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I have enough common sense to know a bloody nose and a few scratches to the back of the head are not life threatening.
For the love of God it didn't even require stitches!! He supposedly got his head bashed on the pavement numerous times and he received not one simple tiny stitch?
You are one wimpy troll and a bad one at that.
Originally posted by DZAG Wright
Why did George need the police to "call" him when they got there if he was returning to his truck?
Now see this is where I got you
Either he didn't follow TM or he did.
Either he turned around or he didn't. If he did, he wouldn't have been far from his truck.
No one is suggesting you sit there and let someone beat on you and not defend yourself. You should try to use equal force at first.
Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by hellbjorn012
when someone is on top beating your head against the ground.
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Dont assault people and you wont get killed.edit on 8/12/12 by Maslo because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by hellbjorn012
edit on 7-12-2012 by hellbjorn012 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by JayinAR
First of all, this thread is pointless and only furthers what many people here are already complaining about - trial by media. But with that said I'll offer my opinions anyways. Haha
OK, so I've found myself associating with people of all walks of life it seems at one point or another in my life. Including thug types, goons, hooligans, etc. The ONE THING that will resolve nearly all conflicts before they ever start is respect. ALWAYS treat people with respect and you will seldom have a problem with anyone.
Maybe its just where I am from, but if I had been suspicious or Trayvon that night I would have offered him a ride. I assure you he would have appreciated the gesture and the opportunity to get out of the rain. Zimmerman showed the young man no respect. There's the first mistake. Everything else is pretty much a tragic extension of that first mistake. Doesn't make Trayvon's actions acceptable. The entire thing just sad.
Another thing ... I've been in my share of sraps. Once again, maybe its where I'm from, but when I was coming up, you either gave or took a butt whoopin like a man. Meaning, if I break your nose and you're flat on your back, the damn fight is over. If I want to make sure, I may grab your broken nose and make you SAY the fight is over. No need to bash someone's head repeatedly. No wonder he got shot.
In the end, the entire thing is tragic, but get ready for it people, Zimmerman is gonna walk.
Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by DZAG Wright
See you are ABSOLUTELY wrong!
He did NOT disregard the dispatchers SUGGESTION. You can hear GZ begin to run, then the dispatchers ask him if he his pursuing and he says "yes" then the dispatcher says "we don't need you to do that" and you can hear in GZ's breathing that he slowed down. He continued talking and then started walking around the nieghborhood. You are incapable of understanding or using common sense, incapable of putting it together. GZ didn't "disobey" what in reality was just a suggestion. He was quite a bit away from Martin and had no chance of catching up to him. Martin could have run all the way home but he didn't, he stopped and waited. Unless he is a football player that had to stop and catch his breath after half a block.
You are biased, and will say anything to try to make your fantasy work. You're position of "only logical" is actually the most illogical scenario available. I try not to make personal attacks, but your opinion, if you really believes it means you are a flat out fool incapable of utilizing common sense.edit on 8-12-2012 by GogoVicMorrow because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
Originally posted by DZAG Wright
Why did George need the police to "call" him when they got there if he was returning to his truck?
Now see this is where I got you
Either he didn't follow TM or he did.
Either he turned around or he didn't. If he did, he wouldn't have been far from his truck.
More idiocy. Do you have a monopoly on it?
How about he decided to make a around in the general direction the kid ran (assuming he had kept running instead of hiding somewhere in wait and had planned on making a circle too see if he could see anything suspicious while he waited for the cops. HE didn't have to FOLLOW him (as in right behind him] but walk a path around back to his truck. It's not about following him at all. Following implies walking behind someone.
"either he turned around or he didn't" doesn't matter. What obligation did he have to turn around? What's wrong with making a loop back to his truck to scope out the area? Also he wasn't that far from his truck.
Oh and most importantly that map is not fact, it is an estimation of their paths. You can see the real stuff in a video walkthrough Zimmerman did with the police. Have you bothered to watch that?
The idea behind 10-20-Life is that when a person chooses to carry he bears a greater responsibility to not act recklessly or impulsively. And that when carrying a weapon the line between reckless and impulsive is exceedingly thin. And the difference between reckless and impulsive is the difference between manslaughter and murder 2.
Originally posted by Grimpachi
reply to post by DZAG Wright
Everything I have read or heard from former prosecutor or judges who have reviewed this case have said George should have never had charges filed against him some have even said the prosecutor that has charged him will be fired after this and George will have a strong case against the state for wrongful prosecution. After he wins in court he probably sue the state and get rich then if he wants he can become a paid speaker for the NRA.
Every presumption I have read from you is not supported by any evidence and based in fantasy. After he wins this and gets rich from it how are you going to feel.
BTW from what I understand 10 20 life does not apply to this case according to those former prosecutors and judges here in Florida.
Originally posted by DZAG Wright
Originally posted by Grimpachi
reply to post by DZAG Wright
Everything I have read or heard from former prosecutor or judges who have reviewed this case have said George should have never had charges filed against him some have even said the prosecutor that has charged him will be fired after this and George will have a strong case against the state for wrongful prosecution. After he wins in court he probably sue the state and get rich then if he wants he can become a paid speaker for the NRA.
Every presumption I have read from you is not supported by any evidence and based in fantasy. After he wins this and gets rich from it how are you going to feel.
BTW from what I understand 10 20 life does not apply to this case according to those former prosecutors and judges here in Florida.
That's where the stink comes in. We can't have a society where someone shoots someone and law enforcement automatically takes that persons version without an investigation! What would the scary people do when the people the "perceive" as thugs begin carrying guns legally? I have a gun and many view me as thug.
If he wins and even if he gets rich, which I highly doubt, his life will be hell.
There's a gun involved so 10 20 Life is indeed in full effect...
Originally posted by Grimpachi
Originally posted by DZAG Wright
Originally posted by Grimpachi
reply to post by DZAG Wright
Everything I have read or heard from former prosecutor or judges who have reviewed this case have said George should have never had charges filed against him some have even said the prosecutor that has charged him will be fired after this and George will have a strong case against the state for wrongful prosecution. After he wins in court he probably sue the state and get rich then if he wants he can become a paid speaker for the NRA.
Every presumption I have read from you is not supported by any evidence and based in fantasy. After he wins this and gets rich from it how are you going to feel.
BTW from what I understand 10 20 life does not apply to this case according to those former prosecutors and judges here in Florida.
That's where the stink comes in. We can't have a society where someone shoots someone and law enforcement automatically takes that persons version without an investigation! What would the scary people do when the people the "perceive" as thugs begin carrying guns legally? I have a gun and many view me as thug.
If he wins and even if he gets rich, which I highly doubt, his life will be hell.
There's a gun involved so 10 20 Life is indeed in full effect...
No one said there shouldn’t be an investigation just that he shouldn’t have been charged based on what they had discovered. He wasn’t charged until much later due to public outcry motivated by irresponsible reporting by the media which is probably why he has a strong case against the state for wrongful prosecution. As far as the 10 20 life it has been the former judges and prosecutors who have said that it will not apply in this case.