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posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 04:55 PM
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Where is the conspiritorial componant; by whom and for what reason?


I don't have a conspiratorial component. I'm not a conspiracy theorist.


Anthropoligists became involved because...


As I said before, go find a biologist on ATS if you want to discuss your claimed-inconsistencies with the rest of the human race. I have nothing to offer you concerning them. If you think you're an alternate species, or an extraterrestrial, by all means, go to Congress and declare yourself. We've been waiting long enough.


If I thought I recognized a Diety on the highway hitchhiking...


YHVH isn't worth $5. I'd demand someone pay me $5 to see YHVH. I'd pay $5 to see Amun-Rē though. A chance to see an invisible, omnipresent force of pure will, which manifests through the sun and all tangible life, and isn't a dick who forces nonbelievers to go to Hell? That's worth $5 to me.


I'd love to see you in a debate with Earth and tell her, you are in the opinion that she is just a random beautiful coinsidence. She'd tell you; You were but a mistake.


My parents knew exactly what they were doing when they set out to conceive me; they wanted a child. I was a success. As for the Earth, It is just a coincidence. If you don't think something good can come from a coincidence though, that's a problem with your perspective, not with my statement. Interesting you refer to the Earth as a She though. Geb, Enki, and Ymir would be rather upset to learn you think they're women.


The Utopian thing. Well, the reason what you call the spiritual plane (the higher dimensional beings of the 4-5-6) are living in such a democratic society is because they are telepathic, are directly hardwired to their creator and cannot lie to each other as easily as we do.


The democratic nature of the Afterlife is something I've gleaned through reading a variety of holy books from different cultures. None of them mention telepathic speaking, or the inability to lie. In fact, often times the figures in the Afterlife have deep, booming voices; and are quite capable of lies, tricks, and treachery. I'm not sure why you think the Afterlife is a science-fiction novel.


I'd like to meet the other two Alekiates you've formed an alliance with. As unrealistic as it sounds, I'm interested in their table of contents.


If they find this thread, and wish to comment, then they will. We don't have "leaders," and I don't command, or form alliances with them. They do what they want, as do all free individuals.


There are no such things as Mormons.


The Church of the Latter Day Saints would beg to disagree. Although I think you're right. They're all just NeoJews. That's all any Christian is: a New Age Jew. They're just afraid to admit that their entire religion was designed to answer a Jewish future-Messiah, and then hijacked by the Catholics in a bid for world domination.


Did not think you went so far south in your travels.


"The universe is shaped exactly like the Earth; if you go straight long enough, you'll end up where you were."


Bring back any relics...


Nah, I couldn't get any Olmec Heads into my carry-on luggage. How about ancient, mysterious Northern European and Mesoamerican idols? Do those work for you? I dug up a couple during my journey across time and space. Here you go:



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Have a good day!

~ Wandering Scribe

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posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 06:54 PM
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Very fitting you would include Nordic/Swedish iconography, I understand them to be Pagan?. Say; the small piece, could almost have sentience; a light bulb, cord and a lampshade would complete it ideawise as reclaimed refuse/reusables. I don't think some of our overseers would be upset to be compared to Gaia (female) because the Sun trumps as the husband doncha know?

The Normans, they were French; duking it out with the Saxons. The Normals (Mormans) engaged in conflict with themselves trying to believe a ridiculous senario, but faith based? Just like the Christian, Mary was impregnated by God immaculate birth, not any more of a stretch of imagination.. Judeaic Law as in the highjacking of faith based doctrines to further wealth, land aquisitions (conquered destroying the Maya civilization; much smarter as to understanding the All and their place within it) and as ironic as it is, be in conflict with the Old Testament? NOOOOO, not possible. Those Catholics, what a sense of humor; all on the same board of directors (but those meetings were tiresome and unproductive-unless someone unleashed a not to be spoken (fingerpointing accusation) WHO DROPPED THE BALL? Same tenents, why does the Torah only include the first 5 chapters of the Bible, and who negociated the inclusion of the others (I know of a Corporate law firm downtown Chicago that could have helped legalise wise). Old Testament? After the first 5 how did the others arrive in print form. New Testament? The books traded at a known coc aine drop.

I know someone that could have provided you a 'shrinkalator' to get an olmec head back.

Afterlife is'nt the Science Fiction Novel you think I think it is. I AM LIVING IT NOW; right here in 3D, and believe me I am not dreaming.

Declare myself to Congress; and what would I say, probably squinting "I only see One member sitting out there, and you are from an American Trust Territory? Oh, Guam, and American Samoa is in the bathroom?---any recommendations for lunch? I'm buying".

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posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 08:54 PM
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Originally posted by vethumanbeing
Any ideas as to a change in thread title?


You could go with “Riddle me this Batman?” lol nah just joking…

How about….”What is God??? And who among you, claims to be talking with him???”

That should raise a few eyebrows. With a title like that, they’ll feel honor bound, to protect their version of God. And that’s where you come in! might even drop by myself lol

In addiction, you will need an intriguing OP, to go with the title. Good luck.



Originally posted by vethumanbeing
The riddles if anyone could grok them (maybe stay a mystery) would have all of the answers. One of my favorites (Buddist), You are sitting at your kitchen window and observe a cow walk by. You see the nose, eyes the ears; the neck the back and yet saw no tail. Why?


The Hindus considered the cow to be a sacred animal. In Hinduism holding a cow’s tail during death, was believed to help guide them safely to the next life. There does however appear to be competition within some early Hindu traditions, which still ate meat, and Buddhists, who promoted the idea, that all animals are sacred. Perhaps this is reflected in your Buddhist proverb; other than that, I don’t know what the answer to the riddle is.




Originally posted by vethumanbeing
Without shooting myself, I question the depth of intent of some of the ideas in this forum. So much of it seems really specious and shallow and or if a threadmaker gets a question unexpected is just not capable of engaging or continuing a dialoge (or just does not care?).


Yes, such is the case here on ATS, but then again, such is the case in real life too. Gota take the rough with the smooth, as they say; at least here, they’re open to some kind of dialog, where as out here (real life) it’s not always so easy.



Originally posted by vethumanbeing
Is it just me or does it always have to be the typically sad response to a valid living intellect asking for some clarification or validation. I am very surprised at the hostility encountered or the general blow off. "Take care of your thread participants people" is the wise mantra of small animal/moving icon, and is Robust in its Truth.


No, it’s not just you, it happens across the entire board IMO. I think in many cases, that people are often afraid, or threatened by things they just don’t understand. The same applies with someone trying to bring in a new truth, or maybe just a completely new perspective; there will always be friction to it, at first.

Although looking at some of the replies to this thread, it seems to me, that some (but not all), aren’t prepared to try and discover your perspective further, or try to seek out the truth, that you may hold. Maybe they find the idea of someone holding some sublime unknown truth, as slightly intimidating. Others, of course, have shown a higher level of maturity, in their responses.


- JC


There is no right or wrong answer to the cow analogy roan. For me, I just blinked; perfect in the realization that I might be (justifiably) blinking myself through this conundrum called 'human life experience". Between you and I have you noticed there has been no ATS censorship of this thread? Outstanding. Hey, lets try to keep Truths to a minimum in case someone notices.

God, you thing of the unknowable, leaving your children to the wiles of CPS. You will be claimed an unfit parent and all of your 'children go into foster care'. I hope the foster parent has no skills in your unique version of cannibalism, AS YOU GOD LEFT US FORSAKEN and shame on you just as you abandoned Jesus......
Hopefull in the idea (that at least there are no available pots, pans and FIRE available), best of all no opposable thumbs to handle them.


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posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 09:33 PM
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The smaller one is actually some kind of musical instrument. It stands about 6 inches tall, and 2 inches at it's widest. The base has a slip for blowing into, and the four visible holes on the front are note-holes. I haven't had the guts to try blowing into since I dug it up though... I have no idea what health risks that may, or may not pose.

As for the solar/terrestrial, masculine/feminine bit...

Since I'm assuming you're using Classical Mythology (Greco-Roman) as your source, do you know of the Demeter/Persephone myth, or the Eleusinian Mysteries, and their secondary branch of Orphic Mysteries? In all three elements the solar figure (Apollo, Helios, Zeus occasionally) is shown to be entirely powerless when the will of the Earth-goddess (Demeter usually) is enacted. So no, the solar force does not always trump. Numerous times in fact, the terrestrial element (whether a grain-goddess, a vegetation-god, or the land itself) trumps the Sun-god and his reign as the King in mythology.

That's all beside the point though. What's your opinion on solar-veneration as a form of honoring the Most High? Egypt did it for about 3,000 years, cults in Greece and Rome did it, sometimes even Christianity is compared to a solar-cult. Do you think the sun qualifies as a manifestation of the Most High?

~ Wandering Scribe



posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 03:09 AM
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Originally posted by Wandering Scribe
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The smaller one is actually some kind of musical instrument. It stands about 6 inches tall, and 2 inches at it's widest. The base has a slip for blowing into, and the four visible holes on the front are note-holes. I haven't had the guts to try blowing into since I dug it up though... I have no idea what health risks that may, or may not pose.

As for the solar/terrestrial, masculine/feminine bit...

Since I'm assuming you're using Classical Mythology (Greco-Roman) as your source, do you know of the Demeter/Persephone myth, or the Eleusinian Mysteries, and their secondary branch of Orphic Mysteries? In all three elements the solar figure (Apollo, Helios, Zeus occasionally) is shown to be entirely powerless when the will of the Earth-goddess (Demeter usually) is enacted. So no, the solar force does not always trump. Numerous times in fact, the terrestrial element (whether a grain-goddess, a vegetation-god, or the land itself) trumps the Sun-god and his reign as the King in mythology.

That's all beside the point though. What's your opinion on solar-veneration as a form of honoring the Most High? Egypt did it for about 3,000 years, cults in Greece and Rome did it, sometimes even Christianity is compared to a solar-cult. Do you think the sun qualifies as a manifestation of the Most High?

~ Wandering Scribe


WARNING WARNING THIS IS A CODED RESPONSE-ROTE VALUE RATING 10 OF A POSSIBLE 10.
PAY NO PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO THE FOLLOWING DESCRIBED IN ENGLISH: LUNACY.

Hear/here is my problem, I feel as if I am at a conference table, the top made of glass 3/4 inch thickness that has been sanded lightly and looks greenish (no fragrence). You have all of these initiates around you that are faking you through or in a coniving way influencing your responses. One of them is of Germanic Desent, therein lies your Nazi abhorant componant (not you just the Mueller effect brilliant). Another, the William S. Burroughs "SHOOT TO MAIM at least confuse the masses with sound and do not kill the Wife Accidentally " Gunderson Clarkian reference (obscure Collie Dog was witness to). You must have help supernatural and/or you really are Solomon as I've suspected all along.

I am born as an event in the constellation of Leo. I am a RA fan, the Sun Rules my accidental?NOPE/INTENT of blasting forth my being upon the unsuspecting faithless (hopefully future minions). I suppose I will always bow in respect to the solar, whom else is there tangible? My given birth name means 'harvester, illuminator' The Most High is RA; who can dispute it I ask?

Its Wife Is Earth (the one most neglected-as in not acknoweledged)TO Anyone listenning She Tolerates the Human and is just about to rid you of its surface, like a dog sheds/shakes water from its fur. Christianity a Solar Cult? Only if money can be made for the warped secularized Babtists, Lutherans, Mormons, Episcapal,Methodists,Christian Scientists,Jehovah Witness,Seventh Day Adventists,Calvanists, Catholics.

Using wind machines? solar panels? There you go Earth/wind Sun/fire/heat--Was that not close to a band existing in the 60's? Earth Wind and Fire? Is Earth an African American?

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posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 03:16 PM
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The least of us are senseless, while the rest of us can only sense our loss.

~ Wandering Scribe



posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 03:38 PM
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The least of us are senseless, while the rest of us can only sense our loss.

~ Wandering Scribe


No worries, I am standing with you in your corner of a self defined existance. Lets go to THE THING and pay to see the newest always relevant roadside attraction working its Magick. For your information: in the 60s was a Grey Extraterrestial, stolen from Roswell. In the 80s was Cochise, Sun God of the Apache, its pal Geronimo
accended to whom knows where (became a bead trader in the 5th dimension). Now it appears to be some cow rib bones haphazardly thrown into a wooden coffin; probably Yahwehs remains (if you did what I told you to do with them).



posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 08:33 PM
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Originally posted by vethumanbeing
There is no right or wrong answer to the cow analogy roan.


There’s always a right answer, it just takes time to find it IMO.




Originally posted by vethumanbeing
For me, I just blinked; perfect in the realization that I might be (justifiably) blinking myself through this conundrum called 'human life experience".


If you blink, you might miss it!




Originally posted by vethumanbeing
God, you thing of the unknowable, leaving your children to the wiles of CPS. You will be claimed an unfit parent and all of your 'children go into foster care'. I hope the foster parent has no skills in your unique version of cannibalism, AS YOU GOD LEFT US FORSAKEN and shame on you just as you abandoned Jesus......


I’m sorry, but you’ve totally lost me on this one…???

- JC



posted on Jan, 27 2013 @ 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by vethumanbeing
There is no right or wrong answer to the cow analogy roan.


There’s always a right answer, it just takes time to find it IMO.




Originally posted by vethumanbeing
For me, I just blinked; perfect in the realization that I might be (justifiably) blinking myself through this conundrum called 'human life experience".


If you blink, you might miss it!




Originally posted by vethumanbeing
God, you thing of the unknowable, leaving your children to the wiles of CPS. You will be claimed an unfit parent and all of your 'children go into foster care'. I hope the foster parent has no skills in your unique version of cannibalism, AS YOU GOD LEFT US FORSAKEN and shame on you just as you abandoned Jesus......


I’m sorry, but you’ve totally lost me on this one…???

- JC


God should be put to experience the full (force) extent of Human Law. Child Protective Services should have been called 911 by a caring socialist or by a sneaky nosey nieghbor living in the same Culdesac/gated community or any cruel public housing area/segregating the suppressed oppressed human beings; as I believe God to be an UNFIT PARENT caretaker of its children, abandoning us; leaving us all 'latchkey children' no clue no guidence and that other thing: The final obcenity. We have to prove its existance to the uniformed law enforcers.

God Itself is probably squatting near the Brooklyn Bridge living in complete luxury inside of a Whirlpool double door cardboard refrigerator box.

John Lennon said something like this : ''Life is what we experience when be are busy doing something else". Blinking ones way through it applies for me (or at least is a good excuse; explaination for human condition). Nice comments Joe.
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posted on Jan, 28 2013 @ 12:33 AM
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Originally posted by Wandering Scribe
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The least of us are senseless, while the rest of us can only sense our loss.

~ Wandering Scribe


DO NOT LEAVE ME OUT TO HANG AND DRY. You of all in beingness are not senseless, You are not any of the rest of them; those left over might be able to sense loss.
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posted on Jan, 29 2013 @ 03:09 PM
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Can you please TRY to make sense, at least? I have no idea what the point of that post was.



posted on Jan, 29 2013 @ 04:03 PM
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Originally posted by AfterInfinity
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Can you please TRY to make sense, at least? I have no idea what the point of that post was.


Trying to get Wandering Scribe to explain its post. My way of asking the obvious; WHAT did you say? Wants to code talk? Alright. Give me cypher books page number.



posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 08:07 AM
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English, please. Speak English!



posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 11:00 PM
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Originally posted by Wandering Scribe
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The least of us are senseless, while the rest of us can only sense our loss.

~ Wandering Scribe


Least senseless, meaning most, and the only few left can sense or percieve a loss. Loss of? You are leaving a roan unaswered, worst of all your constabulatory as the greatest loss. How dare you neglect those that sincerely responded to you without response. A dead beat dad on the run from hundreds of dna tested (as yours/ideas) thoughtforms looking for the always on the move Carnival Circus-- next county over probably. I am pretty good at ring toss (gotta use carnie language sometimes, codewise). What the heck did you do with my ponyride, sell it to Merlin?
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posted on Jan, 30 2013 @ 11:58 PM
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Originally posted by vethumanbeing
Where are they? Source Entity and Origin? Why have we been left alone for so long? Why the awful lingering silence and where are their mouthpieces? Is there no one in existance that speaks to them for them (other than the papal which is not viable) and can let the humble simple dumbed down human know its fate?

Back to basics expand a simple concept into smithereen type purportions thus imploding itself into an oblivion that no human can describe? Why? It does not have the tools not even a hammer to bludgeon the obvious lies into a possible truth. We have no skills regarding correcting or understanding the implausible notions of "someone" telling us an untruth.
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posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 07:37 AM
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Please correct your quoting error in that post so the members of ATS observing this thread can differentiate between your response and the rest of it.
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posted on Jan, 31 2013 @ 06:21 PM
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Please correct your quoting error in that post so the members of ATS observing this thread can differentiate between your response and the rest of it.
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No quoting error THAT WAS ALL ME; although I have no idea when Sometimes Something happens beyond my control and appears strangely as it is. My oppologies to you and ATS (for my idiot editor).



posted on Feb, 1 2013 @ 10:59 PM
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Originally posted by verthumanbeing
Only one right now. You wide eyed as an innocent unabashedly caught a glimmer of LIFEFORCE CREATION in action and survived it. Venue Human. In thinking of such things; your moniker WanDash what does it mean? Same question goes for JoeCroft, AfterInfinity, Wandering Scribe, Akragon; Spiritofenoch,smithsumjub,GreatestIam.




Thought I would ask you, if you’d like me too address your question here, instead of on my Enoch thread; seeing as you aren’t going to start a thread of your own, around that topic?




Originally posted by verthumanbeing
I am fairly certain you mentioned somewhere in your thread as having an OOB experience and it was less than pleasant? This was in converse with WanDash.

Can you Will you expand on this experience? I have a need to know. Just the Facts Ma'm as always in the spirit of good will non-threatening and on topic to a possible non breakthrough regarding a change in your belief systems of Faith, Religion, Theology?


And I can also address this question here as well, if you wish.

Just thought I would ask first…

I will admit though, I feel kind of strange answering your questions, when you haven’t been so forthcoming yourself, in regards to my questions; But I did agree to answer them on my Enoch thread, so I will keep my word.


- JC



posted on Feb, 1 2013 @ 11:21 PM
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Originally posted by verthumanbeing
Only one right now. You wide eyed as an innocent unabashedly caught a glimmer of LIFEFORCE CREATION in action and survived it. Venue Human. In thinking of such things; your moniker WanDash what does it mean? Same question goes for JoeCroft, AfterInfinity, Wandering Scribe, Akragon; Spiritofenoch,smithsumjub,GreatestIam.




Thought I would ask you, if you’d like me too address your question here, instead of on my Enoch thread; seeing as you aren’t going to start a thread of your own, around that topic?




Originally posted by verthumanbeing
I am fairly certain you mentioned somewhere in your thread as having an OOB experience and it was less than pleasant? This was in converse with WanDash.

Can you Will you expand on this experience? I have a need to know. Just the Facts Ma'm as always in the spirit of good will non-threatening and on topic to a possible non breakthrough regarding a change in your belief systems of Faith, Religion, Theology?


And I can also address this question here as well, if you wish.

Just thought I would ask first…

I will admit though, I feel kind of strange answering your questions, when you haven’t been so forthcoming yourself, in regards to my questions; But I did agree to answer them on my Enoch thread, so I will keep my word.


- JC


What do you think JC-My thread is fine-to do this with--no one is going to blast it with a Clear Channel billboard on I10 OFF TOPIC. I will and can argue with the police that it was not my gun. I promise I will answer any questions of yours truthfully, But you must understand I am an abstract, non linear free associative thinker. I make no appologies to the way or direction my train of thought goes.

There seems to be some great misunderstanding about Enochs son Chuckles (Methuselah) and maybe we can in an interesting way take the scriptures known or not into a more imaginative realm. The dry quality of most of FRT is a yawn, but has so much potencial for "so what about about genesis, what do you really think".

This could be a lot of fun if we can jump start the thread as it is because the bones are there. Happy thoughts
Or we could do it this way "regarding Enoch, what if you found out your next door neighbors were Origin and Jesus living in sin and Enoch was their 9yr old major vandalizer/tagger of the area. You see I have a different perspective upon the Scripture, as in the blind fold shades come down regarding such. You on the otherhand as do Akragon, AfterInfinity can back up my wildly plausauble explainations of such (laymans terms).

I have had some requests as to the explaining of Moses--(and my interpretation is not pretty) and not what most would expect; some fallout as to oops never knew that.

SO what about that OOB that disturbed you, the fact you had one or its content relevant or not. I have them every night so not so much alone there in experience. What troubles you, the experience of them you can't quantify to a reality you have conciously?

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posted on Feb, 2 2013 @ 12:30 AM
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Originally posted by verthumanbeing
I will and can argue with the police that it was not my gun. I promise I will answer any questions of yours truthfully, But you must understand I am an abstract, free associative thinker. A make no appologies to the way or direction my train of thought goes.


Well, you can start by answering at least one those questions, that you responded with a resounding “ME TOO!” with, on my other thread ; Take your pick; and you can even use wordsmith mode, if your feel the need.




Originally posted by verthumanbeing
There seems to be some great misunderstanding about Enochs son Chuckles (Methuselah) and maybe we can in an interesting way take the scriptures known or not into a more imaginative realm.


Ok, lead the way…




Originally posted by verthumanbeing
The dry quality of most of FRT is a yawn, but has so much potencial for "so what about about genesis, what do you really think".


FRT? Fast Response time???




Originally posted by verthumanbeing
This could be a lot of fun if we can jump start the thread as it is because the bones are there. Happy thoughts
Or we could do it this way "regarding Enoch, what if you found out your next door neighbors were Origin and Jesus living in sin"


“were Origin and Jesus living in sin"

That sentence doesn’t make any sense…???




Originally posted by verthumanbeing
SO what about that OOB that disturbed you, the fact you had one or its content relevant or not. I have them every night so not so much alone there.


Every Night – seriously ?

Well, it wasn’t the OBE that disturbed me, it was the entity that I encountered during it, that freaked me out.

Perhaps a bit of backdrop to the story might help. My OBE happened when I was younger, quite a few years back, when I was roughly 21 years old.

Back then I didn’t even know what an OBE was. It just happened one night out of the blue. I know that there are apparently techniques to achieve OBE’s but I didn’t use any, as this just happened by chance.

I remember waking up and realizing that I was floating to the left of my bed, and I could see myself lying there. Now at first, I thought I had died, which made me feel sad. Then I looked over to the right of my bed, and to my horror I could see this black outline silhouette, of a figure standing there.

I immediately felt complete terror, and in my astral body or spirit form, I tried to get away from this thing. At some point I become so fearful, that I must have somehow gone back into my body. And when this happened, I remember feeling this sharp jolt and I literally rose up out of bed, and then ran out of the room.

This happened many years ago, and I guess most people would just say it was a dream. In fact, this is exactly what I did for many years; just treat it like a dream, but deep down I always knew that it wasn’t.

Strangely enough, my spiritual journey, which I mentioned on that other thread, was linked to my experience above. Roughly about the time of spiritual journey I kept thinking about my OBE experience.

And when I say thinking, I mean it just kept popping into my head, without me thinking about it. This continued for three straight days in a row. Eventually, I decide to do some research into the subject and I learned that these creatures are known as shadow people or shadow men.

I also discovered that similar experiences and accounts like this, have huge parallels with the UFO’s phenomenon; and funnily enough it was during this research that I found this website.

At that time I got sidetracked into looking into religion, which takes me slap bang into my spiritual journey account, which you’ve already read.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask…

- JC
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