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Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by schuyler
If you take it so personally, I apologize: but I have my right to an opinion just as much as you do. and in all honesty, I think the humor approach is much more reliable than even ATTEMPTING to start a serious thread on the topic, because that's just inviting all manner of uncouth replies. Allow people to have fun with it, because they're going to angle it in that direction to matter what. Beat them to the punch, and then there's no reason to be upset.
There's a difference between making jokes on a serious thread, and being serious on a joke thread. It's called an "insurance policy".
Originally posted by GeisterFahrer
No, the dead cannot participate on ATS because they are .... dead. I don't think it has anything to do with discrimination or prejudice or anything like that. Perhaps you can notify the site owner and ask him to make this website more "dead friendly" just in case it might be an issue of discrimination.
Originally posted by schuyler
The idea is intriguing and has been tried. I think you have to take the idea at face value to discuss it. In other words, jokes notwithstanding, suspend your disbelief. What would it take? How would it work? What are the technical issues? What are the social issues?
Who would even want to communicate? As it was explained to me once, if you woke up from a dream, would you want to tell the dream that’s what it was? Think about it. You die having believed X would happen, and many of us believe nothing will, and suddenly you find yourself in the most wonderful adventure of your “life.” Would you actually be compelled to go through the hassle of communicating with what is now the “other” realm when you now realize all those folks will find out what it’s all about soon enough?
You might just wash your hands of the whole thing and spend your time exploring the new realm. What difference would it make? And if it were very difficult, it would compete for your time. Would you rather study new stuff or hassle with a situation that no longer matters much to you?
It may seem like it would be trivial to create the very small amount of energy it takes to produce a character on a screen, well within the nebulous powers of the other side. But it’s a lot more complex than that beneath the hood. In order to get a simple space to appear on the screen, for example, the internal computer chips must produce a hexadecimal “20” (“32” in decimal) or, in binary it’s: 00010100. If you are going to get a computer to work internally, you need to know those numbering systems to make those translations. It’s not just a matter of pressing the space bar on the keyboard. To use a computer as a “medium” may provide insurmountable obstacles to any but the most technically inclined. And the most technically inclined may be the least interested in dealing with it.
I myself have even built a “Spiricom” device. Some of you may know of George Meek and the Spiricom device made from HAM radio parts. IN THEORY he had discussions with a dead electrical engineer named George Mueller (a perfect dead candidate). Of course this has engendered a great deal of criticism and skepticism. Be that as it may, I built one anyway using contemporary technology. Carrier tones, for example, were generate by software rather than customized hardware. In any event, I could not get it to work. Then again, I’m impatient and did not wish to listen to these tones for any length of time. A complete accounting of what I did is here: www.abovetopsecret.com...
Basically we’d be in a John Titor kind of situation. We’d have people who absolutely would believe it and absolutely would not. Plus a lot of people would ask constant questions. Personally, as a dead person I wouldn’t want to put forth the effort in a public scenario. Now, in a private scenario where I was attempting to contact a loved one, for example, that might be a different situation.
So in theory this is a great idea. Practically speaking it has its difficulties.
Say what? I'm taking it seriously, period. It's not for "fun." It's not a joke, nor do I get the impression OP considered it as such. That's not to say that people are not amused, but I suggest starting something in the jokes forum to further your hilarity. The bottom line is that you are the one who is off topic.