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Originally posted by Juggernog
Originally posted by Annee
Then why is the Secret 11 hiding?
I really dont know annee, I havent been following this thread that closely, I just thought I would add my opinion.
Im not looking for an argument or debate.
thanks
Originally posted by JiggyPotamus
I was just mentioning outdated belief systems in another thread. Anyone who objectively views the situation will realize that being gay or straight is NOT a choice. With the majority of gay guys, it is obvious from when they are little kids. I have seen this firsthand with a cousin of mine too.
End The Boy Scout Bullying
September 27th, 2012 - Connie Schultz
There was a time, many years ago, when the Boy Scouts of America took a courageous stand in the face of bigotry.
For years, the Scouts had awarded a badge of honor bearing a swastika. It was called the Thanks Badge, meant to reward kindness. For centuries, the swastika was known only as an ancient symbol of well-being.
Then, in 1933, Adolf Hitler co-opted the swastika, declaring it the official Nazi symbol. The next year, the Boys Scouts dropped the swastika from their badge. In 1936, the Scouts announced that anyone who had been awarded the old badge could swap it for the new one.
I first wrote about this in 2002, praising the Scouts’ willingness to change, in contrast to those Americans who still insisted on displaying the Confederate flag, forever a symbol of one of the ugliest periods in U.S. history.
How I wish the Boy Scouts of America’s leadership of today could summon the same courage, the same commitment to justice.
Two years ago, under public pressure, the BSA assembled a committee of 11 “volunteers and professional leaders” to examine its policy of barring open gay Scouts and gay or lesbian adults from serving as leaders. In July of this year, the Scouts’ executive committee announced that this committee had affirmed this practice of discrimination.
The Scouts refused to disclose details about the process or the names of those who served on the committee. Think of it as the Boy Scouts version of a super PAC: You can promote bigotry, without fear of anyone’s knowing your name.
In a news release, BSA insisted that its policy to exclude gay boys and adults “reflects the beliefs and perspectives” of the organization.
www.nationalmemo.com...
Originally posted by EarthCitizen23
reply to post by Juggernog
Actually it worked out very well,, go look and see how Chick Fil a has made an about face.
So,, FAIL on your part.
Despite criticism and even threats to ban his restaurant in some areas, Chick-fil-A President Dan Cathy is sticking to his support for traditional family.
Originally posted by sad_eyed_lady
Despite criticism and even threats to ban his restaurant in some areas, Chick-fil-A President Dan Cathy is sticking to his support for traditional family.
Deny ignorance. So FAIL on your part.
Originally posted by Southern Guardian
Originally posted by JohnPhoenix
The boy's choice doesn't effect me personally, no
You say this, and then you say this:
Yes. I believe it should be a factor because the BSA openly states
You once again hide behind the Boyscouts as an excuse. You admit that his sexuality doesn't effect your life or the lives of his peers, it doesn't appear to be an issue, yet you still believe his sexuality should have been a factor. I already told you, we're not concerned with the position of the BSA as we already know their position on the matter and their legal rights, we're concerned with your position. Do you think him being gays should have been a factor to him earning that award personally? If you had your own boyscouts, would you enforce the same law against gays as they would??
Originally posted by JohnPhoenix
I would have two programs, with each criteria. I believe that is the most fair.
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by Juggernog
Originally posted by Annee
Then why is the Secret 11 hiding?
I really dont know annee, I havent been following this thread that closely, I just thought I would add my opinion.
Im not looking for an argument or debate.
thanks
OK. I just generally focus on a single main issue.
Years ago it was East Timor. Currently it is the gay issue and Equality.
So - - I do follow all aspects of it - - from as many sources as I can.
Originally posted by Juggernog
I tend to bounce around issues but I usually focus on conspiracy and "police state" type threads...
Anyway, Ive seen your posts in different threads and I maybe dont agree with alot of them, you do make some decent points "occasionally"
Peace
Originally posted by JohnPhoenix
I believe in the organizations right to set their own terms.
And I did already answer your question.
Originally posted by Annee
It is not fair. It is divisive and discriminatory.
Do you support separate drinking fountains for Whites and Blacks too?
Originally posted by alfa1
Originally posted by Annee
It is not fair. It is divisive and discriminatory.
Do you support separate drinking fountains for Whites and Blacks too?
In the example we're discussing, the "discrimination" is entirely up to the person who wishes to sign up to it.
But if some people had to go out of their way to voluntarily sign up to an organisation, knowing in advance that the drinking fountains were separate, and being able to walk away from this situation any time they chose, then I think it is perfectly all right.
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by otherpotato
If he states he is gay and admits he doesn't believe in god . .
He never said he did not believe in god. He does believe in a higher power.
The BSA is manipulating "Duty to God" as not being gay.
Originally posted by otherpotato
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by otherpotato
If he states he is gay and admits he doesn't believe in god . .
He never said he did not believe in god. He does believe in a higher power.
The BSA is manipulating "Duty to God" as not being gay.
I thought I read he wouldn't accept the "Duty to God" part either? I of course believe belief in a higher power is the same thing but I thought that was part of the issue.