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Originally posted by campanionator
Obama took office with that 10% and has brought it down to 8.1% thus far.
When the economy fully rebounds in the next few years, Obama is gonna look real good
to historians.
The August unemployment rate was reported Friday as 8.1 percent — though the real unemployment number that isn't regularly reported is almost two times higher than that, 14.7 percent.
The bleak numbers come in a U.S. Department of Labor report that was released Friday, an indictment of the president's inability to get Americans back to work.
The early news coverage Friday reported that the unemployment rate fell from 8.3 to 8.1 percent, with headlines suggesting it wasn't all that bad, maybe even a slight positive for the president. On the car radio as I drove to work, I heard the bad news tossed together with what the Republicans said, making it all seem like just more political bickering.
It wasn't all that bad. It was worse.
The reason the unemployment fell to 8.1 percent was that 368,000 Americans had given up looking for work, bringing the total number of those not in the labor force to 88.9 million people. So the 8.1 percent figure would have been higher if those 368,800 hadn't finally quit on finding a job.
Think on that. They gave up or it would have been worse.
Originally posted by Golf66
Originally posted by campanionator
Obama took office with that 10% and has brought it down to 8.1% thus far.
When the economy fully rebounds in the next few years, Obama is gonna look real good
to historians.
Look around you - do you see more people working or less? I see less and less working and more on assistance... Great signs. The real number is about 15%.
Chicago Tribune
The August unemployment rate was reported Friday as 8.1 percent — though the real unemployment number that isn't regularly reported is almost two times higher than that, 14.7 percent.
The bleak numbers come in a U.S. Department of Labor report that was released Friday, an indictment of the president's inability to get Americans back to work.
The early news coverage Friday reported that the unemployment rate fell from 8.3 to 8.1 percent, with headlines suggesting it wasn't all that bad, maybe even a slight positive for the president. On the car radio as I drove to work, I heard the bad news tossed together with what the Republicans said, making it all seem like just more political bickering.
It wasn't all that bad. It was worse.
The reason the unemployment fell to 8.1 percent was that 368,000 Americans had given up looking for work, bringing the total number of those not in the labor force to 88.9 million people. So the 8.1 percent figure would have been higher if those 368,800 hadn't finally quit on finding a job.
Think on that. They gave up or it would have been worse.
Let me know when the OP creates a thread "criticizing" Obama, and his tactics.
www.nytimes.com...
The policy paper acknowledges that it is hard to know what would be different had Mr. Bush’s interrogation policy continued. But it argues that Mr. Obama’s approach has “hampered (or will hamper) the fight against terrorism” by forbidding techniques “that we should feel, as a nation, that we have a right to use against our enemies.”
Uncle Barry is not as innocent as he (or his media worshipers) would have your believe.
Do we ALL hold hands together, and sing kumbaya, because we agree? Dance around the fire, in unison?
WHY is this an issue NOW, for those who obviously and willingly ignore the other Elephant in the room?
Originally posted by sonnny1
WHY is this an issue NOW, for those who obviously and willingly ignore the other Elephant in the room?
Originally posted by longlostbrother
Waterboarding generated more bad data than good under Bush.
Which means it did NOT work.
On top of that ,most of the GOOD info came from good old fashioned interrogation techniques.
Originally posted by Xtrozero
Originally posted by longlostbrother
Waterboarding generated more bad data than good under Bush.
Which means it did NOT work.
On top of that ,most of the GOOD info came from good old fashioned interrogation techniques.
You say this like you were there....lol
All factual....
Well... a good friend of mine is a top polygrapher that was there working and he suggests it was very effective. I think I'll believe my friend over you...just saying
Originally posted by Xtrozero
You say this like you were there....lol
All factual....
Well... a good friend of mine is a top polygrapher that was there working and he suggests it was very effective. I think I'll believe my friend over you...just saying
Originally posted by wascurious
Even polygraphs are not effective so what the hell does your friend know?
Originally posted by Spiramirabilis
I read your entire post - not sure what you're saying exactly. Pro torture? Against torture?
Originally posted by Spiramirabilis
This is the sort of thing people say when they want to appear knowledgeable and wise
Personally, having been both subjected to and having employed most of the methods mentioned in this thread in both training and or real world operations I consider myself more informed than most on the topic.
Originally posted by Golf66
Also, I personally hold him responsible for getting a good many more men killed in Afghanistan than is necessary with his stupid ROE, apology tours and program of "Muslim engagement or outreach".
Originally posted by Spiramirabilis
Since we know what you think torture isn't - I'd be interested to know what you think torture is
Originally posted by Spiramirabilis
Also, going by your own standards - have you been tortured - or interrogated?
Originally posted by Spiramirabilis
You know what Golf66? I'm going to thank you for an honest reply and let it go[
What a silly woman I am - thinking I could have an opinion about torture
I still do you know - have an opinion...
Originally posted by Spiramirabilis
I'm glad you weren't really tortured Golf66
Originally posted by Spiramirabilis
My heart bleeds for those that have been
Torture should not be part of a civilised society