Within ONE Year: Tens of Millions Will Eagerly And Willingly PAY To Relinquish Their Privacy

reply to post by Hefficide


I think this has already happened... not sure why it will take a year. If you pay for the net, or cell phone you are already there. There are people who do not have this that would pay for these services once they have the money for it.


I am pretty sure we had people preaching the same thing when drivers liscenses came out and basically owning property that is listed as well as regular old pots numbers being listed. Yes its true you could be unlisted but heck I can find anyones phone number, or ipaddress if I really wanted too. heck i could tap lines and packet sniff your nets and cellphones if i wanted to. .

In the future we will have new advances in technology and new whelps will keep showing up thinking they are the bees knees thinking that at this moment in time we are "losing" our privacy due to technology.. This has been happening for an extremely long time bucko welcome to the party

I am a parent and this sort of technology sends chills down my spine on so many levels.

When these systems send 'bio-metric' data back to base, what are we talking about. Are these video files or could video files be extracted from it.

I am thinking of bath time. In the lounge, one child is playing the game, one is off having a shower while Mum is drying the third child after a shower. That could quite easily mean that what would be classed as child porn being transmitted over the internet and surely at some time Microsoft (in this case) is receiving and keeping child porn.

With millions of users world wide they would end up with quite a collection. Extending these thoughts, teenagers making out in the bedroom, the mind boggles.

Perhaps an intriguing way to fight back. Accuse Microsoft of trafficking in child porn. Such an investigation could be started in any jurisdiction in any country. I imagine a few countries in Europe would love to take pot-shots at Microsoft.

I don't have one, but anyone with twitter or FB could really start a storm just with an accusing question.


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reply to post by pheonix358


Interesting angle. I recall a news broadcast around a year ago that showed some kind of govt fusion center looking for child porn. At one point during the broadcast they were interviewing someone at a workstation and he showed on his screen all of these hits for child porn on peoples computers around the state. I was amazed at how many "Hits" were on the display it was overwhelming but the fact is they have centers disbursed that apparently have already been tracking and monitoring this activity. However how much of that is legit you have to ask? Any chance this stuff is being hidden in torrent sites and such to use against people in the future? Just speculating but this is all a very slippery slope we have been on for awhile.

The problem is that people do not see it as any thing invasive anymore its just "what you do" now to be a part of the global community. This next generation being raised is going to be something to keep an eye on. Not to be too alarmist but I think of the Maoist youth who were used against the older intelligentsia.

The short attention spans of today make incremental establishment of this grid all the more dangerous.

Originally posted by NihilistSanta
reply to post by pheonix358

 

The problem is that people do not see it as any thing invasive anymore its just "what you do" now to be a part of the global community. This next generation being raised is going to be something to keep an eye on. Not to be too alarmist but I think of the Maoist youth who were used against the older intelligentsia.

The short attention spans of today make incremental establishment of this grid all the more dangerous.

You tell Mums and Dads that Microsoft is collecting videos of their naked kids and I can tell you now, their apathy will turn into a rage!

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Sorry, PC Master race here. Consoles are for subhuman mongrels worthy of servitude to their shadowy masters.

reply to post by Hefficide


Nicely thought and laid out. That kinect thing seems pretty exciting. People are going to love that, and who can blame them. I'll probably go in with the second generation game and hope to bypass the bugs. This could become a super duper game. But I see what you're saying. One's right to be an unobserved independent individual is rapidly fading, And the most vigilant against this encroachment are likely the most vulnerable to this seduction.

The fluctuation of power from the many to the few and back from the few to the many is spot on. And the reminder that the game is really a battle, is timely.

It's a new and wondrous age ripe with possibilities. Shame if we just let it collapse.

Now I don't what to go too far afield here Heff, but maybe the time of the old paradigm is ending. Coming is sustainable equilibrium with an eye on quality, and not that other thing. quantity and consumption. We have the know how, and as yet the wherewithal to accommodate most with a reasonably comfortable existence, even if this means reduced standards for some All that's needed is leadership.

It's not just about xboxes,

the whole concept of cloud computing is about transferring computer activities to subscription/pay-on-demand services & information monitoring.

There isn't much way to fight back once they've started any of this, although perhaps some suits may be filed, so small will never hear about them. I don't think the kiddie porn angle is viable, they would never release video files for others to watch in a public domain. I doubt any files get saved for long. There would be something you unwillingly agreed to in the terms and conditions. Nobody actually reads that stuff first, they're too impatient to get started.

It's too late, we already fell for the traps by indulging ourselves with all the technology.
I think the smartphones are a big key in them accessing our information.
If every single one of us tossed them into an ocean or river right now, they'd be screwed. Yet none of us would actually do that, no matter how much we say we would never let that happen.
We did let it happen. Everything else is falling into place.

With this tech it mentioned facial recognition and how to tell many people are in the room. They've already come up with gait recognition, to know how each person walks. Never mind it's just four people there , but who those four people are

It won't be long before they've invented something they could embed into all and any surfaces, by way of paint, vynils, fabrics, metals, for anything you might put your hand on as you pass by. People touch things all day long. Along with the GPS in our cell phones and the silly apps people have enabled all the sharing on, you can be tracked all day long. There are fabrics that have RFID in them now. I can see this spying, tracking tech being in everything we come into contact with, by just being there or logging a transaction. When you pay with your digital money credits you will all be using soon. You might not be worth watching now, but in the future you could very easily find yourself in a situation where you want to be on the run. They don't know if you will be a potential target either, so may as well start tracking everyone in advance now. Get them all tagged. Silly now to think people thought they would have to have a chip put into them. "I will never get chipped".

They would keep activity logs, last seen or tracked at which location, time and date.

Even if you went deep into the wilderness to hide, I bet they could rain down locators. Or have seeded deeply forested regions already. Their plan would surely contain the likelihood of what people would instinctively do to escape.

I didn't read the op information thoroughly, but did it suggest that in order to know the mapping of the room you had to provide that to it firstly?


Btw I rented the 1984 movie, the most boring movie I've ever seen. Needless to say I didn't finish it and would rather read the book.

Did not even know that MIcrosoft decided to go that far with there new Xbox.
I think realism is bad for 3d gaming, or it will get to the point where we will not know what is real anymore.
Remembered one book I was reading this summer, where people lived in those 3d cities, but one day it was shut and they woke up in real world, but started dying, course they did not know how to leave in real world.
I am sure that i will become more oldschool, and will just play arcade and old games instead of buying new xbox 720.
I would like to add, that you can't compare PC CPU with xbox cores, even if they said it had 100 cores, it still would not be faster then an older quad core CPU like i5 2500K.

I didn't take a look at all the files here but its a good list to look through, with documents at Spy files

Being a geezer, with kids around forty and oldest grand daughter being 22, I have truly learned to hate the magic box. The very thing you have described here that separates us from us. It's a sad technological world we live in where the reality of The Terminator looms in the near future. How have we allowed this to happen and how can we prevent it from going any farther?
What's really gut wrenching is that the only way to change our course is for a solar flare, EMP or some other civilization changing end of the world event that will disconnect us. Anyway, Merry Christmas to all with a hope for lights out!

The rebel forces are gathering around 2600, to meet at DEFCON. they will hack the XBOX
And William Gibson already characterized the cyberpunk underground. In his novels, the rebel forces are jacked in the net with a neural interface... we are not there yet. there is hope.
But when TPTB say, take the neural interface or indefinite military detention and there is no escape, we may be done.

We're already seeing this with that Kinect and even though it's a camera that tracks you and listens to you, when you point this out to people that have purchased it they still call you a conspiracy nut. It's amazing how brainwashed by propaganda people really are.

I wonder, 200 year from now, what will they say about America? Dumbest population in this history of humanity? I for one refuse to have any of these cameras in my home and I would go so far as to stop watching entertainment and using communication devices altogether if I had to. But even that won't be enough. First it's a choice then it's mandatory.

This is 1984.

It's scary, and the scariest thing is that this is the part that they're happy to tell us!

All sorts of TV manufacturers already have cameras built-in to the sets, and they brag like it's some great thing. When you dig even a little deeper, though, you see that some of these corporations have ties to government surveillance systems and so on.

In an article about the Kinect patents last month, there was a link to a good rundown of what the various manufacturers are doing and where this all leads.

Here's the link — Forget 1984, welcome to 2012’s Brave New World: surveillance dressed up as convenience.

When you read the communications coming from these companies you'll realise that we're not in the realm of conspiracy anymore... this is cold hard fact.

The only real thing the new unit is going to do is seek out any non-Windows OS phones in the room and send a strong, focused EMP to the phone, killing it. Then on your screen you will see an ad for the new windows phone.

snrRog

reply to post by AGWskeptic


I do exactly the same my friend.
Black electrical tape is on my laptop permanently.It's not paranoia when someone can hack into your computer and watch and listen it's pretty scary actually.Back in the day the same type of people would have called you paranoid for not smoking or eating french fries every day of the week.

In the 80's government spying agencies had the technology to spy on you through your T.V. via cable.That is an actual fact believe it or not,so imagine what they have today.

reply to post by Hefficide


This thing reads moods? I participated in a psyche experiment at the University of Oregon Medical Center in Portland in 1976 in which the researchers were creating a means to detect, among other things, lies by photographing subjects in interviews and then examining the tapes and analysing responses replayed at micro second speed to identify involuntary physiological responses that manifested the subject's true feelings and thoughts. This is the theme of the TV show, Lie to Me. My experience was before digitization and it is probable that, given the technological capability of present day gagetry, there are very likely programs in use to analyse a persons moods, intentions and feelings via video. In miliseconds.
I almost forgot, in 1984 Winston is always careful not to show emotion when being viewed by the Big Brother camera in his home because anything unusual could be interperted as suspicious and result in penalties. There's a revolutionary use for botox.

Mmm i agree with you in a sense, i've actually got one of those kinnects in my home. Funny thing is i rarely use it but when im not using it, call me paranoid but i keep the lens and mic covered heheh..lil over the top perhaps?

reply to post by chiefsmom


Reminds me of 'Lord of the Rings" when Gandalf throws the towel over the Seeing Stone thing.
"we dont know who else could be watching"

reply to post by Hefficide


If only we could play in a super realistic incredibly advanced and intelligent 3-D environment and walk around and interact with it with our hands and feet and...........oh wait..... that games been out for sometime now.