Are not foodstamps something useful?
apparently not by many or they wouldn't exchange them for something with greater value,
Are they not valued?
There was regional food rationing? Where? You said it, you had all night to prove it, and you cannot. You just made that up and are yet again demonstrating a lack of truthfullness.
Comprehension is not your strong suite.
And none of that has anything to do with saying the government should force someone to take a vaccination
As for the firefighter thing.
you make # up and lie about what other members say
no, i'm proving it and dismissing it
you are just accusing me of derailment
done and you're welcome.
now you are trying to dance away from it
Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by beezzer
Too many people are on food stamps.
Mac, you can feel free to talk to my wife.