Food Stamp Use Up 1.44 million in Just One Month

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posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 08:12 AM
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Originally posted by Jeremiah65
Does no one understand the idea of dependency? Does no one get what the police/nanny state is doing? The are making you an indentured servant....how can you not see this? If you question them....good bye food stamps and hello hunger and homelessness. I am stunned...truly stunned. I thought we had a lot of people that wanted to deny ignorance but here we have a situation where the blinders are willingly put on. These "organizations" are not your friend...they are enslaving you.
edit on 12/11/2012 by Jeremiah65 because: (no reason given)


Apparently there are only a couple of us that understand it and believe in it.




posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 08:14 AM
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Originally posted by Honor93


no one is forcing anyone to do anything.
you already pay the taxes that support said program ... you've been doing it voluntarily for decades, why stop now ??


Um, income taxes are voluntary???????

I think that the HR of the company I work for would love to hear that. Along with my CPA and financial adviser.



posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 08:15 AM
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Originally posted by Honor93
why would they need to ??
are you cookin the books ??? trimming the fat, slaying the dog, slabbin a hog, what ??

Need to what?


Originally posted by Honor93
at least we agree a hungry person should come first before all luxuries.
remind me to bring a grenade to the next dinner invitation

{seems i'm gonna need it just to reach the food table}

I, personally, have no problem with helping or feeding someone in need. PERSONALLY.
Not the Govt stealing money from me, taking a percentage off the top, and then given to someone else.



posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 08:27 AM
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reply to post by Honor93
 


I have no problem with being labeled a jerk.
Sticks and stones.



posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 08:28 AM
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reply to post by Honor93
 


Go back and read the posts I started that with.
It will answer all your questions.



posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 08:29 AM
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reply to post by Honor93
 


No, as in my state, we had some wildfires that jumped to private property. They fought those fires alongside with the local firefighters.



posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 08:32 AM
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If you get off your high horse, and actually read my original post, here...reply to post by macman
 



Then, follow the chain. Not that hard to understand.



posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 08:36 AM
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It moves to prove a point.
That when the Govt can give you free stuff, it can take it away, or make you jump through hoops.
I, like the Govt, gave sirhumperdnik a crumb, much like what the Govt does. With that crumb, I have requirements, when said crumb is used/consumed, just like the Govt.

If you want to get free crap, don't bitch and moan when the master tells you to jump.

Or, be independent, and not be beholden to the Govt or me.


SEE???? That was easy.



posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 09:14 AM
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wow, talk about a high horse ... so, are you planning on providing for a particular number of starving ppl or only the ones you can see, touch, reach ?

and those you cannot reach, they are what, SOL ??

how big is your farmland ??
and how much surplus can we count on you for, say, weekly ?

don't get me wrong, i'm not arguing, just facilitating

if you're stepping up to the plate, let's get it done.

since it's your personal decision to help, there's no reason for anyone to be beholden to anyone, right ?



posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 09:18 AM
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I help who I can.

I never once offered to help everyone.
That is the job of the individuals in the given area.

But again, gloss over the whole fact that the Govt can't do anything correctly, so let's keep having them steal from some, take a large percentage off the top, and then hand it out to others. SO long as it is either "for the children" or "to help someone".



posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 09:18 AM
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Originally posted by Honor93


since it's your personal decision to help, there's no reason for anyone to be beholden to anyone, right ?


Well, if I operate like the Govt, then yes, they are beholden to me.



posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 10:27 AM
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then, someone else posted this statement for you ?

I, personally, have no problem with helping or feeding someone in need. PERSONALLY.

since you have no problem with helping, let's get it done


there are 1.44 million new recipients in just one month, so, quit with the side-stepping, passing the buck, pretending it wasn't you who offered, yadda, yadda, yadda and put your resources in action ... fellow Americans need help.
please, don't delay.



posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 11:00 AM
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I help who I can, when I can. PERSONALLY.


But, why do I need to help others, the Govt does it for me. It takes a sizable amount of MY income to provide for them.

I do love the way you attempted to corner me on what I stated. It was cute. Not very well planned out, but cute.



posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 11:05 AM
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Golly-gee-goodness-gravyboat!
(sorry about the swear)

29 pages?

For what?

One side: The government is awesome. They are taking care of people!

Other side: Of course! The government wants compliant drones and slaves and people beholding to it!

One side: Nuh-uh!

Other side: Uh-huh.



What have we accomplished here?



posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 11:14 AM
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I help who I can, when I can. PERSONALLY.


But, why do I need to help others, the Govt does it for me. It takes a sizable amount of MY income to provide for them.

I do love the way you attempted to corner me on what I stated. It was cute. Not very well planned out, but cute.


If you're posting from a personal computer, that means you have the money to afford food, a house, AND luxuries. Even after the welfare taxes are taken out.

So is taking about food stamps supposed to help the entire country, or just you? Because I have already proven that it won't even touch the national debt. You're just peeved because your surplus is used to help those who need it.

That's pretty selfish. If you don't like how America works, then leave the country. I'm sure there's much less compassionate nations that would be happy to welcome a penny-pinching miser.



posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by AfterInfinity


If you're posting from a personal computer, that means you have the money to afford food, a house, AND luxuries. Even after the welfare taxes are taken out.

Yeah, because no one on Welfare has a personal computer and internet.
And that means what??
Oh, I get it. Now YOU get to decide how much of my income I get to keep.
I get it now. I make Too much, so the Govt needs to relieve me of MY money.


Originally posted by AfterInfinity
So is taking about food stamps supposed to help the entire country, or just you? Because I have already proven that it won't even touch the national debt. You're just peeved because your surplus is used to help those who need it.

No, I am not peeved about helping people.
I am peeved that I am forced, by the Govt, to allow them to steal money, because I make a certain amount, take a large percentage of stolen money, and then give it to someone else.
I forgot, when I go to work, I am not exactly working to provide an income for myself and my family.
I have to work to provide for everyone else as well.




Originally posted by AfterInfinity
That's pretty selfish. If you don't like how America works, then leave the country. I'm sure there's much less compassionate nations that would be happy to welcome a penny-pinching miser.

Why do I need to leave a country that was not designed to operate the way that it has been bastardized into by Progressives?
How about this. If you so badly yearn for Socialism and Marxism, why don't you leave and go to a country that currently has those policies in place and was designed to operate under that?
I hear Cuba is fantastic this time of year, maybe China or Russia.

Oh, and selfish that I am tired of the Govt stealing my money to give to others???? That is funny.



posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 11:59 AM
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Yeah, because no one on Welfare has a personal computer and internet.
And that means what??
Oh, I get it. Now YOU get to decide how much of my income I get to keep.
I get it now. I make Too much, so the Govt needs to relieve me of MY money.


I still don't understand what your problem is. Are you trying to tell me that you believe you should personally judge who is worthy of being funded by your taxes? Maybe you should personally assess the congressman who will represent you, or the governor, or the President, because you clearly don't trust our elected officials to do their job.


No, I am not peeved about helping people.
I am peeved that I am forced, by the Govt, to allow them to steal money, because I make a certain amount, take a large percentage of stolen money, and then give it to someone else.
I forgot, when I go to work, I am not exactly working to provide an income for myself and my family.
I have to work to provide for everyone else as well.


Then go on food stamps, so you can enjoy too.



Why do I need to leave a country that was not designed to operate the way that it has been bastardized into by Progressives?
How about this. If you so badly yearn for Socialism and Marxism, why don't you leave and go to a country that currently has those policies in place and was designed to operate under that?
I hear Cuba is fantastic this time of year, maybe China or Russia.

Oh, and selfish that I am tired of the Govt stealing my money to give to others???? That is funny.


Stealing your money? Here's an idea: move. No one is forcing you to stay and support the government. Go to Italy or Canada.



posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by AfterInfinity


I still don't understand what your problem is.

Really, have I not stated that enough??
I guess I will state it again.
I AM TIRED OF THE GOVT STEALING MONEY FROM ME, TO GIVE TO OTHERS.
Does that clarify my position?




Originally posted by AfterInfinity
Are you trying to tell me that you believe you should personally judge who is worthy of being funded by your taxes?

No, but let's instead put Govt in charge.
See the issue.
I don't judge those I help.
But, the Govt has no business stealing from me to give to others.



Originally posted by AfterInfinity
Maybe you should personally assess the congressman who will represent you, or the governor, or the President, because you clearly don't trust our elected officials to do their job.

No, no I don't trust them.
Do you?





Originally posted by AfterInfinity

Then go on food stamps, so you can enjoy too.


Why??So I can go against my principles and live off the back of others???
Oh, that is an attempt of walking in another persons shoes.
You fail.



Originally posted by AfterInfinity

Stealing your money? Here's an idea: move. No one is forcing you to stay and support the government. Go to Italy or Canada.

Yes, stealing. Where I have no say in the Govt TAKING MY money.
I did not give permission for them to take the money.
If you were to take my money, that is theft.
But, since the Govt does this, with "good intentions", it is ok.

Why do I need to leave a country that was never designed to function in this manner?
Oh, I get that as well. You think like a Possessive, and that since it is the going thing, that I must accept it.
Yeah, still don't see food stamps in the Constitution or Bill of Rights.



posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 02:14 PM
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Well Macman...you have fought the good fight on this thread and I give you a tip of the hat. You have stood by your ideals and have defended them in the face of being called terrible things.

All I want is for people to come to grips with something. No "business" does anything without expecting something in return. Sadly....our Gov is a business. It does not offer help without expecting something back. They are enslaving us and no one seems to get it. They are demanding we act this way or that and in exchange...you get to eat today. Does no one else see a problem with this?

I do not understand why some of our brethren want to think the Gov is a friend....that it is somehow beneficial. I hate to break this to you, but you are suffering from a blinding of the eyes. What we now live under is no different than a Monarchial system...your "King" expects certain things and he will have them or else. Sure...the faces change...but the monster...the power behind the throne...is still there...still reaching into your pocket and standing on your throat.

I can only hope that one day people will come to understand the beauty of Liberty...the wonderfulness of freedom. That in it's most pure form...Anarchy is not a bad-bad thing...when we have evolved to be capable of self governing...when we know what is right and what is wrong and choose to do right...that is when the skies will split...that is when the words of Christ will be understood...."The kingdom of heaven is within men"...we have the power to make a perfect world...but we choose not to.



posted on Dec, 12 2012 @ 02:16 PM
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Thanks for the kind words.

Will people trade freedom for safety. That is the big question.
I guess that most will, blindly might I add.





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