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Originally posted by luxordelphi
reply to post by samkent
Chemtrailing is not weather. It's a geoengineering event; deliberate. So hazy skies caused by geoengineering are not meteorologically predictable because they depend on the dispatch of chemtrailing craft.
Who is ignoring "talk"??
Yes I can - it is easy - I see no actual evidence that they aer "doing it"......there - what's more I can support my argument with evidence and also lack of evidence. you cannot support yours with anythign except hearsay.
Those are reasons to be suspicious of governments. But they are not evidence that the supposed chemtrail programme exists today.
pinting out the total lack of actual evidence is not riducule, and it IS eth way forard.
OTOH if you think that asking people to believe that a spraying programme from 50 years ago, from a small number of aircraft (and also from land and sea!) for a stated purpose, that looked nothing like "chemtrails" supposedly do today, proves that there are "chemtrails" - if you think THAT is the way forward, then I think you are the one subjecting everyone to ridicule for insulting their intelligence.
Originally posted by mee30
reply to post by waynos
Noooooo, you don't seem to understand... They actually talk about the use of CHEMICALS to change the weather! You actually SEE a plane in the BBC report that is used to SPRAY the chemicals...
So what exactly are we missing here?
Call it whatever the hell you like "cloud seeding" "chemtrailing" it is the same thing!
Tell me... How do YOU think they seed the clouds?
Also if governments around the world have run SECRET experiments on it's own citizens for DECADES, what is so strange about them doing it today in jet fuel or something like that?
There is MUCH more to it mate...
Originally posted by mee30
reply to post by waynos
Noooooo, you don't seem to understand... They actually talk about the use of CHEMICALS to change the weather! You actually SEE a plane in the BBC report that is used to SPRAY the chemicals...
So what exactly are we missing here?
Call it whatever the hell you like "cloud seeding" "chemtrailing" it is the same thing!
Also if governments around the world have run SECRET experiments on it's own citizens for DECADES, what is so strange about them doing it today in jet fuel or something like that?
that is it not from airliners, that it is not at high altitude, that it does not look like contrails, that he "trails" last only a few seconds whereas "chemtrails" supposedly last much longer, that it is not a secret.
Originally posted by mee30
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
Who is ignoring "talk"??
When I say "talk" I meant there are government papers on it that tell you they are doing it... The UK has released papers that "talk" about how they tested biological weapons on it's own citizens! You think that means nothing?
Yes I can - it is easy - I see no actual evidence that they aer "doing it"......there - what's more I can support my argument with evidence and also lack of evidence. you cannot support yours with anythign except hearsay.
Government papers are "hearsay"? Whatever man, I don't really care what you think... I can read and I can understand...
Those are reasons to be suspicious of governments. But they are not evidence that the supposed chemtrail programme exists today.
Good you admit that it is reason to be suspicious!
That is all I am VERY VERY suspicious... In relation to the UK a reporter asked some government bod whether these experiments are being done today and she said that it is government policy to not talk about "ONGOING RESEARCH"...
The canadian link I provided is from the GOV and it is an act that is still in use TODAY...
At the VERY least be suspicious, that is all...
What annoys me is when people poo poo the idea when they have admitted to doing it before! lol
pinting out the total lack of actual evidence is not riducule, and it IS eth way forard.
I have given you evidence but you will not listen no matter what I provide...
OTOH if you think that asking people to believe that a spraying programme from 50 years ago, from a small number of aircraft (and also from land and sea!) for a stated purpose, that looked nothing like "chemtrails" supposedly do today, proves that there are "chemtrails" - if you think THAT is the way forward, then I think you are the one subjecting everyone to ridicule for insulting their intelligence.
Look it doesn't matter as you will not listen to reason or logic and you will not look at the evidence... So what is the point in discussing it?
the chemical being silver iodide burnt in candles attached to the exterior of a small plane, not sprays from big jets.
the fact that it is rubbish does not mean I didn't look at it - it means it is rubbish.
Originally posted by mee30
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
that is it not from airliners, that it is not at high altitude, that it does not look like contrails, that he "trails" last only a few seconds whereas "chemtrails" supposedly last much longer, that it is not a secret.
Okay so they have been messing about with this tech for over 50 years but they have not progressed? They have NO secret trials going on? Yeah okay mate... How do you know they haven't developed a means to mix this stuff into jet fuel?
Look I really can't be bothered with you because you just make up all sorts of non-sense and claims that just are not true... I will not waste my time arguing this with you as you have already completely made up your mind... Besides I don't care what you think about it...
Originally posted by mee30
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
that is it not from airliners, that it is not at high altitude, that it does not look like contrails, that he "trails" last only a few seconds whereas "chemtrails" supposedly last much longer, that it is not a secret.
Okay so they have been messing about with this tech for over 50 years but they have not progressed?
They have NO secret trials going on?
Yeah okay mate... How do you know they haven't developed a means to mix this stuff into jet fuel?
Look I really can't be bothered with you because you just make up all sorts of non-sense and claims that just are not true...
I will not waste my time arguing this with you as you have already completely made up your mind...
Besides I don't care what you think about it...
I have included a youtube vid. that shows the interior of these retrofitted passenger planes to spray the aerosol... Note: that in the video it shows the tanks inside the aircraft.
Originally posted by mee30
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
the fact that it is rubbish does not mean I didn't look at it - it means it is rubbish.
Yup, governments admitting SECRET trials on it's own citizens is rubbish...
I am not "angry" at all...
Annoyed that you poo poo it out of hand, but not angry...
You will not listen so that's that...
Originally posted by mrdeadfolx
I've noticed that too, the forecast does indeed mention haziness in the late afternoon, oddly specific. Only on the televised forecast though, for our station anyway. The website doesn't mention the word "hazy". Interesting..
Originally posted by Iwinder
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We here in Ontario have never had a sunny day start to finish in the past 10 years and I can tell you I am unemployable so I spend every day I can in the yard and I observe....
Not one sunny blue sky day from morning to night ever!
I agree with your post and I can't explain the lack of a blue sky (Azure) but I sure am aware of it.
Originally posted by mee30
Noooooo, you don't seem to understand... They actually talk about the use of CHEMICALS to change the weather! You actually SEE a plane in the BBC report that is used to SPRAY the chemicals...
So what exactly are we missing here?
Originally posted by Iwinder
reply to post by flyswatter
Quote "As far as that video goes, it's been laughed off of ATS more times than I care to count. The pictures show the interior of planes set up for in-flight testing of weight distribution.
But really ... do you have anything that hasnt actually been rehashed on here a few hundred times?"
All this wisdom from a member whom joined just this year........I do believe your post was a bit harsh considering your past post history.
Regards, Iwinder
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
Originally posted by Iwinder
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We here in Ontario have never had a sunny day start to finish in the past 10 years and I can tell you I am unemployable so I spend every day I can in the yard and I observe....
Not one sunny blue sky day from morning to night ever!
I agree with your post and I can't explain the lack of a blue sky (Azure) but I sure am aware of it.
Yep - if you must live in Canada and want sunshine then it sucks to live in Ontario!edit on 28-11-2012 by Aloysius the Gaul because: crappy typing
Originally posted by mee30
When I say "talk" I meant there are government papers on it that tell you they are doing it... The UK has released papers that "talk" about how they tested biological weapons on it's own citizens! You think that means nothing?