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Originally posted by NarrowGate
Originally posted by NarrowGate
Originally posted by NarrowGate
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by NarrowGate
This post right here.
reply to post by NarrowGate
Not a single one of those quotes which says originally posted by AfterInfinity was actually posted by me. Scan this entire thread, you'll see I didn't post any of those quoted selections. Since you had nothing to quote, it had to be done manually, which requires a certain amount of knowing exactly what you're doing.
Originally posted by NarrowGate
Originally posted by macman
Originally posted by NarrowGate
These things are hardly comparable to being struck by lightning. Thanks for playing though
You want to play what ifs, that is a what if. I did enjoy playing. That was fun to point that out.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
I am only educated as far as a high school diploma, but they taught me about discussion and a form of logic.
Ok, now that is kind of weird, but sure.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
Then I read the Bible, and I learned about context, logic, and proper discussion! That is where most of my education lies, so don't tell me about my sentence structure.
Sure sure.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
The way it works is you brought up invalid points, I brought up valid points, you refuse to refute said valid points with anything other than "what if you get hit by lightning"...
Yeah sure.
All of those quoted sections with my username on them? Not a single one of them is legitimate. I don't know what game you're playing here, but I don't like it. Not one bit.
edit on 11-12-2012 by AfterInfinity because: (no reason given)
I did not manually edit anything and my character would show that. i am not saying they are legitimate, I am saying I did not edit any of that. If someone did, it was not me. Mods could you shed some light on what the heck just happened and who did the editing? From my best guess, it was macman.edit on 11-12-2012 by NarrowGate because: (no reason given)
Does anyone else see this? combine that with macman's non-stop accusations and you have a good idea of what happened. I am sure it is logged for the mods to sort out.
Mods, please inform myself and AfterI of what actually happened. We have been engaging in multiple discussions, and I would like his opinion of me not to be less than it already is. No AfterI that does not mean I actually care what you think about me, but if you chose to continue one of our discussions that is somewhat important to me, this would hurt my credibility with you. I would never resort to such dishonest and childish tactics.
Originally posted by beezzer
Originally posted by sirhumperdink
what opinion beezzer? its not an opinion that producing machines is not going to employe a large percentage of the population
care to explain yourself? because im failing to see where i injected opinion into this
edit on 11-12-2012 by sirhumperdink because: (no reason given)
Your thinking is narrow. Or do you see just the employment of factory workers then end-all be-all in employment?
Your "opinion" that factory workers are the only employment for people is a narrow-minded opinion.
People create, people innovate, if the freedoms that they are born with are not denied or inhibited by draconian government rule.
Hope this clears it up for you.
(doubt it though)
Originally posted by sirhumperdink
Originally posted by beezzer
Originally posted by sirhumperdink
what opinion beezzer? its not an opinion that producing machines is not going to employe a large percentage of the population
care to explain yourself? because im failing to see where i injected opinion into this
edit on 11-12-2012 by sirhumperdink because: (no reason given)
Your thinking is narrow. Or do you see just the employment of factory workers then end-all be-all in employment?
Your "opinion" that factory workers are the only employment for people is a narrow-minded opinion.
People create, people innovate, if the freedoms that they are born with are not denied or inhibited by draconian government rule.
Hope this clears it up for you.
(doubt it though)
sure but im not just talking factory jobs im talking about everything from cashiers to accountants and lawyers
and i agree with what you are saying but all that really leaves is abstract thought and intellectual property and how is that going to work when money and resources has already been concentrated into so few hands? you will see the same things happening again because they already have much higher leverage
what happens to all the people that have been conditioned for generation after generation to be as near as possible to a nonthinking worker drone who will not be able to adapt to the new market place? we just use them and toss them out like garbage?edit on 11-12-2012 by sirhumperdink because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by NarrowGate
Originally posted by NarrowGate
Originally posted by NarrowGate
Originally posted by NarrowGate
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by NarrowGate
This post right here.
reply to post by NarrowGate
Not a single one of those quotes which says originally posted by AfterInfinity was actually posted by me. Scan this entire thread, you'll see I didn't post any of those quoted selections. Since you had nothing to quote, it had to be done manually, which requires a certain amount of knowing exactly what you're doing.
Originally posted by NarrowGate
Originally posted by macman
Originally posted by NarrowGate
These things are hardly comparable to being struck by lightning. Thanks for playing though
You want to play what ifs, that is a what if. I did enjoy playing. That was fun to point that out.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
I am only educated as far as a high school diploma, but they taught me about discussion and a form of logic.
Ok, now that is kind of weird, but sure.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
Then I read the Bible, and I learned about context, logic, and proper discussion! That is where most of my education lies, so don't tell me about my sentence structure.
Sure sure.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
The way it works is you brought up invalid points, I brought up valid points, you refuse to refute said valid points with anything other than "what if you get hit by lightning"...
Yeah sure.
All of those quoted sections with my username on them? Not a single one of them is legitimate. I don't know what game you're playing here, but I don't like it. Not one bit.
edit on 11-12-2012 by AfterInfinity because: (no reason given)
I did not manually edit anything and my character would show that. i am not saying they are legitimate, I am saying I did not edit any of that. If someone did, it was not me. Mods could you shed some light on what the heck just happened and who did the editing? From my best guess, it was macman.edit on 11-12-2012 by NarrowGate because: (no reason given)
Does anyone else see this? combine that with macman's non-stop accusations and you have a good idea of what happened. I am sure it is logged for the mods to sort out.
Mods, please inform myself and AfterI of what actually happened. We have been engaging in multiple discussions, and I would like his opinion of me not to be less than it already is. No AfterI that does not mean I actually care what you think about me, but if you chose to continue one of our discussions that is somewhat important to me, this would hurt my credibility with you. I would never resort to such dishonest and childish tactics.
Originally posted by Honor93
Parenting is NOT "doing nothing" ... and your aggressive instance to the opposite is rather disturbing.
contrary to your opinion, i don't believe there is any service in existence that is more important, more valuable or more contributory to a stable society than good parents and for that reason alone, they should be provided food whether they perform additional labor for it or not.
anyone who thinks parenting isn't laborious has never been one.edit on 11-12-2012 by Honor93 because: add txt
Originally posted by macman
reply to post by NarrowGate
Your doing it wrong.
long line, big hook ... sorry, not biting.
Originally posted by NavyDoc
Originally posted by Honor93
reply to post by NavyDoc
again, link it or quit with your BS cause that's all you've got apparently.
and for the record, you didn't live my life so you don't know what it's like, do you ?
Because you sad it with your "don't know what it is like" crapola
thanks for proving a non-existant point anyway
i responded to what you wrote and that indicated exactly what the response addressed.
again, your error is not mine.
although, it doesn't surprise me that you don't seem capable of admitting when you're wrong.
We weren't even talking about you so you really are off in left field yet again.. You said I didn't know what it was like to struggle financially, I did, and you went off on yet another tangent. You can't even keep up with the players on the field and keep changing what you claim to be talking about and you go on about not being capable of admitting when wrong? Geez.
Originally posted by Honor93
long line, big hook ... sorry, not biting.
Originally posted by NavyDoc
Originally posted by Honor93
reply to post by NavyDoc
again, link it or quit with your BS cause that's all you've got apparently.
and for the record, you didn't live my life so you don't know what it's like, do you ?
Because you sad it with your "don't know what it is like" crapola
thanks for proving a non-existant point anyway
i responded to what you wrote and that indicated exactly what the response addressed.
again, your error is not mine.
although, it doesn't surprise me that you don't seem capable of admitting when you're wrong.
We weren't even talking about you so you really are off in left field yet again.. You said I didn't know what it was like to struggle financially, I did, and you went off on yet another tangent. You can't even keep up with the players on the field and keep changing what you claim to be talking about and you go on about not being capable of admitting when wrong? Geez.
while this is true and i agree with the points, it does nothing to feed those who are hungry.
Originally posted by beezzer
The progressives on this site and this thread see government as a solution to all our problems.
The rest of us see government as the cause of all these problems.
Originally posted by beezzer
Originally posted by sirhumperdink
Originally posted by beezzer
Originally posted by sirhumperdink
what opinion beezzer? its not an opinion that producing machines is not going to employe a large percentage of the population
care to explain yourself? because im failing to see where i injected opinion into this
edit on 11-12-2012 by sirhumperdink because: (no reason given)
Your thinking is narrow. Or do you see just the employment of factory workers then end-all be-all in employment?
Your "opinion" that factory workers are the only employment for people is a narrow-minded opinion.
People create, people innovate, if the freedoms that they are born with are not denied or inhibited by draconian government rule.
Hope this clears it up for you.
(doubt it though)
sure but im not just talking factory jobs im talking about everything from cashiers to accountants and lawyers
and i agree with what you are saying but all that really leaves is abstract thought and intellectual property and how is that going to work when money and resources has already been concentrated into so few hands? you will see the same things happening again because they already have much higher leverage
what happens to all the people that have been conditioned for generation after generation to be as near as possible to a nonthinking worker drone who will not be able to adapt to the new market place? we just use them and toss them out like garbage?edit on 11-12-2012 by sirhumperdink because: (no reason given)
When elctricity was discovered, those in the steam industry didn't curl up and die.
They adjusted.
They adapted.
They over-came.
When VCR's became obsolete, did people fight to ban the DVD player so people could still make VCR's?
People need to adjust. They need to think. But with mama-government with her ready-made teat, why bother?
Originally posted by NarrowGate
Originally posted by NarrowGate
Originally posted by NarrowGate
Originally posted by NarrowGate
Originally posted by NarrowGate
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by NarrowGate
This post right here.
reply to post by NarrowGate
Not a single one of those quotes which says originally posted by AfterInfinity was actually posted by me. Scan this entire thread, you'll see I didn't post any of those quoted selections. Since you had nothing to quote, it had to be done manually, which requires a certain amount of knowing exactly what you're doing.
Originally posted by NarrowGate
Originally posted by macman
Originally posted by NarrowGate
These things are hardly comparable to being struck by lightning. Thanks for playing though
You want to play what ifs, that is a what if. I did enjoy playing. That was fun to point that out.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
I am only educated as far as a high school diploma, but they taught me about discussion and a form of logic.
Ok, now that is kind of weird, but sure.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
Then I read the Bible, and I learned about context, logic, and proper discussion! That is where most of my education lies, so don't tell me about my sentence structure.
Sure sure.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
The way it works is you brought up invalid points, I brought up valid points, you refuse to refute said valid points with anything other than "what if you get hit by lightning"...
Yeah sure.
All of those quoted sections with my username on them? Not a single one of them is legitimate. I don't know what game you're playing here, but I don't like it. Not one bit.
edit on 11-12-2012 by AfterInfinity because: (no reason given)
I did not manually edit anything and my character would show that. i am not saying they are legitimate, I am saying I did not edit any of that. If someone did, it was not me. Mods could you shed some light on what the heck just happened and who did the editing? From my best guess, it was macman.edit on 11-12-2012 by NarrowGate because: (no reason given)
Does anyone else see this? combine that with macman's non-stop accusations and you have a good idea of what happened. I am sure it is logged for the mods to sort out.
Mods, please inform myself and AfterI of what actually happened. We have been engaging in multiple discussions, and I would like his opinion of me not to be less than it already is. No AfterI that does not mean I actually care what you think about me, but if you chose to continue one of our discussions that is somewhat important to me, this would hurt my credibility with you. I would never resort to such dishonest and childish tactics.
Originally posted by Honor93
while this is true and i agree with the points, it does nothing to feed those who are hungry.
Originally posted by beezzer
The progressives on this site and this thread see government as a solution to all our problems.
The rest of us see government as the cause of all these problems.
atm, that is the ONLY problem we are discussing (or are supposed to be)
Originally posted by sirhumperdink
were not talking about an upgrade were talking about the unfair exploitation of low conditions in foreign countries and the increase of machine labor that is going to make domestic (and eventually most all) jobs a thing of the past for most people while allowing a few to become extraordinarily wealthy
i cant see how the current model will continue to work and its already failing
the world has changed and we cant continue to institute systems of commerce and economics that were developed to function in much different circumstances
this grab what you can mentality will be the end of us if we dont "adjust" to the changing circumstancesedit on 11-12-2012 by sirhumperdink because: (no reason given)
No it didn't.
the steam industry did die
Originally posted by beezzer
Originally posted by sirhumperdink
were not talking about an upgrade were talking about the unfair exploitation of low conditions in foreign countries and the increase of machine labor that is going to make domestic (and eventually most all) jobs a thing of the past for most people while allowing a few to become extraordinarily wealthy
i cant see how the current model will continue to work and its already failing
the world has changed and we cant continue to institute systems of commerce and economics that were developed to function in much different circumstances
this grab what you can mentality will be the end of us if we dont "adjust" to the changing circumstancesedit on 11-12-2012 by sirhumperdink because: (no reason given)
If people keep thinking with their "VCR" mentality, then they will forever be denied the oppourtunities that "DVD's" can provide.
If you get my analogy.
And the government does nothingto promote DVD mentality. They keep whispering "betamax".