It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Essentially society has created a self centred, ego led humanity with little regard for the natural order of things. As such it is essentially doomed in it's current form. Castles made of sand. This is happening now with global economic and environmental collapse. Humanity should rethink it's leaders and know that somewhere along the line it was misled.
Originally posted by LoveisanArt
I dont NEED evidence.. before the past 50 years no one required evidence you ignorant moron. Humans share stories through means of vocals, thank our memory banks for storing this information..
Nowadays you all want pictures, videos of SPACESHIPS AND ALIENS! ARE YOU SREIOUS? And I look dumb? You people are soo lost from the truth. My mind is obviously more developed then most of the posters, posting here.
You CANNOT believe in the existence of something until you have a picture of video of it? Its not evidence if you see it with your own eyes; as millions have and shared there experience like normal humans, but you so called skeptics STILL dont believe because YOU didnt witness anything.
15 pages of child excuses. Not ONE person has openly admitted that the REASON they do not believe is because they dont want to. You follow outside sources like NASA who work for government and personal purposes ONLY. THEY DONT WORK FOR THE PUBLIC. The public is too stupid to understand this. You ACT like a skeptic to feel safe and confident in your intelligence, because society teaches you NOT to believe or give credit to something if science hsan't backed it up..
WHATEVER DUDE! Millions and millions are experiencing this 'phenomena'Its all coming soon enough.
Originally posted by DJW001
Skepticism is an attitude, not a belief. It embraces methodologies like critical thinking, logic and the scientific method to arrive at knowledge. Belief is founded on an unquestioning acceptance of another's authority or simple wish fulfillment. It does not result in knowledge.
Originally posted by longlostbrother
Originally posted by theabsolutetruth
Originally posted by stanislav
How is your age and life experience have anything to do with what I just said to you in my other post? I have experienced first hand alien abduction, astral projection, sleep paralysis, shadow beings and a whole lot of paranormal activities throughout my childhood till this day. So what ??? I can tell you with all honesty that even though I have had all of the above and more, I cannot say without a doubt that any of these was real. There is literally no proof of it other than my own subjective testimony. Personal experience is VERY subjective. For all I know it could have all been nothing more than my imagination, delusions, wishful thinking etc ... So when I speak about people like you and OP being delusional it is because I know this from FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE.
Originally posted by theabsolutetruth
reply to post by stanislav
I am 41 years old, I have believed in extraterrestrial life since a child due to experiences. I didn't watch many sci fi movies as a child and didn't believe in it as true. Studying physics as a teenager, as well as religions and spiritual things has confirmed my belief, as well as my studies as an adult. You tube only became known to me within the last 8 years and trust me, most of the alien videos on there are nonsense and I don't believe David Icke or Sitchin nor the galactic federaton of light and such.
I am well educated, I make intelligent judgments, I also have a lot of life experience which confirms my beliefs, as do the stats.
You accused me of getting my beliefs from youtube.
Yet again, go back and read my post instead of presuming things I didn't say. Wasting my time arguing things I didn't say is pointless so go back and point out something specific you don't agree to and read my words in context.
I don't care where you get your beliefs - I care if you have evidence to back up your beliefs.
Originally posted by DelMarvel
reply to post by LoveisanArt
In my opinion you had no intention of any real exchange of information or open minded discussion of these issues. You started this thread to troll skeptics and to give yourself an opportunity to claim superiority. I don't see any difference between this and whatever negative behavior you are accusing skeptics of.
Originally posted by theabsolutetruth
reply to post by stanislav
Presumably you are calling this guy stupid and illogical, this guy who probably is more educated in such scientific, logical matters as Physics than you, as well as having actually studied the search for extraterrestrial life, which presumably you don't hold any qualifications in Physics or Astrophysics, Quantum Mechanics etc, oh wait did MSM give you the idea...MSM that basically glorifies nonsense and makes humanity a ridiculous parody of itself? Perhaps you could write a manual on how to not to learn the truth of the universe.
science.howstuffworks.com...
These discoveries have served as an affirmation for those involved with the search for extraterrestrial intelligent life, or SETI. Harvard physicist and SETI leader Paul Horowitz boldly stated in a 1996 interview with TIME Magazine, "Intelligent life in the universe? Guaranteed. Intelligent life in our galaxy? So overwhelmingly likely that I'd give you almost any odds you'd like."
Originally posted by theabsolutetruth
reply to post by longlostbrother
I never mentioned giving evidence. Again go back and actually read my post before presuming.
Originally posted by DENBY
Skepticism is the product of one's fear of the reality of something that one would rather not face.
I have seen a 'Flying Saucer'. Not a Light/Dot/Speck/&etc but a classic 'Flying Saucer'.
My own Dear Sainted Mother brushed me off saying she would have to see it with her own eyes.
This from a Woman who has had many later validated premonitions & who had witnessed the same in her own Mother.
It seems that the concept of an "Alien Lifeform' is too far beyond the comfort zone of many People.
And why not? They may be far smarter than we but are they wiser?
Do they experience emotion as we do? Or are they emotionless biological automatons who would rip our limbs off to watch us squirm like a young Boy rips the wings off flying ants?
Or... ?
Originally posted by theabsolutetruth
reply to post by stanislav
This is trolling, you accused me of hating starving people in Africa based on nothing. I never mentioned Alex Jones (whoever that is) or starving people or Africa or even if I cared about anything enywhere. Stop trolling.
Originally posted by theabsolutetruth
Originally posted by longlostbrother
Originally posted by theabsolutetruth
Originally posted by stanislav
How is your age and life experience have anything to do with what I just said to you in my other post? I have experienced first hand alien abduction, astral projection, sleep paralysis, shadow beings and a whole lot of paranormal activities throughout my childhood till this day. So what ??? I can tell you with all honesty that even though I have had all of the above and more, I cannot say without a doubt that any of these was real. There is literally no proof of it other than my own subjective testimony. Personal experience is VERY subjective. For all I know it could have all been nothing more than my imagination, delusions, wishful thinking etc ... So when I speak about people like you and OP being delusional it is because I know this from FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE.
Originally posted by theabsolutetruth
reply to post by stanislav
I am 41 years old, I have believed in extraterrestrial life since a child due to experiences. I didn't watch many sci fi movies as a child and didn't believe in it as true. Studying physics as a teenager, as well as religions and spiritual things has confirmed my belief, as well as my studies as an adult. You tube only became known to me within the last 8 years and trust me, most of the alien videos on there are nonsense and I don't believe David Icke or Sitchin nor the galactic federaton of light and such.
I am well educated, I make intelligent judgments, I also have a lot of life experience which confirms my beliefs, as do the stats.
You accused me of getting my beliefs from youtube.
Yet again, go back and read my post instead of presuming things I didn't say. Wasting my time arguing things I didn't say is pointless so go back and point out something specific you don't agree to and read my words in context.
I don't care where you get your beliefs - I care if you have evidence to back up your beliefs.
Are you asking all scientists for evidence, to sit some deoxyribonucleic acid in your hand and for you to recognise it as as alpha helix DNA structure, because otherwise you won't believe it? Are you asking for the Hubble telescope to produce a 3D cube of space in your virtual reality sphere? Are you asking for quantum entanglement theory to be proven to you before you believe in it? Most of ''logical'' science is built upon abstract ideas and THEORIES. Are you saying you do not believe in these also?
Originally posted by LoveisanArt
Once again for those who havent read... Im leaving for Alberta tonight, I have some more packing the truck etc to do.. then a 2-3day drive out west. Dont have anymore time for the thread, learned enough about human ignorance though
Thanks for entertaining yourselves skeptics, Life is a WHOLE lot more then you are currently perceiving it to be. That is the truth your missing out, this is what science cant tell you yet.
If your intelligence and view on life is based on the progression of science, a human thought processing.. then your entire life is a waste of its own journey. Humans will eventually figure it "all" out; but right now we are in the toddler stage. We just had our FIRST technological development period in our known timeline about 100 years ago.. we havent understood everything within a century, stop acting like we have.
ETs will show themselves when they think WE are ready. Like I know now, the ETs know we are not ready for contact OR high-tech. We would turn it into flying killing machines or bombs anyways...
Your race, yourself for that matter, is not as intelligent as you arrogantly perceive you are. BIGGEST mistake one can make is being over confident in the unknown universe..
Love and prosper to all of you on your travels; peace
~ Love is an art (because you love signatures people)
Originally posted by DENBY
Skepticism is the product of one's fear of the reality of something that one would rather not face
Originally posted by denver22
Originally posted by Pladuim
So, where does your "open mind" lead you when discussing the Starchild skull?
Pladuim
congenital hydrocephalus. look it up...
remember be like a skeptic and look at "all avenues".... my freind
Originally posted by longlostbrother
reply to post by stanislav
You can't.
In all seriousness, this is basically the post of someone with mental health issues.
I'm not saying that to win an "argument," but because it's so illogical, filled with insane misunderstandings about logic and history and sooo soo soo aggressive and arrogant...
It's, frankly, disturbing.