It seemed to me throughout the course of the debate that the president had somewhere to be. He had an answer to everything, he laid out his points effectively, it just seemed like he was preoccupied. Like it was his anniversary or something.

Meanwhile Romney looked as if he came into the debate with an attitude of "I don't give a ###t brah. I got nowhere to be tonight. Lets do this."

Personally I think Obama's answers made more sense, but after repeating himself he kinda wanted to move things along, to get out of there. And that attitude sapped strength from his points.

Romney won the 1st debate because he stepped up to the plate. Obama lost because he wanted to go home.

Yay baseball analogies.

I'm an unaffiliated voter, and often hesitant to get in the middle of the R v D polarization thing.

I honestly thought Romney seemed way too attacking - I know people often like that, but to me he was in full CEO "you will listen to me" mode, while trying to say how much he cares for my family - his edges were too sharp for me to feel comforted by his insistence that he had my best interests at heart. Maybe that scores points with people - they are looking for a fight? For aggression? One person's "confidence" is another person's "Geez, did you wipe you boots off before tromping all over the moderator?"

Obama is taking notes and letting this one go - he is a fourth quarter press competitor. He was letting Romney get a few shots in and not challenging him on some obvious things, letting him have his "zingers," which Romney gleefully jabbed with. On one hand Obama came off as "debate rusty" and struggled to find his words, on the other, he came off as the reserved, more polite, respectful person. I don't like people being overly aggressive in general, stepping over fair-play, pretending the referee is there for show and not to be respected - can you imagine treating the Mods here at ATS like that? I guess, for me, Romney comes off as a bit of a jerk - though again, there are folks who will say he "won" because of the same things that make me cringe and feel threatened (yes, threatened). The president seemed passive, taking hits, but I would seriously not count him out. I think he was playing strategy, and it frustrated him to have to let Romney get his swings in. Then again, he could just be off his game as a candidate. As to fact-checking, the truth will out...I hope.

peace,
AB

"You only pick losers."

Most memorable line spoken tonight.
This could get very ugly, I hope.

Originally posted by AboveBoard
I'm an unaffiliated voter, and often hesitant to get in the middle of the R v D polarization thing.

I honestly thought Romney seemed way too attacking - I know people often like that, but to me he was in full CEO "you will listen to me" mode, while trying to say how much he cares for my family - his edges were too sharp for me to feel comforted by his insistence that he had my best interests at heart. Maybe that scores points with people - they are looking for a fight? For aggression? One person's "confidence" is another person's "Geez, did you wipe you boots off before tromping all over the moderator?"

Obama is taking notes and letting this one go - he is a fourth quarter press competitor. He was letting Romney get a few shots in and not challenging him on some obvious things, letting him have his "zingers," which Romney gleefully jabbed with. On one hand Obama came off as "debate rusty" and struggled to find his words, on the other, he came off as the reserved, more polite, respectful person. I don't like people being overly aggressive in general, stepping over fair-play, pretending the referee is there for show and not to be respected - can you imagine treating the Mods here at ATS like that? I guess, for me, Romney comes off as a bit of a jerk - though again, there are folks who will say he "won" because of the same things that make me cringe and feel threatened (yes, threatened). The president seemed passive, taking hits, but I would seriously not count him out. I think he was playing strategy, and it frustrated him to have to let Romney get his swings in. Then again, he could just be off his game as a candidate. As to fact-checking, the truth will out...I hope.

peace,
AB

Just stop the madness everyone. Why aren't the majority of people demanding more from our president! This is B.S Please can someone tell me what Obama has done that warrents a second term

Can anyone on here tell me why Obama deserves a second term? What has he done? I have asked this repeatedly and no one can give me an answer

I thought Obama looked like he was finding it hard to explain his past four years. I thought Romney looked more confident. And I continue to think that were all screwed no matter who you vote for. Its purely there to make you think that one of the two can fix the mess were in. Where in reality they get paid by the same boss and they try to do a good job of making it seem like thats you!

As far as the debate goes, Romney definitely delivered better without actually saying anything.
It was basically a very well rehersed "I'll do everything that Obama is not doing" practiced to perfection.

However, for many of us he has already shown himself for what he is, a wolf in sheeps clothing.
I doubt this debate will change many peoples minds but it was definitely his night.

Originally posted by BrieBird
Can anyone on here tell me why Obama deserves a second term? What has he done? I have asked this repeatedly and no one can give me an answer

edit on 3-10-2012 by BrieBird because: (no reason given)

I don't think Obama desrves a second term and more than Mitt deserves a first term.

Originally posted by TheBeatMasta
What are your comments, and views on the matter?

Obama stank. Romney did a fantastic job.
And I'm sure the people at MSNBC are all crying and having temper tantrums ....

Its amazing people will change their minds about a person just from a debate. Ok Romney was better tonight than Obama.

But should voters overlook what Romney says in private ( what he really thinks?) He also is a tax cheat in my opinion.

I bet you a million dollars if President Romney got elected. He wouldn't do anything to change this country, he will make the middle class poorer and rich will be much better off.

Originally posted by BrieBird

Originally posted by AboveBoard
I'm an unaffiliated voter, and often hesitant to get in the middle of the R v D polarization thing.

I honestly thought Romney seemed way too attacking - I know people often like that, but to me he was in full CEO "you will listen to me" mode, while trying to say how much he cares for my family - his edges were too sharp for me to feel comforted by his insistence that he had my best interests at heart. Maybe that scores points with people - they are looking for a fight? For aggression? One person's "confidence" is another person's "Geez, did you wipe you boots off before tromping all over the moderator?"

Obama is taking notes and letting this one go - he is a fourth quarter press competitor. He was letting Romney get a few shots in and not challenging him on some obvious things, letting him have his "zingers," which Romney gleefully jabbed with. On one hand Obama came off as "debate rusty" and struggled to find his words, on the other, he came off as the reserved, more polite, respectful person. I don't like people being overly aggressive in general, stepping over fair-play, pretending the referee is there for show and not to be respected - can you imagine treating the Mods here at ATS like that? I guess, for me, Romney comes off as a bit of a jerk - though again, there are folks who will say he "won" because of the same things that make me cringe and feel threatened (yes, threatened). The president seemed passive, taking hits, but I would seriously not count him out. I think he was playing strategy, and it frustrated him to have to let Romney get his swings in. Then again, he could just be off his game as a candidate. As to fact-checking, the truth will out...I hope.

peace,
AB

Just stop the madness everyone. Why aren't the majority of people demanding more from our president! This is B.S Please can someone tell me what Obama has done that warrents a second term

Madness? Why are you using my opinions for this appeal to "stop the madness?" My thoughts/feelings about the debate are BS? Romney making the "red flags of fear" dance along my spine isn't BS to me; I tend to respect my gut feelings, as well as the time and effort I put into reading and understanding policy issues. I would agree that sitting around discussing the debate like a tennis or boxing match isn't conducive to solving the issues of our country, if that's what you mean by BS. I gather you are not an Obama supporter. I'm not going to engage in a debate with you over that; I don't like debates, and really what could anyone say to change your opinion? More importantly, why do you want me to engage with you that way? I reason things out on my own and make my decisions privately - hence the "unaffiliated voter" status.

I will say that one of my personal reasons is that I have a first hand understanding of disabled and medically fragile children, the Medicaid system and how it effects people's daily lives, not just as numbers on paper. I'm also very familiar with health care costs. Romney said recently that we do have health care for uninsured folks - they can go to the ER and get care. Hmmm. And if they have a chronic condition as opposed to an acute? If they have a life-long disability? A degenerative disease? Dementia? If they need an organ transplant? Cancer treatment? They don't do that in the ER. I have private insurance. I worked for an insurance company. I know that they want money for their products, and will sell you as far up the river as they can to get it, while making you think they care. They don't care. They don't pay for as much as they possibly can get away with - it's called outsourcing expenses, which means providers and individuals pay for more and more while they make more and more. They are like credit card companies in that they love fine print and making profits, and can send you a cold slap in the face with the words "denial of coverage" without thinking twice about it. It's just business, after all. Romney is a good businessman. He knows how to cut costs like a businessman. How do businesses cut costs? They cut out benefits for their workers, among other "streamlining" activities. Everything but the CEO's pay and the "shareholders" cut, the "owners" - the people at the top. Who is investing in Romney? That is in part why he scares me. And what is the "business" of the country? Is it not "We The People?"

Sorry you didn't like my post, BrieBird. I can't please everyone - just throwing in my honest two cents like everyone else...

peace,
AB