Originally posted by Southern Guardian
reply to post by JohnPhoenix
You didn't answer my question.
I'm not concerned about the organizations position on the matter or their legal rights. My question was directed at your personal view of this. Do you
believe that this boys sexuality should be a factor in him receiving that award, or does his sexuality not concern you? That scout leader evidently
made his choice based in part over his personal views, it was not just merely that of the boyscouts. What is your personal position? Do you feel the
discrimmination over this boys sexuality is justified? Does him being gay affect you or the lives of his peers?
"Does him being gay affect you or the lives of his peers? "
I have actually tried to answer all your points several times. The boy's choice doesn't effect me personally, no ( If I were his scout leader, that
would depend on their relationship.. did the scout leader even like the boy, were they friends.. etc.. we have no idea why the scout leader threw him
under the bus when he could have just ignored the issue like other scout leaders have) for his peers.. I am not them. It may be that his choice does
effect some of his peers.
Do you feel the discrimmination over this boys sexuality is justified?
Thats a trick question. The boy was Not discriminated against IMO. If the boy understood that his belief in God also had to mean he must not be gay or
atheist, and the boy willingly choose to ignore those rules then the Boy is first and foremost, at fault for breaking the rules and thus voided any
awards or promotions such as the Eagle Scout Badge, They could have just kicked out the kid outright, instead, they let the kid stay. That was very
admirable of them.
That scout leader evidently made his choice based in part over his personal views, it was not just merely that of the boyscouts.
We don't know if your above statement is true. You are making an assumption with no facts - nevertheless, I believe his personal feelings must have
played a factor - even if it's just to the point where he felt strongly about upholding the statutes of the BSA.
Do you believe that this boys sexuality should be a factor in him receiving that award, or does his sexuality not concern you?
Yes. I believe it should be a factor because the BSA openly states they do not allow gay or atheist people in their organization. You can't join any
group, not follow their rules, and expect to be treated as if you do. That's ignorant.
If your asking if I were to re-make the Scouts would I then allow Gays and Atheists? I think it's great that there is an organization that sets such
high moral and ethical standards. I would do exactly what the Scouts do do now - they have a program with these standards - And they have a program
where gays and atheists Are indeed welcome. They cater to both types of groups which I think is smart.
I have answered your questions again, and my answers mirror what i've already said. Does that work for you??
edit on 7-10-2012 by JohnPhoenix because: sp