Banning the word 'fatty' is an insidious attempt at politically correct thought control

A UK Parliamentary group has recommend that ridiculing someone as 'fat' or 'obese' could become a hate crime.

It may become a crime in the UK to call a person fat

Norman Tebbit, former British cabinet minister has branded the proposal by the UK parliamentary group to make it a hate crime to call someone 'fat' or 'obese' as Orwellian though control.

The report, Reflections on Body Image, by the All Party Parliamentary Group on Body Image... ...recommends "a review into the scale of the problem of appearance-based discrimination and how this would be best tackled", suggesting that ridiculing someone as 'fat' or 'obese' could become a hate crime.

The study says that MPs should investigate putting "appearance-based discrimination" on the same legal basis as race and sexual discrimination.

The Telegraph

Norman Tebbit points out, that besides the fact that people would be at danger of being prosecuted for calling someone fat or obese, despite the fact that it may be true, such a law is thought control and 'Newspeak', as warned against by Orwell in his book 1984.

The group says that the Government should consider making the calling of someone "fatty" or "obese" a "hate crime". But suppose that the person is obese, what then? Would one risk jail for pointing out what was true?

Would it then be a crime for a mother, worried about a daughter's loss of weight, to talk to her about the dangers of anorexia?

At the heart of the doctrine of Newspeak was the realisation of the authorities in Orwell's novel 1984 that it is difficult to think about something for which there are no words. Here we see Members of Parliament ready to go down that dangerous path of thought control against which Orwell warned.

T he Telegraph

The political correctness movement is going too far.

While it may be offensive to call someone fat or obese, it may also be true. Yet, the PC movement is enshrining their beliefs into criminal law.

For instance, it is already a criminal offense in the UK under the Communications Act 2003 section 127, to post a message on the Internet which is held to be grossly offensive and causing distress to any person. The penalty is a maximum of 6 months in prison &/or £5,000 fine. A number of high profile cases have occurred recently in the UK where people have been prosecuted under the act.

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A 12-week prison sentence given to a man who posted offensive comments on Facebook about missing April Jones and Madeleine McCann has been criticised by legal commentators as disproportionate.

Over the Pennines a day later, Azhar Ahmed, also 20, of Ravensthorpe, West Yorkshire, was fined £300 and ordered to do 240 hours of community service for posting an offensive Facebook message following the deaths of six British soldiers.

Both were prosecuted under the Communications Act 2003.

Can we also look forward to being prosecuted for calling someone fat even if they are?

Well I'd say goodbye to freedom of speech.

But maybe that ship has already sailed.

Welcome to the wacky world of the left, have you committed any thought crimes or hate crimes yet today?

Originally posted by thehoneycomb
Well I'd say goodbye to freedom of speech.

But maybe that ship has already sailed.

Welcome to the wacky world of the left, have you committed any thought crimes or hate crimes yet today?

It is frightening.

Political Correctness is arguably Communist thought control disguised as good manners.

reply to post by ollncasino


Or taxation without representation.

Or indefinite detention without a cause.

Guilty till proven innocent.

I'd say discriminating somebody's weight is as bad as a racial comment, but it doesn't mean we're not allowed to say it - Plus who the # are they to tell me I can't say it? I have a mouth, and my mouth allows me to say anything, i'll say wtf I want and when I want to say it

Plus, calling somebody a fat twat might kick their asses into a much needed diet.

Political correctness gone mad!

Originally posted by n00bUK
I'd say discriminating somebody's weight is as bad as a racial comment, but it doesn't mean we're not allowed to say it - Plus who the # are they to tell me I can't say it? I have a mouth, and my mouth allows me to say anything, i'll say wtf I want and when I want to say it

Plus, calling somebody a fat twat might kick their asses into a much needed diet.

Political correctness gone mad!

Exactly. While calling someone fact can clearly be felt as offensive by the recipient, it may also be true.

Yet the all party parliamentary group is calling to make a statement of fact a crime.

Where will it end? If fat people are protected, why not stupid people? Will it also become an offense to call someone thick?

reply to post by ollncasino
Storm in a teacup.

A bunch of think-tankers flapping their gums and publishing a paper about it rather than the end of the world for free-speech.

According to the Body Image Inquiry:

* By the age of 14 half of girls and one third of boys have been on a diet to change their shape
* One in three men would sacrifice a year of life to achieve their ideal body
* Getting rid of dieting could wipe out 70% of eating disorders
* Up to one in five cosmetic surgery patients could suffer from body Dysmorphic disorder
* Appearance is the largest cause of bullying in schools

Study

The spirit of the report is to try and minimise the importance of body image in modern society. Yeah sure, they *might* be trying to sneak in a new era of 'thought control' but I think their first plan is help stop kids being paranoid about how they look and to lessen the name-calling about appearances.

reply to post by ollncasino


Well its happening in the US too, so your not alone.

Look up the borat thread. That might help explain this type of 'hypocritical' mentality.

Too bad common courtesy is a vague memory in society.
This wouldn't be an issue.

The same people that pushed the idea of no personal boundaries in expression are the same people that now want to impose legal rules on the same.

so instead of adressing the real issues behind the obesity epidemy like for example what we eat and how we eat it... nah let's just ban the adjective to feed the judicial machine further.

totally 1984ish

i'd say governments and states worldwide are getting way too fatty.
one of these days i might send them all to a fat farm, then we will really see who's the biggest looser.

i'll still call fat people fat, they want to sue me? they better catch my skinny arse first.

I would hazard a guess that 99.8% of fat people have completely brought it upon themselves. They can scream “I have a medical condition” all they like, but when you sit on your arse all day and all night and eat more junk food and rubbish then a family would in a week each day as well as drinking 10L of coke I say that you have no right to complain when someone points out a true fact that you are indeed a fatty. Far too precious and this would set a horrid precedent. What’s next? You can’t make fun of someone’s awful hair? You can’t point out someone’s disgusting shirt? Where would it end?

So there you are in the local grocery store in the veggy section looking for some ripe tomatoes and you turn to put your produce in your basket and bam...somone waddles by wearing tight spandex and they've got folds upon folds of jiggling flesh pouring out and you try not to stare..or laugh..

Thats one form..

Would that also mean id have to re-name my cat? Cause she called "fatty", when you call her she comes running all 30 pounds of her...and yes she FAT..


So how is this a conspiracy?

Is confuzzled...

reply to post by BlindBastards


Yeah, but its not exactly the fatties making this argument is it?

Whens the last time you saw a bunch of fatties walking down the street protesting and holding up signs?

Im waging on never.

Originally posted by Kandinsky
reply to post by ollncasino

 

Storm in a teacup.

A bunch of think-tankers flapping their gums and publishing a paper about it rather than the end of the world for free-speech.

According to the Body Image Inquiry:

* By the age of 14 half of girls and one third of boys have been on a diet to change their shape
* One in three men would sacrifice a year of life to achieve their ideal body
* Getting rid of dieting could wipe out 70% of eating disorders
* Up to one in five cosmetic surgery patients could suffer from body Dysmorphic disorder
* Appearance is the largest cause of bullying in schools

Study

The spirit of the report is to try and minimise the importance of body image in modern society. Yeah sure, they *might* be trying to sneak in a new era of 'thought control' but I think their first plan is help stop kids being paranoid about how they look and to lessen the name-calling about appearances.

If you're fat, suck it up. This is not anything like calling somebody a racial slur, they aren't said racial slur, they are human -- and all humans can be fat -- and that's all there is to it.

I don't think this has anything to do with kids, it's more probable that it's a person who IS fat who gets called FAT and cries about it; that is behind this push.

It's never okay to put someone in jail or fine them for calling someone fat -- guess what, I know a bunch of people who are fat and call themselves fat, are we gonna put them in jail too? I also know people who WERE fat and aren't anymore because they hated being called fat.

So in that scenario, not only did it teach patience, but it also taught control over self.

People need to stop being so "omg he called me so and so." People called me spic and I'm not even Spanish, I've been called ugly, I've been called stupid, I've been called everything you can think of, and you know what I do? I lol that someone is calling me names.

I don't cry about it and scream and then go to the government and say so and so called me FAT! put him in jail!

This is absurd that you can accept this, this is absolutely non-sense.

##SNIPPED##

But see, that's the problem with the world now -- I was in a bank the otherday, they wanted 2 forms of ID and my thumb print to cash a cashiers check. I was upset because I didn't want to give my fingerprint, and they already cashed my last 2 checks without one. She was rude and snippy and rotten and giving me a hard time when all I asked was "Why didn't I have to do this the last two weeks in a row?" and so I drop my I.D. on the counter and she screams, GET OUT YOU THREW YOUR I.D. AT ME, even the guy next to me said "Ma'am, he didn't, he put it on the counter" the manager came over and told me I had to get out and he wouldn't give me my check back, and again -- the guy next to me in line said "Sir, HE DIDN'T THROW IT, he dropped it on the counter" the manager snapped at him and said "I SAW HIM THROW IT, HE THREW IT AT HER, HE CAN GTFO OF MY BANK" and I asked for my check and he called security.

I didn't leave until I got my check back, but why in the "f" did that happen at all? Because people don't have the right to be upset or question anything anymore, we are to do what we're told or we're cut off from the system.

This is the same exact thing as what is proposed here with this whole "Fat" thing. The PC is getting way too out of control and nobody has the right to anything anymore, you don't even have the right to say "I'm unhappy with your bank, in the future I won't use it" without getting thrown out.

It's because people are becoming ridiculous.

All over the world, nobody can take an insult anymore, let alone unhappy feedback with their service. What ever happened to speech?

reply to post by Laykilla

This is absurd that you can accept this, this is absolutely non-sense.

Yeah, God forbid that anyone would want kids to worry less about their body image.

We should march on London and hang these people immediately!

Originally posted by Kandinsky
reply to post by Laykilla

 

This is absurd that you can accept this, this is absolutely non-sense.

Yeah, God forbid that anyone would want kids to worry less about their body image.

We should march on London and hang these people immediately!

Um, kids SHOULD worry about their body image. Everyone should. When did that become something we don't care about?

If you don't teach a kid to be healthy, they won't be. What is so wrong with teaching kids that they shouldn't be obese?

There is everything wrong with defending that point of view.

This isn't like driving a purple car, your body is your body and the more out of shape it gets, the more unhealthy and prone to risk you become. I'm not saying everyone should look like Ken and Barbie, but they should at least strive not to be way over weight.

Over weight is a thing, because people die because of it. We don't just go, ya know -- we shouldn't care about the health of our people, and we shouldn't encourage people to care about their body because it's wrong for a kid to worry about their body image.

This is like living in a bubble. If you live in a pristine bubble and shelter yourself from all disease, you become more prone to die when and if you get one.

It's not something that should be promoted, because it's factually unhealthy to not care.

double post

Fat people, skinny people...what's the big deal, call a spade a spade. I'm sorry but do you want your kids to look like this? If not then it's about time we start teaching these how to treat their bodies with respect. Medical disorders bla bla yeah I've heard it all before, truth is...many people are just too lazy to get any exercise done and later blame it on an under active thyroid. Stop eating Micky D's and get some fruits and vegetables in your gut!

Originally posted by Kandinsky
Storm in a teacup.

A bunch of think-tankers flapping their gums and publishing a paper about it rather than the end of the world for free-speech.

It was an all party parliamentary group that produced the report, not a bunch of 'think-tankers flapping their gums', so I don't share your optimism that it is a 'storm in a teacup'.

Here is their home page

All Party Parliamentary Group on Body Image

All Party Parliamentary Groups are formed by MPs and Peers of any political party who have a common interest. They are not part of the Government and set their own agenda; they must also contain members from at least the three biggest political parties in the House of Commons.

All Party Parliamentary Group on Body Image

The group is made up of MPs and Peers from all parties. Quite worrying really.

Originally posted by Kandinsky

Yeah, God forbid that anyone would want kids to worry less about their body image.

Perhaps people have a body image that is based in objective reality? 2/3 of British adults are now overweight.

God forbid that someone points that fact out.

This really gets my goat, if they dont want to be called a fattie then lose weight! Hate crime my arse!

White people are white.

Black people are black.

And fat people are fat!

The first 2 above statements are unchangeable(Except of course for Michael Jackson). The last can be fixed by weightloss, you know not eating! A better notion by that logic would be to make obesity a hate crime, since we all hate obesity(Except of course for the feeders! LoL).