Banning the word 'fatty' is an insidious attempt at politically correct thought control

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posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 05:31 AM
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Originally posted by Kandinsky
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I did read the report, the report very specifically states that calling someone fat could become a hate crime.


You did not read the report. It has no mention of hate crime in it. By your argument I can now call you a liar.

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I suspect that a lot of people who assert that we shouldn't worry about the report's proposal that calling someone fat should be a hate crime, actually agree with the proposal.

This has gone beyond political correctness. It is transparent social engineering enforced by criminal law.


Weasel words Ol? I'm not in agreement with what you call 'the proposal.' I notice you've suddenly switched from *maybe* and *could* to 'enforced by criminal law.' Strawman much?

You're making a great deal about 'hate crimes' and somehow avoiding every opportunity to mention the actual contents of the report. Have you read it or did you just go off the Telegraph article? Do you even care about the issues in the report or just want to chat about the imaginary ifs and maybes of a world where you can't call people fat? Seems like you're quick to share your fears about not being able to call people names and slow to worry about the problems of self-image.





It comes as the report, Reflections on Body Image, by the All Party Parliamentary Group on Body Image and the Central YMCA recommends "a review into the scale of the problem of appearance-based discrimination and how this would be best tackled", suggesting that ridiculing someone as 'fat' or 'obese' could become a hate crime.



The study says that MPs should investigate putting "appearance-based discrimination" on the same legal basis as race and sexual discrimination.


The group says that the Government should consider making the calling of someone "fatty" or "obese" a "hate crime".


Apparently you missed those tid bits. The MP's conducted the study, they wrote the report, and here they are saying it's IN the report. These same people who conducted the report, The MP's, are using the report as ammunition to consider making it against the law. And IN THE REPORT, they state that MP's should investigate putting "appearance based discrimination" on the same legal basis as race and sexual discrimination.

I guess the problem here is that you're not the best reader. And that's okay -- I won't hold it against you, but you should be more thorough in the future before you sling out the name calling and try to brand me a "Liar."

I've been a member here considerably longer than you, and not once have I lied, nor participated in a thread without reading it in it's entirety first. I actually pride myself on that fact.

Some butthurt mod banned me because he didn't like what I said, nothing more, nothing less -- removed my post, so nobody could see what I said and left me with no way to really contest it. All I got was "Send an E-Mail to such and such an address to dispute your ban."

TBH, no -- I'm not going to do that, I'll just re-roll and call it a day, I don't need a target on my back to get banned again thanks.


P.S.

To be honest, being a moderator, you're quite poor with the social relations. You ARE wrong, and as such -- I deserve an apology. I won't get one, because it's beneath you, but what ever -- we both know the score here.

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posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 05:32 AM
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I'm against turning the words "fatty" and "obese" into a hate crime.

I'm against people being arrested here, there and everywhere for saying outragous and offensive things on the internet. I don't like seeing or hearing it, but i don't think people should be charged for it.

What i don't personally condone though is people treating other people like they are a lesser person because they are fat, and trying to bully them into submission, which is another thing that is becoming quite concerning these days.

If someone wants to eat bad food who are you to tell them not to? Who are you to point out that they are wrong? Just leave them be. It's their choice, not yours.

You all want to be able to have the choice to do what you want and say what you want, how about you let the people who eat what they want have theirs.

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posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 05:40 AM
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and i was born in 85' but that's besides the point.

1984 is a reference about the book by the same name by george orwell.

to summarize:

it's called 1984
it was published in 1949
it's about 2012

don't worry you haven't missed a thing, big brother is watching.



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 05:43 AM
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Originally posted by Laykilla

Apparently you missed those tid bits. The people who conducted the report, are using the report as ammunition to consider making it against the law. And IN THE REPORT, they state that MP's should investigate putting "appearance based discrimination" on the same legal basis as race and sexual discrimination.

I guess the problem here is that you're not the best reader. And that's okay -- I won't hold it against you, but you should be more thorough in the future before you sling out the name calling and try to brand me a "Liar."


But being aggressive and insulting opponents are classic tactics used by those who wish to advance a 'politically correct' agenda, so there is nothing usual in his response to this thread.

Sadly.



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 05:44 AM
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"it's called 1984
it was published in 1949
it's about 2012"

Thats a hell of a short summarisation of some very complex aspects that are improaching on everyday life. IMHO of course.
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posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 05:48 AM
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i'd call it constructive criticism or an intervention out of concern for public health and safety.

now eat your veggies fatty!




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posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 05:54 AM
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Originally posted by glen200376
To the people moaning about calling people fat-you do realize this is just another way to keep the people(mostly the kids)nice and soft,then they are easier to control treating government like a god who can solve their problems.Stick and stones springs to mind.Haven't read the whole article but will this include gingers too?
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I think this is a great point....who among us hasn't had our feelings hurt...especially growing up....I remember in grade school this mean bully starting calling me and my friend "lesie's" cause me and the other little girl were playing a game on the playground and were holding hands...LOL...I didn't even know what it meant until I went home crying and asked my Dad.....my Dad told me to stand my ground...and not to take it to heart.....I got my ass kicked by that bully....but I got in a few good punches and she never bothered us again...



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 06:08 AM
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true, but if i said anything more it would be considered a SPOILER for those who never read the book right?

i used 1984 as a valid reference, discussing the actual book itself is slightly offtopic.
anyone really interested shouldn't rely on my summary or anyone else really, they should go read the actual book.

but i know, reading a book is sooo last century eh. let's just form our opinions based on what others say.



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 06:13 AM
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"Anyone interested shouldn't rely on my summary or anyone else really, they should go read the actual book."

I second that, we were made to read it in school(Do they still do that?) many moons ago, the relevance and truths contained within Orwells mind are quite fascinating and very pertinent in todays society, almost surreal!
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posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 06:21 AM
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At least they forced people to exercise every morning in '1984'.

If you get your feelings hurt, tough luck, deal with it. It's part of life, without pain, anger and sorrow we wouldn't be able to appreciate joy.

They're trying to take our feelings away from us..next up in line is the thought crime, which can also be tied in with emotions. Go watch the movie Equilibrium for all those that haven't.
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posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 06:23 AM
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I believe the new word is Weight-Challenged.


Our societies are absolutely ridicolous when it comes to what people are allowed to speak about. Its an attempt to make people insecure and unable to talk about certain things in society out of fear of being ridiculed or fear of upsetting someone.

I have another word for you, designed to provoke an immediete negative response in most people:

Conspiracy Theorist

Words are powerful because they are connected to (usually false) images in peoples mind.

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posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 06:27 AM
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Originally posted by n00bUK

Originally posted by UziLiberman

totally 1984ish


I was born in 1987, never lived to witness this 1984(ish) witchcraft that people talk of. I'v heard this terminology used several times in the past 2 days and quite frankly, I feel left out on something that is obviously deemed an importance..

Please, enlighten one
If not, this is so 1984




1984 is a book by George Orwell about Big Brother watching you. It's a good book, you should read it.



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 06:39 AM
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Here are my thoughts: We are living in an era where kids don't go out to play but instead sit on the couch and play video games, we have drive-through cleaners, pharmacies, etc...No walking involved. Fast food restaurants have sprouted on every corner making it convenient to grab food, portion sizes are enormous at restaurants. There are hidden fats in food you buy at grocery stores, we're being tricked to accept 'Lite' as less fat and calories.

To me it seems as if they're trying to get us as fat as possible and to accept it as normal. Meanwhile, there are a host of illnesses associated with obesity; diabetes, sleep apnea, high blood pressure just to name a few. And people die from these illnesses. At the very least pharmaceutical companies are making massive profits off of us.

So when the day finally comes when it's martial law and they're rounding us up as cattle just exactly how fast and how far can we run or fight when we're so fat we can barely sit down?



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 06:43 AM
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It seems quite a few on this site throw thier hands up in outrage when they fear their personal choices and rights are being infringed upon.

But these same people are quite happy to infringe upon other peoples rights to make their own choices in life.

By telling someone who is overweight that what they are doing is bad and that they need to do this and that to live a healthier life. Whether it's;

"Hey fatty put down that cake and do some exercise"

or

"You are incedibly obese, you are eating all the wrongs things and not being active enough"

You are not giving them constructive criticism, you are in fact infringing on their own rights to do what they choose.

It is not your place to tell someone else that what they are doing is wrong and should be changed. The same way it is not the Governments place to tell everyone that all of their personal and lifestyle choices are wrong and should be changed.



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posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 06:46 AM
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One factor that I believe is very significant is the stress levels of the mother. In western society, life only gets more and more stressful every year, and naturally it affects the mothers and in turn, the unborn children as well.

Its natures way of making sure the offspring survives in a more "hostile" (stressful) environment. Nature enables the genes that it believes will be beneficial in the environment.

Some info in this article:

www.msnbc.msn.com...

Unfortunantly stress in the mother also seems to lead to slower learning in the kids:

somethingaboutscience.wordpress.com... -iq/

Article also mentions that fast food may lower your IQ. I dont touch the stuff but good to know for people who do.


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posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 06:48 AM
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reply to post by skitzspiricy
 


You know what they say, Ignorance is bliss and the truth hurts. Constructive or not, the truth shall set you free



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 06:49 AM
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"Here are my thoughts: We are living in an era where kids don't go out to play but instead sit on the couch and play video games"

The reason why there current gen is so fat me thinks!

"we have drive-through cleaners, pharmacies, etc...No walking involved. Fast food restaurants have sprouted on every corner making it convenient to grab food, portion sizes are enormous at restaurants. There are hidden fats in food you buy at grocery stores, we're being tricked to accept 'Lite' as less fat and calories."

Thats progress for you, one step forward and 2 steps back.

"To me it seems as if they're trying to get us as fat as possible and to accept it as normal. Meanwhile, there are a host of illnesses associated with obesity; diabetes, sleep apnea, high blood pressure just to name a few. And people die from these illnesses. At the very least pharmaceutical companies are making massive profits off of us."

Its called population management, an excepted evil im lead to believe, atleast in NWO circles.

"So when the day finally comes when it's martial law and they're rounding us up as cattle just exactly how fast and how far can we run or fight when we're so fat we can barely sit down?"

Yes it will make it reasonably easy for our Anunnaki masters when harvest time comes! LoL
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posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 06:55 AM
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Originally posted by DeadSnow
reply to post by skitzspiricy
 


You know what they say, Ignorance is bliss and the truth hurts. Constructive or not, the truth shall set you free


It's nothing to do with ignorance or truth.

Can you not actually see the hypocrisy here?



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 07:06 AM
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Originally posted by Bodhi911
reply to post by texasgirl
 


One factor that I believe is very significant is the stress levels of the mother. In western society, life only gets more and more stressful every year, and naturally it affects the mothers and in turn, the unborn children as well.

Its natures way of making sure the offspring survives in a more "hostile" (stressful) environment. Nature enables the genes that it believes will be beneficial in the environment.

Some info in this article:

www.msnbc.msn.com...

Unfortunantly stress in the mother also seems to lead to slower learning in the kids:

somethingaboutscience.wordpress.com... -iq/

Article also mentions that fast food may lower your IQ. I dont touch the stuff but good to know for people who do.


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Those are interesting articles, thanks. I didn't see it mention the size of the mothers, though. There are studies that show an obese couple producing offspring are passing it on to their kids.

What galls me, though, is when mothers complain their kids are getting fat but then I see their kid in a stroller with his mouth full of fries. They are not helping their children this way, only setting them up for future problems.



posted on Oct, 13 2012 @ 07:07 AM
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Well I can't speak on behalf of everyone here, but in my case...I wouldn't mind people criticizing me when I smoke, It's a filthy habit. I'm on the wrong, and for every action there will always be an equal and opposite reaction. I just don't see what the big deal is..

I remember when I was applying for college, there were two Africans right beside me. And during the application process they were asked what ethnicity they were, one of them responded saying "What do we look like Caucasians?", the attendant responded by saying "I'm sorry but it is against the schools policy for my to brand you as being part of a particular race, so are you of African descent?". He replied "No we're Caucasians" and grinned, the box was ticked as Caucasian and they proceeded to have their photo's taken.



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