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Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by Wandering Scribe
I don't know..Jesus Christ as the manifestation of the love of the Godhead is about as "personal" as one can get, and very powerful also.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by vethumanbeing
I seriously doubt you could be more confusing if you tried. Can you clarify what you just posted?
Originally posted by Wandering Scribe
reply to post by vethumanbeing
As for Wikipedia, there's absolutely no reason to distrust any of its individual articles. Find me a content-based error on Wikipedia, which has remained unseen for more than a months time, and I'll admit that Wikipedia is an unreliable source. Often times the people who rally against Wikipedia are the people who don't like the idea of information being freely shared. They want only their version of the "truth" to be presented, as opposed to all possibilities. Go and correct something on Wikipedia if you think it is wrong. Then watch as a discussion page opens and individuals (scholarly and otherwise) from the field talk about whether your change is relevant, or not. You won't find that type of free exchange on Conservapedia; that's for sure.
~ Wandering Scribe
Originally posted by Wandering Scribe
reply to post by vethumanbeing
Sorry for not responding sooner.
I happen to have been abducted by aliens from Zeta Reticuli. They brought me through the depths of space using black holes and wormholes so that I could see their wonderful labyrinthine home planet. It was all quite wonderful, filled with Cyclopean Masonry and diamond-encrusted plants.
But then they told me that I had been specifically selected to make the interstellar journey, because a great primal fiend was waking in the depths of their emerald-colored sea. A behemoth of incalculable height was rising in the distance; it was covered in tentacles, with serpentine sea-monsters for feet, and stood as high as the atmosphere on the beautiful planet we occupied.
So I went to train with a nomadic magi named Me'eroquai in the endless desert portion of the planet. He taught me to harness my internal force, something they called Tai'ca. Through inner-mind meditation, and a combination of Yoga with Tai Chi I mastered my daemon and joined the Zeta Reticuli legion in their gathering strength to challenge the fiend.
We fought for what seemed like decades against the Nameless fiend. I learned that time passed more slowly on Zeta Reticuli than here on Earth. For every minute our our time, a week of theirs had occurred. After nearly a century of endless fighting against the fearsome creature, we slew it. As it's hellish body collapsed into the emerald-colored sea, the Zetan's began to populate it. As I later learned, every couple of millenia, when the stars are properly aligned, a new Nameless fiend rises from the depths, and in its slaying, a new continent is added to the beautiful planet.
As I was about to marry the Princess of the new continent, setting me up to be its future-king, I was unexpectedly swallowed up by a roaming black hole, which walked right on up to me and sucked me in. I was lost within a dimension of sightless vision, scentless smells, quiet noises, bland tastes, and empty sensations. I tumbled through the empty clutter, forever remaining still, until I ended up where I had always been. And then I fell up into a black hole that was in the middle of a supernova and the entire dimension experienced a vacuum meta-stability event.
Oh, the things I saw then.
I saw creation created by an uncreative creature with creative capabilities capable of creating creative creatures.
I watched God being birthed from the Empty Void at the ending of all beginnings.
And then I woke up in a ditch on the side of route 66.
But none of that matters, because I absolutely couldn't wait to get back here and start bickering with your inane statements again. Oh, no way. Forget about everything you just read, that life, it pales when compared to the thought of sitting through another reading of one of your absolutely placid comments. They're so inspiring to read!
I absolutely couldn't wait to finish up the things I had been doing the past few days, so I could come back here and talk with you some more.
~ Wandering Scribe
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
Thread Title = The AGE OLD question? WHERE IS and who is ACTUALLY talking to God, aka Source Entity or Origin,
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
Where are they? Source Entity and Origin? Why have we been left alone for so long? Why the awful lingering silence and where are their mouthpieces? Is there no one in existance that speaks to them for them (other than the papal which is not viable) and can let the humble simple dumbed down human know its fate?
Originally posted by Joecroft
reply to post by vethumanbeing
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
Thread Title = The AGE OLD question? WHERE IS and who is ACTUALLY talking to God, aka Source Entity or Origin,
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
Where are they? Source Entity and Origin? Why have we been left alone for so long? Why the awful lingering silence and where are their mouthpieces? Is there no one in existance that speaks to them for them (other than the papal which is not viable) and can let the humble simple dumbed down human know its fate?
I could just answer this directly, but where would the fun be in that?…(Rhetorical question…so no need to bust a brain vessel lol or anything here... not yet anyway)
What we need here is the epitome of “play time fun”, the “crem de la crem” of wordsmithery riddles, par! excellence!, that no bird can deny. You see, the truth, as is so often the case, is hidden within a well known riddle.
And here it is….(Drum Roll)
“Can God create a rock, so heavy, that he cannot lift it?”
This question was originally posed as an argument, to try and disprove the existence of an all-powerful and omnipotent God. Which is kind of ironic lol
There have been many answers proposed to this above riddle, but once one finds the correct answer to it; then the answer in itself, leads to a greater realization, if one can see it.
- JC
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
I am not going to say it, I promised myself.
Within your truth you have recognised something. Well done; this type of discussion is far from over and my objective?
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
If there was any question ever posited you would think any curious person (regarding itself and its relationship to a God entity) would want to explore this mystery, their own truths known or unknown, and would be crawling al over this thread: as those replying might have some useful ideas (as to the best place to go for dinner tonight).
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
The lifting of rocks heavy- I know there are some 2 million insect species and cannot name them; mankind has named about a million.
Healing religions? You are right on that one who would want to; let timed events (as located inserts of) take care of it. This is already done was planned for years ago; having to outsmart those thinking they were in charge. A question, who do you think is in charge of this planet, and to get back to my OP statement? (so long ago) any ideas regarding who is talking to God and if so why are they not telling?
Originally posted by Wandering Scribe
reply to post by vethumanbeing
The idea of bloodlines and no genetic markers for inbreeding is way too conspiratorial for my liking. If researchers performed tests and discovered that you don't have any genetic marker for inbreeding, than OK. I wasn't present at those tests, and I'm not a geneticist, so I really have no comment concerning whether or not you have an evolutionary lineage. I will say this though, I'm a bit confused as to why anthropologists would be performing experiments with DNA and ancestry, instead of geneticists or biologists. None-the-less, my stance remains the same: I only have your word on these tests, and I am not qualified to interpret genetic-drift of biological evolution. So I have no comment on the results.
Healing religions? You are right on that one who would want to; let timed events (as located inserts of) take care of it. This is already done was planned for years ago; having to outsmart those thinking they were in charge. A question, who do you think is in charge of this planet, and to get back to my OP statement? (so long ago) any ideas regarding who is talking to God and if so why are they not telling?
I don't believe that any individual force (God or otherwise) is in charge of this planet. Earth is a coincidence; a random occurrence which has produced some interesting, beautiful, and horrific results. The forces we conceive of as existing beyond us (whether in another reality, or another state-of-being) are all on a level playing field. YHVH is no greater a deity than Marduk, Zeus, Odin, or Amun-Rē.
Again, as an Alekaite, we don't believe in a single, unified, holistic All-Father. Instead, we believe that, much like many human societies, the spiritual plane is run democratically (on a good day) and through trade/bartering every other day. Whatever is beside us spiritually, whether deities, intermediaries, "extraterrestrials," or something else, they're not that far removed from us. Since we're not living in a utopian system, what makes you think they are?
~ Wandering Scribe
Originally posted by Joecroft
reply to post by vethumanbeing
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
I am not going to say it, I promised myself.
Within your truth you have recognised something. Well done; this type of discussion is far from over and my objective?
Keeping promises, shows integrity. Yes, you must continue on, in your objective. You must remain “true to thyself”, as Shakespeare once stated.
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
If there was any question ever posited you would think any curious person (regarding itself and its relationship to a God entity) would want to explore this mystery, their own truths known or unknown, and would be crawling al over this thread: as those replying might have some useful ideas (as to the best place to go for dinner tonight).
lol
Yes, those replying to this thread, don’t seem to appear to know where their heading. I wonder why lol ?
Perhaps a more flamboyant thread title is in order, to help draw in the masses.
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
The lifting of rocks heavy- I know there are some 2 million insect species and cannot name them; mankind has named about a million.
From your above subtle response, it would seem that you too, also know the truth of the riddle. Well done!
- JC
Originally posted by Wandering Scribe
reply to post by vethumanbeing
I didn't meet the Mormons during my travels, no.
I did meet Cthulhu though.
~ Wandering Scribe
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
Any ideas as to a change in thread title?
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
The riddles if anyone could grok them (maybe stay a mystery) would have all of the answers. One of my favorites (Buddist), You are sitting at your kitchen window and observe a cow walk by. You see the nose, eyes the ears; the neck the back and yet saw no tail. Why?
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
Without shooting myself, I question the depth of intent of some of the ideas in this forum. So much of it seems really specious and shallow and or if a threadmaker gets a question unexpected is just not capable of engaging or continuing a dialoge (or just does not care?).
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
Is it just me or does it always have to be the typically sad response to a valid living intellect asking for some clarification or validation. I am very surprised at the hostility encountered or the general blow off. "Take care of your thread participants people" is the wise mantra of small animal/moving icon, and is Robust in its Truth.
Originally posted by Joecroft
reply to post by vethumanbeing
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
Any ideas as to a change in thread title?
You could go with “Riddle me this Batman?” lol nah just joking…
How about….”What is God??? And who among you, claims to be talking with him???”
That should raise a few eyebrows. With a title like that, they’ll feel honor bound, to protect their version of God. And that’s where you come in! might even drop by myself lol
In addiction, you will need an intriguing OP, to go with the title. Good luck.
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
The riddles if anyone could grok them (maybe stay a mystery) would have all of the answers. One of my favorites (Buddist), You are sitting at your kitchen window and observe a cow walk by. You see the nose, eyes the ears; the neck the back and yet saw no tail. Why?
The Hindus considered the cow to be a sacred animal. In Hinduism holding a cow’s tail during death, was believed to help guide them safely to the next life. There does however appear to be competition within some early Hindu traditions, which still ate meat, and Buddhists, who promoted the idea, that all animals are sacred. Perhaps this is reflected in your Buddhist proverb; other than that, I don’t know what the answer to the riddle is.
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
Without shooting myself, I question the depth of intent of some of the ideas in this forum. So much of it seems really specious and shallow and or if a threadmaker gets a question unexpected is just not capable of engaging or continuing a dialoge (or just does not care?).
Yes, such is the case here on ATS, but then again, such is the case in real life too. Gota take the rough with the smooth, as they say; at least here, they’re open to some kind of dialog, where as out here (real life) it’s not always so easy.
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
Is it just me or does it always have to be the typically sad response to a valid living intellect asking for some clarification or validation. I am very surprised at the hostility encountered or the general blow off. "Take care of your thread participants people" is the wise mantra of small animal/moving icon, and is Robust in its Truth.
No, it’s not just you, it happens across the entire board IMO. I think in many cases, that people are often afraid, or threatened by things they just don’t understand. The same applies with someone trying to bring in a new truth, or maybe just a completely new perspective; there will always be friction to it, at first.
Although looking at some of the replies to this thread, it seems to me, that some (but not all), aren’t prepared to try and discover your perspective further, or try to seek out the truth, that you may hold. Maybe they find the idea of someone holding some sublime unknown truth, as slightly intimidating. Others, of course, have shown a higher level of maturity, in their responses.
- JC