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reply posted on 28-11-2012 @ 01:51 AM by MeesterB
Originally posted by SimonPeter
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The article I read was that they had developed a more transmissible virus that would kill 50% of the infected people. The Dutch scientist were elated to develop this terrible virus . Whether it was successful from the lab to be as deadly to humanity is not the point . Why did they feel it was their goal to do so ? And who paid for it ?


This is way off topic, but you need to be educated.
They did it so that they would know how far off the mass pandemic is from occuring, understand how it gets to the mass pandemic phase, and develop knowledge to stop it. I would be elated to find that 7ish steps were involved in making a virus an airborne pathogen. It's a big scientific discovery.
It's very important that it was done in ferrets and not in humans as it confirms that they didn't test on humans, and it shows that they don't have the human killer mutated virus. I honestly don't care who paid for it because it is public knowledge at this point so no one has the edge. Stop being outraged over it.

Sorry for the off topic post, the comment below is relevant for discussion
How much does political/military corruption play a role in the random rebel and militia actions? As I understand it, the national army doesn't get paid all that much and it leads to pillaging and raping. Is this a product of poor government spending or lack of national wealth? If they have so many natural resources then why is the military so much crap?(Been drinking, not a coherent thought, but I didn't want my post to be removed -.-)

Edit: typo
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reply posted on 28-11-2012 @ 02:08 AM by SimonPeter
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Are you familiar with Global Governments Agenda 21 and the Eugenics movement within that Group ? Eugenics methods to reduce population also include pandemics , wars and such .



reply posted on 28-11-2012 @ 02:14 AM by SimonPeter
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I still don't buy your answer . They already have data on how a pandemic would propagate unless they are engineering a unique virus . Then they were going to publish the results . Unless you were involved you also read what they allowed you to know .


reply posted on 28-11-2012 @ 02:29 AM by Goldcurrent
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My understanding of these mega-cities in China that remain inhabited, are that they are a result of rampant real estate speculation and that the holder of these properties will not sell for fear of a massive property bubble burst such as the U.S.

There are many wealthy Chinese investors who look for tangible assets to invest (eg. real estate). With the wealthy never intending to actually occupy this 'tangible' asset, many of these complexes remain empty. It's bizarre really, but who knows? It's really sad to see as I'm sure there are many people who could be living there.


reply posted on 28-11-2012 @ 07:36 AM by milominderbinder
Originally posted by Spike Spiegle

why is the world ignoring the Congolese war?


edition.cnn.com
The U.N. has labeled the DRC, Africa's second largest country, as the "rape capital of the world" because of the pace and scope of the use of rape as a weapon of war by proxy militia gangs fighting for control of Congo's easily appropriable and highly valuable natural resources, destined for sale in Europe, Asia, Canada and the United States.
(visit the link for the full news article)


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Because that SOB Van Owen blew of Roland's head.




reply posted on 28-11-2012 @ 11:40 AM by totallackey
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Fact of the matter is nobody gives two flips whether a bunch of black people kill themselves or not...I am sure the thinking is once they kill themselves off then we will go in and steal the natural resources.


reply posted on 28-11-2012 @ 11:55 AM by SimonPeter
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The we in your post is the Global Elite . The we as in you and me could be next on the Elite agenda .



reply posted on 28-11-2012 @ 12:14 PM by jibeho
We already have at the very least 100 spec. ops soldiers in Congo and surrounding areas and I can only imagine what they have been up to since Congress passed and Obama signed the Lord’s Resistance Army Disarmament and Northern Uganda Recovery Act of 2009 in 2010.
www.opencongress.org...

Then, in Oct 2011 he announced the deployment of 100 spec. ops forces to central Africa as detailed in the "Act" giving them authority to patrol and work in Uganda, Congo, Sudan and the Central African Republic. Last I heard they've been there ever since...

For more than two decades, the Lord’s Resistance Army (LRA) has murdered, raped, and kidnapped tens of thousands of men, women, and children in central Africa. The LRA continues to commit atrocities across the Central African Republic, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, and South Sudan that have a disproportionate impact on regional security. Since 2008, the United States has supported regional military efforts to pursue the LRA and protect local communities. Even with some limited U.S. assistance, however, regional military efforts have thus far been unsuccessful in removing LRA leader Joseph Kony or his top commanders from the battlefield. In the Lord’s Resistance Army Disarmament and Northern Uganda Recovery Act of 2009, Public Law 111-172, enacted May 24, 2010, the Congress also expressed support for increased, comprehensive U.S. efforts to help mitigate and eliminate the threat posed by the LRA to civilians and regional stability.

The President notes in the letter that the combat team deployed on October 12, two days ago. And he promises that a “second combat-equipped team” will deploy sometime in the next month.

This relatively small force will be able to go into Uganda, South Sudan, the Central African Republic, and the Democratic Republic of the Congo, subject to approval from each of those countries. So you have a small roving band of US military personnel trying to take out Joseph Kony in Africa.

The Administration’s claimed legal justification comes from a law called the Lord’s Resistance Army Disarmament and Northern Uganda Recovery Act of 2009, originally sponsored by Russ Feingold. Human Rights Watch were among the endorsers of the bill. I’m not sure this is what they had in mind. The bill authorizes the President to “provide additional assistance” to the region affected by the LRA, but there is absolutely nothing explicit about the deployment of combat forces in that law. The Constitution reserves the power to declare war to Congress alone, and they did not do that in the Lord’s Resistance Army Disarmament and Northern Uganda Recovery Act of 2009. There’s a clause about “political, economic, military, and intelligence support” that I suppose is the thin reed upon which this all hangs. The signing statement by the President after passage of the law says absolutely nothing about the deployment of forces.

More from ABC. The forces are combat-equipped but supposedly only giving logistical advice. However, the order is a capture or kill order on Joseph Kony. But I guess it doesn’t constitute “hostilities.”


Why haven't the captured or Killed Joseph Kony yet??

news.firedoglake.com...

We're there alright and so are others (private contractors) fighting Obama's African Proxy wars. Yes. were still in Somalia www.nytimes.com...

Contractors in the same area as our Spec. Ops soldiers

To further disguise the mission, the U.S. military has taken another unusual step: It has largely outsourced the spying operation to private contractors. The contractors supply the aircraft as well as the pilots, mechanics and other personnel to help process electronic intelligence collected from the airspace over Uganda, Congo, South Sudan and the Central African Republic.

In October, President Obama sent about 100 elite U.S. troops to central Africa to scour the terrain for Joseph Kony, the messianic and brutal leader of a Ugandan rebel group. But American contractors have been secretly searching for Kony from the skies long before that, at least since 2009, under a project code-named Tusker Sand, according to documents and people familiar with the operation.


WE, know damn well that Obama is fully aware what is happening in Congo and in this region. Too bad this was never brought up during the election campaign.

U.S. Africa Command, which oversees military operations on the continent, declined to discuss specific missions or its reasons for outsourcing the gathering of intelligence.


www.washingtonpost.com...

www.washingtonpost.com...
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reply posted on 28-11-2012 @ 12:20 PM by TheToastmanCometh
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That's the guy.

I believe I remember reading that Leopold had the greatest colony to actual country ratio...as in the Congo, or as he called it Belgian Congo was some sizes bigger than Belgium, when the other contries [France, England, Spain] had colonies roughly similar or smaller in size to the home country.

Something along those lines.



reply posted on 28-11-2012 @ 12:40 PM by jibeho
Read up... we're not ignoring anything... We're part of it...

www.tomdispatch.com...

Tusker Sand

Tusker Sand is a manned airborne intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR) platform, along with an associated intelligence fusion cell designed to address emerging theater collection requirements and command strategy to build partner nation capacity. The Tusker Sand system is capable of gathering various types of intelligence. The system is designed for persistent surveillance. The Tusker Sand system consists of a pair of contractor-owned/contractor-operated Beechcraft King Air aircraft (C-12 equivalent), with at least one of the aircraft being fitted with the Jungle Advanced Under Dense-Vegetation Imaging Technology (JAUDIT) system. The aircraft have other sensors as well.

On 17 May 2010, US Africa Command (AFRICOM) announced a presolicitation for Africa Command ISR Initiative Operations (Aii Ops) contract. The Tusker Sand program was a component of this larger initiative. The proposed Tusker Sand team would consist of at least 14 personnel. The sensor package would include electro-optical and infrared full motion video components, laser range finder, as well as, Light Detection and Ranging (LIDAR), Hyperspectral (HSI), Synthetic-Aperture Radar (SAR), and other sensors as appropriate. Data transfer and related systems would be provided, along with a ground control/intelligence fusion element. The system was to be mounted on a manned aircraft, and the contract stated that AFRICOM preferred the Pilatus PC-12/47 aircraft. The platform would be contractor-owned/contractor operated.

On 25 June 2010, the Aii Ops contract was delayed indefinitely. Tusker Sand continued as a separate program. The selected contractor reportedly used a Beechcraft King Air aircraft (C-12 equivalent) instead of the preferred type stated in the contract. Other similar programs utilized various types of aircraft, so it is possible that more than one type was in use. A signals intelligence (SIGINT) capability was also reportedly added to the system.

www.globalsecurity.org...
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reply posted on 28-11-2012 @ 02:16 PM by Spike Spiegle
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Yes, Belgian Congo was huge compared to her northern master, roughly 2,344,000 km2 was given over to king Leopold.

Belgian congo


SS


reply posted on 28-11-2012 @ 02:58 PM by SpeachM1litant
The continuation of perpetual conflict in the resource rich Eastern region of the DRC is profitable for Western corporations as long as the flow of coltan, gold, copper and diamonds continues. The rebels sell these resource to purchase arms, allowing them to continue their conflict. Despite the blockade on conflict minerals, these resources still make it to Western markets. All a dealer has to do is export it to another peaceful African country and then these resources are exported to Western markets. All of this is very cheap for Western corporations, but if the DRC was to stabilise and take control of its own resources, not so much.

Furthermore, I don't want to say it. I know a lot of people may disagree, but the Western world, and especially the US, simply has no interest in dark coloured people or in Africa.

Lets not forget the root cause of this issue. It heads back to colonial times. The Belgian domination of the Congo. The Belgian kind imposed a disgusting colonial regime. He created artificial nationality and forced blacks to work in slavery. Millions died. Other Congolese has their hands chopped off if they didn't meet their quotas. In fact, so many Congolese died during this period that they had to import other African slave workers from different parts of the continent. This resulted in the influx of conflicting tribal groups, primarily the Hutus and the Tutsis. The same problem that plagued Rawanda. Add to this the Rwandan genocide which resulted in the influx of Hutu refugees as the Hutu dominated government was overthrown following its slaughter of nearly a million Tutsis, the Belgian backed removal of President Patrice Lumumba in the 1960s (who asserted DRCs political independence) and the imposition of a dictator who misruled the country for almost 40 years.

The DRC is a country scared and ravaged by Western imperialism. Many ignorant fools on this forum will try to deny this, saying that colonialism finished many years ago (when in fact it hasn't, it continues in the form of economic colonialism - neo colonialism), but the influence that Western powers have had in Africa and the ramifications of this can still be seen today, and will continue to be seen for hundreds of years to come.
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