Originally posted by Unity_99
Well elsewhere online, regarding this, someone disproved Orion moved in relation to the surrounding stars but then found that Polaris was out, after very careful calculations that always work precisely up until very recently, that there was 6 arcminutes difference or basically 1/10th of a degree, which would mean everything including Orion would be out. He is going to double check this again.

So the most that could be out is 1/10th of a degree very recently, and that may just be equipment error.

If it was out 1/10th of a degree, wouldn't that be very insignificant unless something is just beginning to change. If its completed its change, that wouldn't do anything. If that is all 2012 is, well????

Originally posted by mattdel
Lets play a little devils advocate here. Those of you saying not possible are forgetting something very, very critical. We are still monkeys. We don't know everything. For example, a mechanoid race of alien intelligence might be pulling that cluster of stars away for a reason. Neither you or I can prove or disprove what I just said, and that is what makes it naive to boldly state that something like OP is not possible. Improbable based on our current understanding, but our current understanding changes every week, drastically lately.

Originally posted by wlasikiewicz
Maybe his trailer got moved by the wind, he fell over and banged his head and now Orion has moved

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
This man claims Orion is in the wrong place,

Originally posted by samkent
Not possible.

Originally posted by Nettlas
It would be possible if they wern´t stars and was something else. All I know is what scientists and astronomers says to me, I have never seen the "stars" in Orions belt up close in a scope for myself, and therefor I can not say if they are or aren´t stars.