The AGE OLD question? WHERE IS and who is ACTUALLY talking to God, aka Source Entity or Origin

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posted on Feb, 2 2013 @ 01:00 AM
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FRT refers to Faith Religion and theocrappy, thoseoff of we; in trouble here, Theo is crass? Let me think here, I am certain it is very important to the concept of the forum. THEOLOGY. Alright, Origin and Jesus were not living in sin but ARE living somewhat democratically as an unmarried couple but as significant others. Does that make a difference to you? In total tolerance of.

Let me look this over this OOB and will be back soon with absolutely NO insight. Out sight more the probable.

The Dark entity you encountered was your fate; no wonder you feared it. You were having a near death experience of your own contrivance; as in you for whatever reason no longer wanted or had the will to go on. You of your own volition left your body to experience a release of that situation in your life; as in not knowing if you wanted to go on being a human or not. There was a critical choice made, you came back to your physical body to continue and very couragiously persue your course. Spiritually trying to understand your being and your purpose. This is no small thing, you had the opportunity to cash in, and all would be fine, probably another spirit would have "walked in" and taken your place.

You for one reason or another gave yourself another chance-that being apparently taking another good look at yourself and your spiritual path. The purpose for the being out of body speculating your own FATE. Let me tell you something. At 33 I looked at myself in the mirror and behind those eyes looking into I said "WHAT AND WHO IS THIS LOOKING BACK AT ME" I actually understood at a very deep level what I was looking at an unfathonable being NOT ME but me all the same knowable; hopefully? I was frightenned by what I saw because I had no comprehension YET: God Could Be Us In Disquise.

Your path is not one of contrivance-it has meaning. Although you chide me about my thoughts as to whom are whoms past lives, I do know this-we met and none of it is an accident (Peanut Gallery SILENCE).
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posted on Feb, 2 2013 @ 10:52 AM
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Meditate. Simplest form, lie down, (this depends on your health many have to truly relax by lying down). Go within, be silent and still. I usually first pray, basically speak, to God as in the Highest Love and Goodness in Existence, in Mother/Father concept, Mom/Dad, Love, as in my Greater Soul/HS that I've met, and pour out all shortcomings, problems, worries for family, for self, for the world and pray for everyone in need that I know and all people everywhere in the universe that need to be free from slavery and empowered, have the Light/Consciousness within grow bigger so they can solve all problems, easily, for the Spirit of Peace and Love to be with each and every one of them.

Within! You pray within yourself. ask questions and wake with answers. Ask to feel Spirit of Love, to feel the connection.

In infinity there is no point of local that can be measured, ie. wherever you place the dot in infintie fractals, the same immeasurable endless infinity surrounds it in all directions. There truly is no bigger/smaller, up/down, higher/lower, or Time. Except as concepts or perceptions. In our case, as programs in the body suit brain, which is like a computer with software.

In fact DNA is like a computer program language.

This being the case, in a sense, you have never left home. All that was, is and will be is NOW and you are in a locale already, and this is occurring within ourselves, for our souls are like the DVD player for this agreed apon creational school, which is thoughtscape. And you are participating in learning, being challenged in a story of dark and light, to overcome yourself and Love Love Love.

Christ was truly one who connected within to his Water, Greater Soul and Family. He also said, What I have done you can do and greater. They fit him into their control religons, and so you have to go to the heart of the message.

There is 2 ways of waking up, going within or without. For example. Its like akin to the Christ energies or Anti Christ energies. If you were in the occult or mystery schools you would turn the light into its opposite, the white magic, into the matrix control grid and the dark into the positive. And they think they're right.

But instead, all the weird beliefs both in religion and in gnostic occult forms of the religions, can be dropped. Who cares if the sun is a part of the matrix or generates it? Its lovely. Continual rain isn't healthy.

In the test there is the Power of Love and the Love of Power, that is all that counts. So when I say Christ energies, as a human programmed with whatever since birth, I associate Christ energies, with the example he gave of Love and the Power of Love energies and the opposite, since things lurk in shadows that aren't nice, with the anti Christ. And its the intent of my heart that makes the belief irrelevent, but the Love real and the intent real.

Those who are Love, walking with that, when they reach inside Flow their Infinity and Infnite Family and Divine Spirit of God, the Spirit of Love and Peace between all higher beings.

Those who are anti christ have opened their inner eye on a bad/insane frequency and reached realms of bad guys only, cut off from their infinity. They are shadow legion and beehive, and its far more limited.

So, connect within. Be water, my friend!


Be Water My Friend! - Bruce Lee Remix

Before talking to God/Goodness, your soul, I'd listen to this so you get the idea, of what zenmind means. Connect to your infinite self, your body disappears, and you reach into the ocean, field, of you, that is bigger than the universe, but remember there is no real measurement, you are an infinite part of infinity, and all the Loving Souls are connected with the Divine Infinite Spirit.

And keep it up!



posted on Feb, 2 2013 @ 03:12 PM
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Firstly I would like to point out, that my OBE experience, was the only one I’ve ever had. Although, when I was researching them, I did consider using some of the techniques I found online, to induce one; but I’ve been putting that off, for a long time now.




Originally posted by verthumanbeing
FRT refers to Faith Religion and theocrappy, thoseoff of we; in trouble here, Theo is crass? Let me think here, I am certain it is very important to the concept of the forum. THEOLOGY. Alright, Origin and Jesus were not living in sin but ARE living somewhat democratically as an unmarried couple but as significant others. Does that make a difference to you? In total tolerance of.



So Origin (Origin of what??) and Jesus are living together, they just aren’t completely connected to each other?…I hope that’s close lol




Originally posted by verthumanbeing
Let me look this over this OOB and will be back soon with absolutely NO insight. Out sight more the probable.


On the contrary, your insight was excellent.



Originally posted by verthumanbeing
The Dark entity you encountered was your fate; no wonder you feared it. You were having a near death experience of your own contrivance; as in you for whatever reason no longer wanted or had the will to go on. You of your own volition left your body to experience a release of that situation in your life; as in not knowing if you wanted to go on being a human or not.


When I first started to research the phenomenon, I began to learn that most of the OBE’s that people experienced, without using techniques to achieve them, would tend to happen, during moments of stress in their lives. The theory goes, that the spirit or soul, needs to take rest from the body during heightened levels of stress; which at that period in my life was most definitely the case.

At the time of my experience, my family had undergone a really stressful period, and I don’t wish to go into details, but it was something pretty bad, which affected my entire family. My family wasn’t to blame either, the problem came from an outside source.




Originally posted by verthumanbeing
There was a critical choice made, you came back to your physical body to continue and very couragiously persue your course. Spiritually trying to understand your being and your purpose. This is no small thing, you had the opportunity to cash in, and all would be fine, probably another spirit would have "walked in" and taken your place.


I really appreciate your kind words, but from the accounts and information, I’ve read, when one feels fear, during an OBE, this has a tendency to bring their spirit body, back into their physical body. So I’m not really sure if I made the brave choice or not.




Originally posted by verthumanbeing
You for one reason or another gave yourself another chance-that being apparently taking another good look at yourself and your spiritual path. The purpose for the being out of body speculating your own FATE.


Since researching the topic about 3 an half years ago now…I found that these shadow creatures, appear to feed of peoples fear. They seem to pray on people, when they’re at their lowest points, in their lives.

Here are few sites, which deal with the subject of shadow beings.

shadowpeople

theshadowpeople



Originally posted by verthumanbeing
Let me tell you something. At 33 I looked at myself in the mirror and behind those eyes looking into I said "WHAT AND WHO IS THIS LOOKING BACK AT ME" I actually understood at a very deep level what I was looking at an unfathonable being NOT ME but me all the same knowable; hopefully? I was frightenned by what I saw because I had no comprehension YET: God Could Be Us In Disquise.



Well, what your describing, is actually Biblical…In John 10:34, where Jesus is being questioned by the Pharisees, He quotes to them, the verse Psalm 82



Psalm 82:5-7
“The ‘gods’ know nothing, they understand nothing.
They walk about in darkness;
all the foundations of the earth are shaken.
“I said, ‘You are “gods”;
you are all sons of the Most High.’
But you will die like mere mortals;
you will fall like every other ruler.”


IMO, this is in turn connected to the verse 3 in the “Gospel of Thomas”, where Jesus states that we are “Sons of the living Father.”



When you know yourselves, then you will be known, and you will understand that you are children of the living Father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you live in poverty, and you are the poverty."


- JC



posted on Feb, 2 2013 @ 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by verthumanbeing
Your path is not one of contrivance-it has meaning. Although you chide me about my thoughts as to whom are whoms past lives, I do know this-we met and none of it is an accident (Peanut Gallery SILENCE).


I’m fully open to the possibility; I just couldn’t see how it was going tie into the topic on my Enoch thread. Where as here, the topic is God; so I guess anything goes.

There are however, one or two other posters, here on ATS who have past life memories. Unfortunately for me, I have no such memories, but I recently discovered, that there are certain spiritual practices, revolving around meditation and going within yourself, which can help in the discovery of ones former selves.

- JC



posted on Feb, 2 2013 @ 06:06 PM
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Unity_99; many things to actuate here. Thankyou for your thoughtful post, at once reasuring and comforting and believe me is at times a very necessary pause, wait and "take a breath here" moment.
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posted on Feb, 2 2013 @ 06:27 PM
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Originally posted by Joecroft
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Firstly I would like to point out, that my OBE experience, was the only one I’ve ever had. Although, when I was researching them, I did consider using some of the techniques I found online, to induce one; but I’ve been putting that off, for a long time now.
So Origin (Origin of what??) and Jesus are living together, they just aren’t completely connected to each other?…I hope that’s close lol



Originally posted by verthumanbeing
You for one reason or another gave yourself another chance-that being apparently taking another good look at yourself and your spiritual path. The purpose for the being out of body speculating your own FATE.


Since researching the topic about 3 an half years ago now…I found that these shadow creatures, appear to feed of peoples fear. They seem to pray on people, when they’re at their lowest points, in their lives.



Originally posted by verthumanbeing
Let me tell you something. At 33 I looked at myself in the mirror and behind those eyes looking into I said "WHAT AND WHO IS THIS LOOKING BACK AT ME" I actually understood at a very deep level what I was looking at an unfathonable being NOT ME but me all the same knowable; hopefully? I was frightenned by what I saw because I had no comprehension YET: God Could Be Us In Disquise.



Well, what your describing, is actually Biblical…In John 10:34, where Jesus is being questioned by the Pharisees, He quotes to them, the verse Psalm 82



Psalm 82:5-7
“The ‘gods’ know nothing, they understand nothing.
They walk about in darkness;
all the foundations of the earth are shaken.
“I said, ‘You are “gods”;
you are all sons of the Most High.’
But you will die like mere mortals;
you will fall like every other ruler.”


IMO, this is in turn connected to the verse 3 in the “Gospel of Thomas”, where Jesus states that we are “Sons of the living Father.”



When you know yourselves, then you will be known, and you will understand that you are children of the living Father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you live in poverty, and you are the poverty."


- JC


Yup. Although I run from scripture as from a house afire, its interesting to hear I am not alone in these contemplations as ancient as they are. Is there a bell out there ringing some truth?

The Shadow people live in the 4D and are not in the upper realms. They do feed upon current 3D fear energy and there are a variety of reasons why they do so and usually to harm. Be careful with that, its not worth it.

Origin is of What period; the whole shebang; created Source Entity specialized (out of picture). It tolerates the battered messed up past life human Jesus whom is almost healed and to do that they have to live together.

There are other forums that address the next answer potencials. Paranormal psyhic etc. I've looked at them and very frankly, they are not grounded in any firm belief or theology so are for Me a no means provided to jump off a cliff with a different idea totally and make it remotely make sense. As you well know, I have to volley back the questions "you are not making sense". The meaning of the text is in the subtext (allusions to without having to say the obvious) and for me gratifying if anyone gets it. Why should anything so intangible to describe be easy.
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posted on Feb, 2 2013 @ 06:40 PM
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Originally posted by Joecroft
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Originally posted by verthumanbeing
Your path is not one of contrivance-it has meaning. Although you chide me about my thoughts as to whom are whoms past lives, I do know this-we met and none of it is an accident (Peanut Gallery SILENCE).


I’m fully open to the possibility; I just couldn’t see how it was going tie into the topic on my Enoch thread. Where as here, the topic is God; so I guess anything goes.

There are however, one or two other posters, here on ATS who have past life memories. Unfortunately for me, I have no such memories, but I recently discovered, that there are certain spiritual practices, revolving around meditation and going within yourself, which can help in the discovery of ones former selves.

- JC


The only way you can discover any of your past lives is to pay a regressionist specialist in somnombulatic hypnotism, or just ask your higher self. Many would say meditation is one route to having that kind of conversation.

The problem with Topic, I'm getting away with very diverse thoughts on this thread and I have no idea why--So
SHHHH. Lets just continue with what is occuring. BTW? Do you know anyone that has spoken to Origin or Source Entity? and where are they?



posted on Feb, 2 2013 @ 08:39 PM
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Originally posted by verthumanbeing
Yup. Although I run from scripture as from a house afire, its interesting to hear I am not alone in these contemplations as ancient as they are. Is there a bell out there ringing some truth?


Before we go any further here, I’m kinda curious. You seem to have a lot knowledge, just going off a few of your other posts. Anyway, I’m wondering if your asking your OP question from the perspective of someone who is searching for the answer himself, or from the perspective of someone who already has the answer, or at least some of the answers anyway?




Originally posted by verthumanbeing
The Shadow people live in the 4D and are not in the upper realms. They do feed upon current 3D fear energy and there are a variety of reasons why they do so and usually to harm. Be careful with that, its not worth it.


Pleased understand, my OBE and encounter, happened a long time ago. I’ve never seen, heard, or felt anything like that since.



Originally posted by verthumanbeing
Origin is of What period; the whole shebang; created Source Entity specialized (out of picture). It tolerates the battered messed up past life human Jesus whom is almost healed and to do that they have to live together.


So Origin and Jesus have to live together as an unmarried couple?; why don’t they just settle the deal and get married lol



Originally posted by verthumanbeing
BTW? Do you know anyone that has spoken to Origin or Source Entity? and where are they?


Does, Source Entity, i.e. God the Father speaking to me, count???

- JC
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posted on Feb, 3 2013 @ 04:49 PM
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Originally posted by Joecroft
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Originally posted by verthumanbeing
Yup. Although I run from scripture as from a house afire, its interesting to hear I am not alone in these contemplations as ancient as they are. Is there a bell out there ringing some truth?


Before we go any further here, I’m kinda curious. You seem to have a lot knowledge, just going off a few of your other posts. Anyway, I’m wondering if your asking your OP question from the perspective of someone who is searching for the answer himself, or from the perspective of someone who already has the answer, or at least some of the answers anyway?




Originally posted by verthumanbeing
Origin is of What period; the whole shebang; created Source Entity specialized (out of picture). It tolerates the battered messed up past life human Jesus whom is almost healed and to do that they have to live together.


So Origin and Jesus have to live together as an unmarried couple?; why don’t they just settle the deal and get married lol

Does, Source Entity, i.e. God the Father speaking to me, count???

- JC


I have the answers; not using a perspective of wanting or needing a validation. The OP was a general query or 'feeler' testing the depth and temperature of the water. Unbeknownist to you at a time (in another thread) stated it. "Start a thread, and they will come."

Jesus in this incarnation turned out this way: Catholic born, his father powerful enough to have a private audience with Pope John the II on one of his visits to the US. Jesus is an Atheist, still a carpenter and has killed many people being an ex-marine forward sniper. Deals weapons as a side hobby, and had to be weaned off of certain sexual tendendies toward Sado-Masochism. A very damaged Soul that was bewildered (his father foresaking him). Within a reincarnation, the past life being stamped on the spirit, travels happily along as well.

You think that is anything, Xerxes (still thinking he can mount another war against Sparta) has enough armament to outfit an entire Company. Not only that he is married to 'Fortitude" a first time human whom's essense is the definition in Websters. Believe it or not words when needed to manifest will become life partners. Fortitude is not that old but to look at her she resembles a 110 woman very burdened.

Source Entity is out of picture, so does not count as it was your creator. It never cared in the first place, THIS its creation was an intellectual game selfishly played with itself. I am sorry. 5 cents please.

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posted on Feb, 4 2013 @ 04:39 PM
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Originally posted by vethumanbeing
...The problem with Topic, I'm getting away with very diverse thoughts on this thread and I have no idea why--So
SHHHH. Lets just continue with what is occuring. BTW? Do you know anyone that has spoken to Origin or Source Entity? and where are they?

As stated on Joecroft's "Enoch thread", I've read through this thread and found many interesting contributions and debates... Quite a bit of the conversation has been rather intellectual &/or academic, while other contributions have been more metaphysically inclined...but, in hope of being included in some of what you're discussing, I am joining - ANYWAY.

To the opening question - I have known many (should be capitalized, bolded, italicized and underlined) who said they talked with God/(Source), daily...and held no particular qualms about telling you/me what God was saying. This was the particular branch of Christianity in which I was reared...
I don't know that a week goes by in these circles without some new directive, prophecy or perspective (on accepted tenets, doctrines, scriptures &/or truths) being broadcast as "Gospel truth".
Do I think they were actually talking with (&/or hearing from) God? Doesn't matter. They believe/d they are/were.

As to - "He/It has a lot of 'splainin' to do", I tend to agree... And, again - that is if He/She/It...cares.
Maybe this was just a prototype for another creation... Maybe this world/creation is the result of the death of a seed (He/She/It/Creator/Source...?) sown... (Into what? Good question... Maybe into - Faith, or Intention, or some other substance I haven't considered.)
As you posited - I have also questioned -
"Did He/She/It forget about us?"
Why does EVERYbody have a different take? Can't get two Christians, two Buddhists, two Muslims, two Atheists, two AnyThings...to agree on some of the most fundamental tenets of their various paradigms.
How can this be...if there was some common Source...that Required/Expected/Directed books, rules, laws, morals, etc...?

Will get back to this, shortly... Just need to "mark" it, so I don't have to go searching for it, everytime...
Thanks.



posted on Feb, 4 2013 @ 05:34 PM
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Originally posted by WanDash

To the opening question - I have known many (should be capitalized, bolded, italicized and underlined) who said they talked with God/(Source), daily...and held no particular qualms about telling you/me what God was saying. This was the particular branch of Christianity in which I was reared...
I don't know that a week goes by in these circles without some new directive, prophecy or perspective (on accepted tenets, doctrines, scriptures &/or truths) being broadcast as "Gospel truth".
Do I think they were actually talking with (&/or hearing from) God? Doesn't matter. They believe/d they are/were.
.

The perfect gem here is if they believed so, they probably were. They also may have been speaking to their higher self, the Oversoul of their being, protecting itself from encountering past life experiences. The oversoul is the funeral director of such. Many going outside of or completely lacking the stucture of a commuity (church) are ridiculed for such a belief system and it seems persecutorial "crazy talk". No one has as yet to answer this thread with a resounding "I HAVE SPOKEN TO MY CREATOR" or perhaps just will not admit it. Concidering there are many religious scholars, academics that walk the FRT forum; and part of it is just not being able to justify their existance beyond having a Mother and Father and was a procreation.

wandash


As to - "He/It has a lot of 'splainin' to do", I tend to agree... And, again - that is if He/She/It...cares.
Maybe this was just a prototype for another creation... Maybe this world/creation is the result of the death of a seed (He/She/It/Creator/Source...?) sown... (Into what? Good question... Maybe into - Faith, or Intention, or some other substance I haven't considered.)
As you posited - I have also questioned -
"Did He/She/It forget about us?"
Why does EVERYbody have a different take? Can't get two Christians, two Buddhists, two Muslims, two Atheists, two AnyThings...to agree on some of the most fundamental tenets of their various paradigms.
How can this be...if there was some common Source...that Required/Expected/Directed books, rules, laws, morals, etc...?


You are RIGHT. This IS a Prototype for another creation. This one cannot be destroyed, NOT again. It is a template for a much better vision/version. Its here, just has'nt manefested. Many thought that would happen Dec 21, 2012 because it seemed the likely time with the planet bodies alignment to the black hole center gallaxy. If it happenned in that way, all would have been destroyed; so it was thwarted, the human race does not have to be destroyed NOT AGAIN to reinvent itself (civilizations) in even a more corrupt format. Its all the same, as in does not work, secularized religion has'nt helped either; always in conflict with the State whatever Era.

It is'nt as if we were forgotten, just allowed to do our thing without any intervention despite the tragic concequences of war, famine, pestulance, drought. Neglectful? yes for purpose? yes. Tipping points needed to accelerate the raising of our and Earths frequency; no thing is reborn without a destruction process.

Everyone has a different take because everyone is an individual spirit form. This is one of reasons organized religon came into being-to get some on the same page with one clarity of vision; whether monotheism etc. There was no direct hardwiring to God Source as there is in the upper dimensions. This was an experiment, its failures and successes equally measured. There IS a common; you have to meet My Lawyer Daniel Webster.

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posted on Feb, 4 2013 @ 05:41 PM
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Originally posted by vethumanbeing
...Origin is of What period; the whole shebang; created Source Entity specialized (out of picture). It tolerates the battered messed up past life human Jesus whom is almost healed and to do that they have to live together.

...I have the answers; not using a perspective of wanting or needing a validation. The OP was a general query or 'feeler' testing the depth and temperature of the water...

...Jesus in this incarnation turned out this way: Catholic born, his father powerful enough to have a private audience with Pope John the II on one of his visits to the US. Jesus is an Atheist, still a carpenter and has killed many people being an ex-marine forward sniper. Deals weapons as a side hobby, and had to be weaned off of certain sexual tendendies toward Sado-Masochism. A very damaged Soul that was bewildered (his father foresaking him). Within a reincarnation, the past life being stamped on the spirit, travels happily along as well.

You think that is anything, Xerxes (still thinking he can mount another war against Sparta) has enough armament to outfit an entire Company. Not only that he is married to 'Fortitude" a first time human whom's essense is the definition in Websters. Believe it or not words when needed to manifest will become life partners. Fortitude is not that old but to look at her she resembles a 110 woman very burdened.

Source Entity is out of picture, so does not count as it was your creator. It never cared in the first place, THIS its creation was an intellectual game selfishly played with itself. I am sorry. 5 cents please.
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Know this was in response to Joecroft's inquiry...but, since it relates to something I have asked, hope this isn't an intrusion.
A little corn-fused... First time being human... Suggesting that first time around 'Jesus' was not human (but rather - God/god...)? Or - am I jumbling contexts?
Glad 'Joe' got stuck with that 5 cents!



posted on Feb, 4 2013 @ 06:32 PM
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Originally posted by WanDash
Know this was in response to Joecroft's inquiry...but, since it relates to something I have asked, hope this isn't an intrusion.
A little corn-fused... First time being human... Suggesting that first time around 'Jesus' was not human (but rather - God/god...)? Or - am I jumbling contexts?


No intrusion as this is a forum for debate and exchange and everyone understands that, even if Bugs Bunny or Pope Benedict the 16th wants to have its say.

There is some very hottly disputed discussion regarding Jesus and who he actually was. First time human fully 9D yes. Source Entity the creator of this universe says (Its creator Origin) was Jesus. I can tell you right now this is not so. Reason, to pass the buck and blame and not have to admit it created another 2000 years of patriarchal oppression, one eyedness as to repercussions of that: even more human clamity/confusion. Is Jesus God, Is God Jesus? Who was Jesus. Just another yank to the humans chain. 25 cents please.
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posted on Feb, 4 2013 @ 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by WanDash
Know this was in response to Joecroft's inquiry...but, since it relates to something I have asked, hope this isn't an intrusion.
A little corn-fused... First time being human... Suggesting that first time around 'Jesus' was not human (but rather - God/god...)? Or - am I jumbling contexts?
Glad 'Joe' got stuck with that 5 cents!


LOL

Your just here, for the comedy routine lol between me and vethumanbeing right?

I’ve only got 4 n half cents right now lol, so not sure when I’m going to be able to reply to HIS! last comment.

But I’ll try to think of something…

- JC



posted on Feb, 4 2013 @ 06:38 PM
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Originally posted by Joecroft
...LOL

Your just here, for the comedy routine lol between me and vethumanbeing right?

I’ve only got 4 n half cents right now lol, so not sure when I’m going to be able to reply to HIS! last comment.
...

Unmasked again!
Yeah - well - I'm thinking some of the "value" can be derived from thoughtful response....
At least - I'm hoping.



posted on Feb, 4 2013 @ 06:47 PM
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Originally posted by Joecroft
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Originally posted by WanDash
Know this was in response to Joecroft's inquiry...but, since it relates to something I have asked, hope this isn't an intrusion.
A little corn-fused... First time being human... Suggesting that first time around 'Jesus' was not human (but rather - God/god...)? Or - am I jumbling contexts?
Glad 'Joe' got stuck with that 5 cents!


LOL

Your just here, for the comedy routine lol between me and vethumanbeing right?
I’ve only got 4 n half cents right now lol, so not sure when I’m going to be able to reply to HIS! last comment.
But I’ll try to think of something…

- JC


I told you before God is the Comedian, and its audience neglects to laugh. As for the half cent owed, Id take a stick of JuicyFruit gum.



posted on Feb, 4 2013 @ 07:15 PM
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Originally posted by verthumanbeing
“Your path is not one of contrivance-it has meaning. Although you chide me about my thoughts as to whom are whoms past lives, I do know this-we met and none of it is an accident (Peanut Gallery SILENCE).”


Please excuse the chiding; was I a good friend, in this previous life meeting we had. And can you say who I was, or what place, time period etc ?

And if I maybe so bold as to enquire, how were you able to know this, just from my writings on ATS?




Originally posted by verthumanbeing
I have the answers; not using a perspective of wanting or needing a validation.


How have you been able to validate this truth?

And please understand, you already know from my previous posts, that I’m not coming at this from an atheistic perspective; I guess Christian Gnostic might a be a better label to put on myself, but even that, IMO just doesn’t quite cut it, in regards to my current beliefs.




Originally posted by verthumanbeing
Jesus in this incarnation turned out this way: Catholic born, his father powerful enough to have a private audience with Pope John the II on one of his visits to the US. Jesus is an Atheist, still a carpenter and has killed many people being an ex-marine forward sniper. Deals weapons as a side hobby, and had to be weaned off of certain sexual tendendies toward Sado-Masochism. A very damaged Soul that was bewildered (his father foresaking him). Within a reincarnation, the past life being stamped on the spirit, travels happily along as well.


Judging by this above, I’m guessing you subscribe to a form non-dualism, with only one source entity ever existing?

If I told you that you were close, but wrong, what would you say to that?




Originally posted by verthumanbeing
You think that is anything, Xerxes (still thinking he can mount another war against Sparta) has enough armament to outfit an entire Company. Not only that he is married to 'Fortitude" a first time human whom's essense is the definition in Websters. Believe it or not words when needed to manifest will become life partners. Fortitude is not that old but to look at her she resembles a 110 woman very burdened.


Always preferred Spartacus myself, at least no one denies his existence lol




Originally posted by verthumanbeing
Source Entity is out of picture, so does not count as it was your creator. It never cared in the first place, THIS its creation was an intellectual game selfishly played with itself. I am sorry. 5 cents please.


I was saying in my last post, that source entity, spoke with me. And was enquiring if that covered part of your OP, which I think it does…



- JC



posted on Feb, 4 2013 @ 07:37 PM
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Originally posted by vethumanbeing
...There is some very hottly disputed discussion regarding Jesus and who he actually was. First time human fully 9D yes. Source Entity the creator of this universe says (Its creator Origin) was Jesus. I can tell you right now this is not so. Reason, to pass the buck and blame and not have to admit it created another 2000 years of patriarchal oppression, one eyedness as to repercussions of that: even more human clamity/confusion. Is Jesus God, Is God Jesus? Who was Jesus. Just another yank to the humans chain. 25 cents please.

Am familiar with at least some of the hot-disputes...
Fully 9D - Is that 9th Dimension (or 9-Dimensional)?
Maybe I haven't said it to you, but this, for whatever reason, reminds me of some of what I was told about the teachings found within Urantia...(but - not really)
Well - as Joecroft has so amply stated on other occasions - "I think I'm lost".
Could be that I simply have to set aside all preconceptions (or Tales from the Crypt), and entertain what you're saying, to see if I can make sense of it.

Hmmm - I think I'm missing some links...
...(still working on the 25 cents) ------ (may take time)...



posted on Feb, 4 2013 @ 07:59 PM
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Originally posted by Joecroft

Please excuse the chiding; was I a good friend, in this previous life meeting we had. And can you say who I was, or what place, time period etc ?
And if I maybe so bold as to enquire, how were you able to know this, just from my writings on ATS?


As Herod the Great yes, corrupted by his Roman overseerers, and walking a fine line between trying to keep his constituancy calm, paying taxes and not calling attention to an inablily to contain this. The last thing he wanted was a potencial Jewish Messiah to land on his lap.



Originally posted by verthumanbeing
I have the answers; not using a perspective of wanting or needing a validation.



Joecroft
How have you been able to validate this truth?
And please understand, you already know from my previous posts, that I’m not coming at this from an atheistic perspective; I guess Christian Gnostic might a be a better label to put on myself, but even that, IMO just doesn’t quite cut it, in regards to my current beliefs.


Validate? by whom someone living in this time period also reincarnated? Let me see who have met lately just landed on my doorstep..Joseph of Armiathia. A Kansas native from a farming family;community near Salina. He is now a land buyer developer multimillionaire SCAMMER. What is funny about him is that he has always referred to himself in the third person as a Jew. Take that for what its worth, just quoting.

I never thought of you as an atheist. If you could lable yourself without words such as Christian Gnostic, what would they be, as in a brand new form of belief relelated to your personal truths. Maybe it would be a good excersise for everyone.



Originally posted by verthumanbeing
Jesus in this incarnation turned out this way: Catholic born, his father powerful enough to have a private audience with Pope John the II on one of his visits to the US. Jesus is an Atheist, still a carpenter and has killed many people being an ex-marine forward sniper. Deals weapons as a side hobby, and had to be weaned off of certain sexual tendendies toward Sado-Masochism. A very damaged Soul that was bewildered (his father foresaking him). Within a reincarnation, the past life being stamped on the spirit, travels happily along as well.



Joecroft
Judging by this above, I’m guessing you subscribe to a form non-dualism, with only one source entity ever existing? If I told you that you were close, but wrong, what would you say to that?


No, I actually think there are more cooks there in the kitchen, some have better soups than others is all. The fun is sorting them out from the higher ranking to the lesser.



Originally posted by verthumanbeing
You think that is anything, Xerxes (still thinking he can mount another war against Sparta) has enough armament to outfit an entire Company. Not only that he is married to 'Fortitude" a first time human whom's essense is the definition in Websters. Believe it or not words when needed to manifest will become life partners. Fortitude is not that old but to look at her she resembles a 110 woman very burdened.



Joecroft
Always preferred Spartacus myself, at least no one denies his existence


At least Kirk Douglas and Metro Goldwyn Meyer would'nt.


[I]Joecroft
I was saying in my last post, that source entity, spoke with me. And was enquiring if that covered part of your OP, which I think it does…
- JC


Any talk of God or to SE (you are right) would cover or be in the specs of this OP. I am glad--and always looking for an introduction or a good party.
edit on 4-2-2013 by vethumanbeing because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 4 2013 @ 08:09 PM
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Hey WanDash…

I noticed you said on my other thread, that you used to be a Christian, or that you were brought up a Christian…

I hope vethumanbeing doesn’t mind me posting this here, but I would like to offer you a small excerpt of my own spiritual journey, which you can find here. It’s fairly brief, and although I could have put more detail into, such as numerous synchronicities leading up too, and during it; it does get the basic story across. I’m not expecting you to believe it all, but I thought it might at least offer you some food for thought and will give you a better idea, of where I’m coming from.

Peace…

- JC





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