Originally posted by ancientthunder
reply to post by muzzleflash
There are no provisions within the T+C that prevent us from actually discussing our own individual points of view and arguing them in a proper debate
one question where are we limited to do what you say above? is there one special place? Or are we able to do that in a thread ? just looking for some
clarity from someone who seems to have the experience and knows. I have probably just broken T & C as this doesn't really directly fit with the op.
So if I have Sorry! the line is thin ...
It appears we are only limited by the agreement we made, which entails the discretion of the ownership of the website. Special places have been
designated by the organization of various forums, etc.
One important rule (among many) that lies entirely upon the discretion of the ownership, is the theory of "On Topic Discussion", which was actually
created to prevent derailment of said topic.
We are entirely within the bounds of a topic if the information we present, question, or discuss, is pertinent to the outlying scope of the topic
For example, the discussion of what types of agreements we adhere to pertains to this particular thread topic directly and indirectly, as conduct is
the ultimate foundation of the problems that the OP, Heff, has stated. He has been wronged by misconduct not of his own doing, as others have made
seemingly unfounded accusations against him personally to smear his character in attempt to dishonor his personal opinions and philosophies through
The T+C protect him, just as they protect any of us, and as it protects the ownership of the website from unreasonable liability which is explicitly
presented through notification we all have open access to.
There are many topics that are believed to be off-limits, however the limits have been defined within what appears are completely reasonable borders.
Some topics such as the 'War on Drugs', are extremely difficult to handle as a result of all of the contracts we have implied consent or directly
assented to, including common law and statutory laws (which are available for everyone to read).
If one exercises eloquence, wit, strategic positioning, and applies the proper terminology and avoids breaking any aspect of the T+C, the ATS
administration have proven to me that they will not dishonor such and instead would uphold and honor it, as it would stand as testament to the type of
civilized conduct and discourse that is expected and requested of everyone party to the topic.
Note, that the moderation and administration here reserves the right to even remove my posts here, or anywhere, and I agree to this condition, and it
can be based entirely on their opinion. However, I have never seen or witnessed such conduct on their behalf, and I will vouch they apply wisdom and
stick to procedure as close as possible. But like all of us, they have limits, pushing, harassing, insulting, or intimidating them will win no points,
and I wouldn't be surprised or offended to find such a uncivilized person banned from posting as a result.
The bar must be raised yet again, as ignorance is explicitly denied in these quarters.