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Originally posted by BlindBastards
Why does one need a relationship with God? I agree with most of your points though, except that one. They seem to be content. The majority have no desire to learn nor be informed. Being dumb, uneducated and clueless can often be seen as cool. But as long as they’re happy for now. Though those blissfully unaware are often rudely awakened at some point.
Originally posted by redbarron626
Of course you realize that Alex Jones makes his money off the consumer buying goods/services from his sponsors?
I put him right up there with Rush Limbaugh, pure entertainment not to be taken seriously. You may disagree but the fact that he is on radio means that he takes his money from the very people he is putting down.
Originally posted by r2d246
I was at the mall the other day. I was thinking about how Alex Jones calles the brainwashed, zombie, sheeple slaveclass....."the trendies".
...
They're all running a variety of patterns:
- The keeping up with the jones effect
- playing out the roles of there day jobs
- living threw the ego
- oblivious to TPTB or anything outside of MSM
- completely dependent on the system
....
American talk radio host, actor and filmmaker, Alexander Emerick “Alex” Jones, has an estimated net worth of $5 million.
If more people would just use their critical mind and pay more attention to him, more people would know much earlier about the Farces that MSM brought upon us...
Originally posted by r2d246
I was at the mall the other day. I was thinking about how Alex Jones calles the brainwashed, zombie, sheeple slaveclass....."the trendies".
Your have spiraled circular logic so tightly that I am at a loss for words on how to untangle it.
In essence what you are saying is that:
1) AJ is an alternative news source
2) He bucks the system
3) People ignore him because they just can't handle the truth
4) All of this somehow makes him more credible than other people
Some people make money saying things that people pay attention to. Glenn Beck made a fortune out of it before people started smelling the BS, his ratings dropped, and he was moved out of the spotlight.
The danger with being a follower is you can't see where it is you are being led to. Just something to keep in mind.
Originally posted by boncho
reply to post by sidLives
Someone who capitalizes off people's fear, and does absolutely nothing in regards of getting to the truth.
Oh boy... Just a reminder: The MSM capitalizes off people's fear. Weapons of Mass Destruction. How many voices were there to bring us to down to our senses?
How many people lost theirs savings on the advise of the "experts" of the MSM? Who was talking about the wall street schemes?
How many of such examples would be necessary to move on in the discussion?
Persuade people to change their mind, every one decides by himself in what to believe...
People have Free Choice, AJ is just one more voice in the chore and by far not the worse (if you ask me)
Com on people... It's getting boring and it is not fair.
edit on 16-10-2012 by sidLives because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by sidLives
reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan
Greetings bigfatfurrytexan,
thanks for your reply. Let me see if I can give you a reasonable reply.
Your have spiraled circular logic so tightly that I am at a loss for words on how to untangle it.
I hope it was a complement, if not sorry for that... I just tried to get my point across.
In essence what you are saying is that:
1) AJ is an alternative news source
2) He bucks the system
3) People ignore him because they just can't handle the truth
4) All of this somehow makes him more credible than other people
For the first point: I'm really surprised that that you're asking me if AJ (Infowars, prison planet and so on) can be considered an alternative new source. Well, I'd say yes. Actually when I hear anybody talking about Alternative News Sources", the name AJ pops up quite fast.
I can not see AJ as main stream... Can you?
point 2: He bucks the system --- Well, like everybody else... We all do, in one way or the other. He just managed to make bucks and say what he thinks, without breaking any law.
Quite brilliant if you ask me.
It is a Free Enterprise like any other. I'd say that he just found a market...
He lives from Free Speech and his own hard work.
I don't see any problem here.
As long as he keeps his status as "NOT TOO BIG to FAIL" and doesn't take any public money to keep going...
Do you see, he used his own capital money, he sells his own ideas and ideals, I never saw any promotion of violence...
I think it's just fine.
Many people want to have a say on the course of the society. Till not long a go it was a very tight compartmentalized brunch of business (the information Business), thanks to the internet every person can be an alternative information source. Quite good, don't you think so?
What do you say?
point 3: People ignore him because they just can't handle the truth ---
Not at all, that's not what I meant... I just think that people are just too quick to judge him.
Can it be, that it's because one finds so annoying that one have to hit the stop button before his delivery is finished?
I don't know. And I just want to know why.
Since he never applied to the American Idol Show, I'd like to have some better arguments against his views and less about his style. I simply don't see any rational reason to defame people on the base of his look, point of views or style. I use to stick to the message and the content. He is on the business of information.
point 4: Isn't he nothing more than a cult of personality? Like anyone else with followers?
I don't see it so... Maybe you could give me some light on this. I'd appreciate to know more about it.
I'm definitely none of his followers.
I just want to give him credits, where I think he deserves some and I don't believe much in defamation based on difference of point of views.
Just Fair Game.
Some people make money saying things that people pay attention to. Glenn Beck made a fortune out of it before people started smelling the BS, his ratings dropped, and he was moved out of the spotlight.
The danger with being a follower is you can't see where it is you are being led to. Just something to keep in mind.
Here I'd like to point out that Glenn Beck and AJ belongs to two different "species of people". As far as I get it, AJ has his one voice, mind and is his own boss, what gives him the freedom to be himself.
We may or may not like him, but AJ has a much broader spectrum to act upon.
I don't have much to say against him. But, as I said, who knows better?
We should always be open minded, discent is part of the game.
Pls let me know where are your concerns
Peace
DENY IGNORANCE
Originally posted by boncho
reply to post by Raist
Exactly. He's a distraction. If people really wanted to "awaken" they would have to start using proper reasoning and logic, and that's precisely why no matter how much AJ you watch, you will never stop being a "sheep" (as it is so eloquently put by some...)
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by sidLives
Know what? Fair enough....you are correct. He is a free man plying his trade without harming anyone.
Originally posted by Raist
My view on AJ is this.
Sure I bought into him years ago, about the same time I came across ATS. I eventually joined ATS and even paid for a subscription to AJ.
I was sure AJ was onto something and I accepted his view. I saw all the stuff that was pointed out both from AJ and ATS. After a few years I started to notice that the stuff that was pointed out was getting nowhere, it was stagnant, dead in the water, a beached whale. Then it hit me, it was not a beached whale it just was not even a whale at all. Almost every bit of it was senseless fear mongering.
Now granted I am not saying AJ and ATS are not right in a few areas, after all a broken clock on the wall is right twice a day. What I am saying however, is that the vast majority of it is fear mongering.
For years now the government has been "planning" marshal law. For years now they have been ready to throw us all in FEMA camps. For years now they have been moving around FEMA railroad cars and the FEMA coffins. Any day now they are going to come clean on aliens, big foot, or what have you.
Of course this is 2012 and the world is going to end, no wait it is going to be a great awakening and everyone will be different, okay so it is just going to be another day and we will wake up in the same life we had the next day.
Of course all of those profits/psychics out there keep telling us about the meteor that is going to hit us, the hidden planet (cannot recall the name at the moment) is going to show up, something bad is going to happen, and tomorrows lottery numbers. My dogs rear end can predict stuff too.
Call me a negative Nancy or whatever, but this is how I have seen it after spending years diving into the subjects. Most of the ideas/hypothesis/beliefs I have seen hold as much water as my sieve. After years I believe the largest amount of the stuff spouted by any of these so called conspiracy experts/buffs what have you is nothing more than another form of mindless drivel not far different from the same drivel that is on prime time television daily.
To sum things up AJ used to have my support, and he still does report a few things from time to time worth mentioning. However, he is bias, and blinded, and purposely dramatizes emotion to get people worked up about things they are not sure what they are worked up about.