I have a job,my fridge is well stocked,I have a car,the tank is always kept full,I have survival food and stored water.

I eat dumpster food regularly,cuz my frickin job don't pay squat,I don't drive my car often at all,I ride a bicycle almost everywhere I go,cuz the expense cannot justify the convenience.

Fresh hot pizza after the restaurant shuts down,out dated stuff from the grocery store....

The survival food and stored water is for emergencies,...

Keep your tools in the box unless you absolutely have to take them out.

Who said that?...Just because you can,doesn't mean you should...I dunno,I don't remember....?

I have everything I need and more,I seldom use any of it cuz I'm poor.

People have become complacent,they take most things for granted.

That's why # like this happens.

If you are too proud to eat garbage to survive,the sleezebags in the world have you trained well.

They wait to sell you their overpriced poisonous #,and most are loyal consumers.

Aww, survival is easy in these type situations. Lets say you weren't totally prepared, but the storm and surge didn't wash away that case of ramen. If it ain't soggy you will need water... preferably the bottled water that didn't wash away either. You will need to get a pot of sorts out of the wreckage of your home . Wash it in the little bottled water you have to get the salty, sewage, gasoline brine off it. Then build a fire from dry wood that hasn't also been soaked with sewer water.

Make a fire pit, put a grill on it and boil your water adding ramen and lots of spices. Save the water, you will wash in it later. Keep the fire stoked, you will be eating and sleeping in front of it all night and the temperature is dropping almost to freezing. Place sentries and guard the smell of your "Top" Ramen sos it doesn't drift past your neighbors. They are hungry too.

By this weekend they will eat their pets. On Monday they will eat rats and birds. But it's Okay... on Tuesday the NY Marathon is going to happen. Just need to clear a few more bodies from the road first.

I know it ain't that bad, or is it?

I've seen and heard about all the people that live in New York's vast underground tunnel areas.... homeless and crazies and people of questionable choices, etc. Maybe its these people who have been driven out of the tunnels that are now so desperate, and there are also the people that have the micro apartments because of the insane square footage prices for apartments, so they really do eat hand to mouth and don't have any storage space for necessities like food and water and warm clothes or what have you, but other than that..... what kind of idiots don't prepare, considering all the warning that was given? Bravado, ego, foolishness... who knows? But yeah, if the SHTF, the people that are dumpster diving after 3 days (unless their homes and supplies were destroyed) because of a lack of even semi-consciousness about how to get ready for a bit of disaster, then they are DOOOOOOMED in an even worse case scenario. And they were panicking after a mere 3 days? Wow. I guess we have a different mentality out here in Wyoming! Take care of your neighbors, but also.... take care of yourself and be fairly self reliant.

i know many of them lost everything, and they all have unique situations. but i have 3 days worth of food in my home.
i can CARRY 3 days worth of food for 3 people.


i cant help but be slightly cold hearted at this. just like with Katrina. some people apparently dont even want to survive. americans are all literally waiting to be taken care of.

Originally posted by rickymouse
People need to learn humility sometimes. Be happy these people are diving in dumpsters instead of robbing other people. I actually respect these people for their honesty and morals, I know some people who would take a gun and rob someone's food. Some of these people are well to do in society.

Hear, hear!
Not prepared, but doing what they can in an honest manner in a horrible situation.
I have respect for that.

you guys have to understand, most people in the areas affected were already poor. They couldn't afford in many cases to buy a week's worth of food, since they were like the rest of the world, poor and in debt. If you had an extra 50 bucks you would pay the phone bill or a utility or buy other things you and yours need since your kid needs electricity and school supplies. Maybe the elderly in your home need medicine. ect.

People think NY has an abundance of rich people. The ones that work there AND live there aren't. You pay what rent you can for a roach infested apartment you share with too many people.

It is not like you have a really nice car and like expensive vacations. Most people in NYC live pay check to paycheck. Some can't get by without aid, and others just can't get by.

You also have to take into account the size of an average apartment in the city. They are very small. You can't stock up more than what your kitchen can hold, and that is not much.

I see people being way to hard on NYers. You just don't know what it is like to live in a major metropolitan area.

Visit, maybe, live there, no idea. You don't have a month of food on hand because for one, it is really expensive. Try shopping in NY, look at the prices in grocery stores. Not like rural USA, I can tell you that,

and two, you don't have the space for it.

City life is daily shopping, eating out, and trying to save money for an ever increasing cost of life.


NYC poor is not like Alabama poor. You can't just visit your friends house and ask for some food. Your neighbor doesn't have it, and if he does, not allot.


It is easy to say they are deserving of this. But that makes you an apathetic jerk who knows nothing of city life. It is a hard knock life as is. Add the largest storm in US history, and you get this.

No one in a desert is ready for a flood.

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
How does anyone know these weren't "prepared" people with a basement so well stocked, the neighborhood could live off it for a week. ....yeah.. Basement full. Hmm..

There is no joy in the suffering of other people like this...

I was thinking that last night whilst watching the news. Most preppers, whilst well stocked, they will probably have their basements full and this will be all flooded out now.

Worth investing a in a few waterproof containers if you can't keep your food out of harms way.

I would love to see a "post-Sandy preppers report" website set up, somewhere to share experiences and suggestions for next time. Much will have been learnt from this storm.

CX.

The recent floods and other disasters will hopefully open some eyes. People can't even live without stores and electricity. Sad. This is one of the reasons I wont be living in a city. People cant use their stoves because gas lines and electricity is still out and whatever therefore they can't make food. The stores don't have food because there's no power there either.

How did people survive before walmarts, cell phones, and food prepared for them? Hungry, ok make a fire and hunt stuff to eat. Cant start a fire in the city police will be called. Point is, too many people are so dependent on the systems in place that when a disaster happens they are lost and can't survive.

This is why it's important to actually do the emergency preparedness.. Make up a quick grab bag of supplies as well. In case of an evacuation order, you should be able to leave with only 15 minutes notice at all times. There are plenty of websites with tips on what you might need for every type of disaster, that you would never think of, like trash bags for a rain jacket, Tin foil not just for cooking but can be used as a signal.

My most used items in power outages, apart from candles and a flashlight are my portable radio and old style phone because cordless doesnt work in an outage. My cell phone wasn't working at all in the last power outage.