Originally posted by GafferUK1981
reply to post by MamaJ
What exactly is observable?
We know evolution is how we came to be not creationism. Evolution is observable, there is nothing in this world you can look at and say 'it is only
possible that god did that'.
You remind me of my uncle, he also tries to prove there is a god using philosophy, philosophy is all about thinking, you can dream up whatever you
like but it doesn't make it true.
Surely if god is so powerful and capable of creating the universe let alone our planet there would be evidence but there is absolutely nothing.
Science has proved the Bible to be wrong, throw it in the bin it's an old pointless book. It's no good for mankind, it causes more problems than the
world can cope with.
Everything you see!!!!
God to me........ In my view....... Is the Eternal Thinker whereas we observe the manifestation of the Eternal Thinker ( God) in his creation as an
observable force expressing, he ce we have an Expressionable Universe, or all that is we can see and all that we cannot see. There is a seen and
unseen. There is a cause and effect.
Whether an object is alive or not, it emits light/ electromagnetic radiation. It's expressive, regardless.
All we can see then could be termed Nous. We observe the good order of nature and know the nature is within all of creation. We also understand nature
evolves and so yes, evolution has been implemented but I can assure you we are not from apes. Before man was completely dense in matter and before the
split of the " atom/ Adam" , man did have sexual pleasures with animals, hence the desires of the material overcame their spirit to the homo sapien we
see today who just so happens to be entangled in matter. We can then take note, man in all his glory has fallen once again as he continues to go AWAY
from the order of nature and matter is his God.
The abuse of the power given to man is like a little child who has been given a gun with it cocked and loaded.
Notice our history, each and every time a civilization rises he abuses his god given abilities and or knowledge.
We have death and we have knowledge, so the story goes, and this story is backed up with evidence.
What's knowledge done for us again? Brought our own demise as we were not ready and man is still not ready.
The story continues......
Man with his power of knowledge will again have to have rebirth time and time again, until he gets it! The light bulb will ding and his heart will
sing and rejoice in the fact his spirit and flesh have overcome the power of ignorance!
Once the process of rebirth ends the earth and it's inhabitants will transform into grown and evolved spirit/ flesh with their mind complete. The soul
will then have life without the matter and or material strangling his existence.
Matter and light interacting on many levels.
It is possible there was a plan before the material universe manifested into what we see today.
Philosophy is a beautiful thing my friend! It has been the creator of mathematics, SCIENCE, and everything else. In order to create one has to think
and dream, doesn't he?
The difference in the philosophies is one has knowledge and one doesn't.
If you took all the knowledge in from everywhere all the time, you may know more than the average man I would say. Ignorance can be bliss...... Once
you know things, you cannot unlearn them.
In the same tone though knowledge once known can make a beautiful melody sing in the heart and soul.
Balance of power and doing good for the fellow man is what's needed. Today we see the abuse of power, don't we?
The Bible is not something I have allowed the church to teach me.
I consider my being to hold no religion, but all of them. All who have come before me had truth. They are all right, in their own right and should be
Science is a philosophy for me. I have a scientific mind believe it or not and love all aspects of it even though it, itself, denies some that arose
before it ever came into existence.
In regards to being an atheist, I applaud anyone who can be as bold as the atheist to actually denounce a God before he sees God. I have always had a
sense of God within, so for me, I cannot be without a creator. The creation ( me ) observes I HAD to be created.
The Universe is in all it's mysteries, solvable, and in my mind I've solved many mysteries and believe to know what dark energy and dark matter is.
As above, so below. This speaks for itself and really does not require an explanation.
The philosophers of our times past came with a purpose and knew so much more than we do today.
Science, if not divided and so political like the religions...... Would be so more advance if they included theories from the metaphysical community
and philosophers of times past and today. This can also be said for all religions.
The Bible has a lot of power in its own right for it was inspired by the works of the many bodies/ same soul of Jesus
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